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No Lives Matter vs All Lives Matter

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I have signatures turned off, so I had to hunt for it.

Does “white” usually come first in lists of colors, that you might reel off, or only when it’s about people?

I've already made my sarcastic apology to those offended by that color being in the list of lives that matter. Not much more to say on the matter.
 
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I've already made my sarcastic apology to those offended by that color being in the list of lives that matter. Not much more to say on the matter.
Fare thee well, then.
 
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Stating that all lives matter is hardly an attack, unless there are some lives you believe don't matter. I sure hope that's not the case.

Again the slogan is fine, it's that people who use that slogan use it as an attack and sometimes physically attack people while yelling it. You associate yourself with such people when you use their slogans and talking points and then complain when it's pointed out that you do that.
 
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Again the slogan is fine, it's that people who use that slogan use it as an attack and sometimes physically attack people while yelling it. You associate yourself with such people when you use their slogans and talking points and then complain when it's pointed out that you do that.

Would it make you feel any better if I used the phrase Black lives matter, thereby associating myself with those who use that as an attack against white people, police officers, and random people in cars whose path they block on the streets before pulling the driver out and beating them with bricks, not to mention those who spent last year burning down businesses and police stations?
 
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Would it make you feel any better if I used the phrase Black lives matter, thereby associating myself with those who use that as an attack against white people, police officers, and random people in cars whose path they block on the streets before pulling the driver out and beating them with bricks, not to mention those who spent last year burning down businesses and police stations?

So you envision one group to be violent so you associate yourself with another violent group? How does that make anything better for anyone?
 
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So you envision one group to be violent so you associate yourself with another violent group? How does that make anything better for anyone?

I notice you don't answer questions when someone asks you one. Do you believe I'm obligated to keep answering yours when you dismiss the questions I ask you?
Learn what it means to have a discussion.
 
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I notice you don't answer questions when someone asks you one. Do you believe I'm obligated to keep answering yours when you dismiss the questions I ask you?
Learn what it means to have a discussion.

No you're not obligated but it is telling that you keep avoiding questions that probe your association with violent white supremacy.
 
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It's such a funny coincidence that an innocuous phrase like "Black Lives Matter" is so upsetting to some fragile white folks.
Ringo
 
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It's such a funny coincidence that an innocuous phrase like "Black Lives Matter" is so upsetting to some fragile white folks.
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Right? The amount of vitriole of these 3 words seems....unnecessary (to sya the least).
 
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We are all equally deserving of human rights by the sheer fact of being human. In that respect, all lives do matter, for life itself is of importance. Each person must be considered, and thus the collectivist rhetoric must be countered. We are all different. There is no greater minority than the individual.
 
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We are all equally deserving of human rights by the sheer fact of being human. In that respect, all lives do matter, for life itself is of importance. Each person must be considered, and thus the collectivist rhetoric must be countered. We are all different. There is no greater minority than the individual.
So you haven't listened to their reasoning for why they named their movement as they did.
 
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So you haven't listened to their reasoning for why they named their movement as they did.

"they" are self-labelled marxists.

I have no issue at all with the phrase or slogan. Black lives DO matter. I've got high issue with the movement, especially since their donation medium is ActBlue and the aim and goal is socialism via equity. Can't have true equity without legal inequalities.
 
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Marxism is incompatible with the Constitution, the notion of liberty, and nearly every ideal this country was founded on.
Why is it all or nothing?
Do marxists not hold rights under the Constitution?
 
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Why is it all or nothing?
Do marxists not hold rights under the Constitution?

What I am saying is, that in order to implement Marxism in America, you will need to either simply ignore or outright abolish the Constitution. It seems the former is the current modus operandi for those wishing to implement.
 
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