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Do we humans disprove evolution?

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There are thousands of versions of deities each with many believers who believe that they were blessed by being born to true believers.


There are many bad people in the world, there are also many good people in the world. Consider yourself blessed that you wish to live morally.
It's one of the things that led me to Christ. I could not live up to my own standards. Now I don't have to try. Jesus lives in me and He has no trouble meeting the highest standard, which is God's.
 
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Man's relation to God.
You are not being faulted for your relationship to a deity as you understand that deity.

(I define ethics as man's relation to man.)This from a man who abandoned his wife and child?Then you should REALLY like this one:
You are excellent at finding faults of other religions. How about the massive child abuse among the many Christian denominations?

Remember what Jesus said:
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
 
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Buddhism: If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him.
Christianity: Thou shalt not kill.
It's so funny that somebody who fetishises the bible doesn't understand what killing the Buddha means.
 
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Buddhism: If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him.
Christianity: Thou shalt not kill.
When you criticize something you do not understand you display your ignorance.

"If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him." Means that those who think they've found all the answers in any religion need to start questioning.
 
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How about the massive child abuse among the many Christian denominations?
First of all, in the eyes of the law, child abuse and child abandonment are two different things.

Second of all, sin does not nullify the Cross. We are sinners saved by grace.

Thirdly, you call it hypocrisy, yet you venerated Buddhism in Post 133, but said nothing about its founder being a hypocrite.

What gives here, right thinker?
 
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It's so funny that somebody who fetishises the bible doesn't understand what killing the Buddha means.
You better hope Buddhists do though. One of them might set himself on ... oh, wait ... nevermind.
 
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When you criticize something you do not understand you display your ignorance.
What if you venerate something you think you understand?
Frank Robert said:
"If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him." Means that those who think they've found all the answers in any religion need to start questioning.
That's a doosey of a way to state it.
 
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The Christian definition of faith is not what most people think. It is a result of receiving spiritual truth. For that you need spiritual eyesight and spiritual ears. Faith is based on something concrete, which is God's word. Faith is central to Christianity. In this sense, seeing is believing. The problem with the sceptics is that they do not have spiritual eyes and ears so they falsely reject the truth.

You are simply confirming what I said with
slightly different words.
 
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First of all, in the eyes of the law, child abuse and child abandonment are two different things.
As I said before you have an excellent knack of criticizing things that you do not understand.

Second of all, sin does not nullify the Cross. We are sinners saved by grace.
Sin is a religious construct and a way of comprehending morality via negatives. It it works for you then it is a good for you. I am not trying to change your mind, I am only pointing out that there are other good alternatives.

Thirdly, you call it hypocrisy, yet you venerated Buddhism in Post 133, but said nothing about its founder being a hypocrite.
There is no veneration in Buddhism. I merely indicated that Buddhism is a good moral compass. Speaking highly of a philosophy is not veneration for the founder. If you have a gripe against the Buddha let's hear it, but first understand the basics before you do.

There is an story of a young Buddhist monk who after reading the Bible brought it to his master. Upon reading the Bible the master said that Jesus was an enlightened being.

What gives here, right thinker?
Once again you are criticizing things that you have zero understanding of. Try reading introductory material on things you like to criticize before you criticize them.
 
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What if you venerate something you think you understand?That's a doosey of a way to state it.
It is not difficult for the average person to understand that there are zero idols in Buddhism. Again read introductory material before criticizing things that you have zero knowledge about.
 
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Try reading introductory material on things you like to criticize before you criticize them.
Like this one?

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As I said before you have an excellent knack of criticizing things that you do not understand.


Sin is a religious construct and a way of comprehending morality via negatives. It it works for you then it is a good for you. I am not trying to change your mind, I am only pointing out that there are other good alternatives.


There is no veneration in Buddhism. I merely indicated that Buddhism is a good moral compass. Speaking highly of a philosophy is not veneration for the founder. If you have a gripe against the Buddha let's hear it, but first understand the basics before you do.

There is an story of a young Buddhist monk who after reading the Bible brought it to his master. Upon reading the Bible the master said that Jesus was an enlightened being.


Once again you are criticizing things that you have zero understanding of. Try reading introductory material on things you like to criticize before you criticize them.

Actually understanding evolution ruins every
argument the ignorant try to bring against it.

Same applies here.
 
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Nice try but an Christian overview of world religions is not introductory information on Buddhism. All it will do is to confirm your bias.
Try the The Buddhist Centre where you will be able to ask questions.
 
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Try the The Buddhist Centre where you will be able to ask questions.
I'll pass.

I've already made my points against Buddhist thought ... perhaps even overstepped my bounds somewhat.

But you're the one who brought it up in a discussion on morals.

If Buddhism teaches morals, I'm Genghis Khan.

Tantrism (sexual immorality), killing yourself (self-immolation), introspection -- all in the name of some vague eightfold path -- just doesn't cut it.

In short, I'm not willing to give up the Ten Commandments for some eightfold path.
 
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As I said you are excellent at criticizing and not making any sense.
None of my business, but do you have a college degree? Just wondering.
 
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I'll pass.
I've already made my points against Buddhist thought ... perhaps even overstepped my bounds somewhat.
I agree that you have made many uninformed points.
But you're the one who brought it up in a discussion on morals.
I was commenting on a previous post regarding morals. Pay attention.

If Buddhism teaches morals, I'm Genghis Khan.
Buddhism is a moral philosophy but you wouldn't know that.
I agree you are not Genghis Khan.

Tantrism (sexual immorality), killing yourself (self-immolation), introspection -- all in the name of some vague eightfold path -- just doesn't cut it.
That is what you have been taught. Buddhists would disagree.
In short, I'm not willing to give up the Ten Commandments for some eightfold path.
No one is asking you to give up the Ten Commandments. Buddhists believe that Christianity has some redeeming points.
 
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Grab that pole, give it a go. Surely you know how to correct the countries problems.
It's one thing to see some of the problems, but quite another to know how to fix them and the fixes that come to mind have already been rejected. Plus I don't have that kind of personality, and I generally don't like those kinds of people.
 
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None of my business, but do you have a college degree? Just wondering.
No problem. My graduate degrees are in psychology, my main work interests are addictions and mediation. At one time I was interested in modern psychoanalysis and had a supervisor who has done groundbreaking work on "evil."
 
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