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Maybe you can provide the scripture where it states the first day is the Sabbath or a Holy day. I already provided the scripture after Jesus rose where the Sabbath was still the commandment . The day never changed after Jesus rose. How confusing would it be to change it to the first day only to change it back again to the seventh when He comes. We do not have a God of confusion.

Also, I would be weary of putting words in God's mouth. He seemed pretty clear in my opinion. You might want to study up on all the scriptures regarding His Sabbath. I always wonder if we don't want to keep His Sabbath on this Earth, are you going to want to in Heaven because it says all will worship Him every Sabbath. Isaiah 66:23

God tells us 1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.

Keeping His Sabbath was meant as a blessing, nothing else. It was the
Pharisees who added extra rules to God's Sabbath and made it more of a legalized day, instead of a blessing. Which is why we have the second covenant where Gods laws are written in our hearts (we obey because we love Him) and through our actions (minds). The word legalism and Sabbath is Satan's way to discourage people from worshipping God on His true Holy Sabbath.

I provided you tons of Scripture in support of my position, which by the way recognizes the Sabbath and advocates worship on it as well as Sunday, and you ignored that scripture and also on some occasions ignored where I had said the sabbath should be honored. You didn’t engage with me at all. I found that frustrating. You also did not respond to my point about Mary Baker Eddy.
 
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I provided you tons of Scripture in support of my position, which by the way recognizes the Sabbath and advocates worship on it as well as Sunday, and you ignored that scripture and also on some occasions ignored where I had said the sabbath should be honored. You didn’t engage with me at all. I found that frustrating. You also did not respond to my point about Mary Baker Eddy.
Actually you did not provide scripture at all that shows anywhere in the Bible the first day is a Holy day. God said the seventh day Sabbath is THE Holy day- are you denying our Savior and Creator the right to define His Sabbath? The ONLY day in the Bible He deemed Holy. Also I don't know anything about Mary Baker Eddy.
 
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Actually you did not provide scripture at all that shows anywhere in the Bible the first day is a Holy day. God said the seventh day Sabbath is THE Holy day- are you denying our Savior and Creator the right to define His Sabbath? The ONLY day in the Bible He deemed Holy? Also don't know anything about Mary Baker Eddy.

Once again, I did not deny the Sabbath, or suggest it had been moved to another day, which proves you aren’t paying attention to my posts. And I provided scripture proving that Friday and Sunday are also of extreme holiness, and exegesis showing what it means that Sabbath is the day of rest (because on the Sabbath, our Lord rested in a tomb).
 
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Once again, I did not deny the Sabbath, or suggest it had been moved to another day, which proves you aren’t paying attention to my posts. And I provided scripture proving that Friday and Sunday are also of extreme holiness, and exegesis showing what it means that Sabbath is the day of rest (because on the Sabbath, our Lord rested in a tomb).
You have failed to provide any scripture stating that Friday and Sunday are Holy days. I provided the scripture multiple times where God said the seventh day is THE Sabbath and THE Holy day, meaning that is THE only day. Why are you trying to change Gods Words? You didn't provide scripture that contradicts God.

God explained His Sabbath and its more than a day of rest, while that is part of it. The first sentence in the verse is:

Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, This means the first day and the six day are working days- these are Gods Words- not mine

10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God.

In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Since you agree the Sabbath was not transferred are you keeping it Holy the way God commanded? It's not just a day of rest as you can clearly see written from our Creator and Savior.

I pray this help.
 
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Since you agree the Sabbath was not transferred are you keeping it Holy the way God commanded? It's not just a day of rest as you can clearly see written from our Creator and Savior.

Yes!
 
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It is actually a very simple question. Prior to the birth of Jesus Christ what relationship did Gentiles have to the Law given by God to His People, the nation of Israel, on Mount Sinai?
If they believe in God and wished to worship Him they were under the same Covenant as was given on Mt Sinai.
Lev 24:22 Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God.
 
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If they believe in God and wished to worship Him they were under the same Covenant as was given on Mt Sinai.
Lev 24:22 Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God.

Then, like Rahab, they were no longer Gentiles, but Jews, having entered into the Sinaitic covenant. However, what of the untold millions of Gentiles who had no association with the God of the Jews, much less the Sinaitic covenant. Were they in any manner affected by that covenant?
 
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Then, like Rahab, they were no longer Gentiles, but Jews, having entered into the Sinaitic covenant. However, what of the untold millions of Gentiles who had no association with the God of the Jews, much less the Sinaitic covenant. Were they in any manner affected by that covenant?


Yes even those who have not known of God will be Judge by the same standard. For HE will render to every man according to his deeds. To the man that doeth Evil, indignation and wrath, to he that worketh Good eternal Life. To the Jew first and also to the Gentile.
For there is no respect of persons with God. For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

Rom 2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
Rom 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
Rom 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
Rom 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Rom 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
Rom 2:10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
Rom 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
 
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Yes even those who have not known of God will be Judge by the same standard. For HE will render to every man according to his deeds. To the man that doeth Evil, indignation and wrath, to he that worketh Good eternal Life. To the Jew first and also to the Gentile.
For there is no respect of persons with God. For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

Rom 2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
Rom 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
Rom 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
Rom 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Rom 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
Rom 2:10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
Rom 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Excellent! At last someone has answered my question. The bottom line is that virtually everyone alive today as well as in the past will be cast into the Lake of Fire which burns forever and ever.
 
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Excellent! At last someone has answered my question. The bottom line is that virtually everyone alive today as well as in the past will be cast into the Lake of Fire which burns forever and ever.
Unless they come to Jesus. What else does Romans say.
 
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How was it possible for any Gentile to come to Jesus before Jesus came to us?

Was Abraham a Jew in your POV?
Was Noah a Jew in your POV?
Was Jonah sent to the Jewish city of Nineveh in your POV?
Was Enoch a Jew in your POV?
Was Abel a Jew in your POV?
 
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