Trump reportedly has told aides to refuse any payments to Giuliani

[KCfromNC]

Hmm, President Trump is not allowed on Twitter to provide a response.

Yeah, it is a shame that the President of the United States has zero ways to get information out to the public. You'd think that the White House might need someone to handle interactions with the press, maybe a secretary or something?

 

[KCfromNC]

George Papadopoulos

Also, I remember a guy on video asking for Russia to hack the e-mails of his campaign opponent. What's his name again? Kinda hard to remember - once someone's banned from social media it is like they never existed.

 

[mala]

Strange isn't it that this stupendously high bar of evidence is never applied to anyone else other than trump.
these people will believe a pizza parlor that has no basement has a pedophile infested basement long before they believe a man who has brazenly admitted to walking into teenagers dressing rooms to sneak a peak would do so.

 

[seeking.IAM]

Yeah, it is a shame that the President of the United States has zero ways to get information out to the public. You'd think that the White House might need someone to handle interactions with the press, maybe a secretary or something?

Remember back when President's used to hold press conferences? I think POTUS has a podium, a microphone, and a White House Press Corps just waiting to hear what he says. He has hardly been silenced. Of course, some of those questions might be kind of hard to answer.

 

[lasthero]

I appreciate your comments. Probably the biggest misunderstanding is about the hundreds of thousands of law-abiding Trump supporters who marched,

'Hundreds of thousands'? Where'd you get that number from?

[quote many of whom have marched in or attended numerous other peaceful events.[/quote]

Again, where are you getting these numbers?

Telling up the huge amount of pork in an over 5000 page bill would rile up most honest Americans.

Now you're trying to change the subject. That bill wasn't why all those people had gathered - they gathered there because of Trump's lies.

Would you ban any speech that mentions pork or wrongdoing?

I'm not saying Trump doesn't have a right to mislead his supporters. But having the right to free speech doesn't mean you can't suffer the consequences of what you say. I have the right to call my boss a demented, smelly imp, right to his face, and it's not illegal...but it's also not illegal for him to fire me for doing so.

In fact,the Capitol police had prior knowledge of an attack, and the situation had degraded so much that the National Guard was called in--before Trump had finished his speech![ What kind of patriotic Trump supporters travels to Washington D.C. to a Trump rally and then leaves before Trump has finished his speech? I know one of the Capitol police committed suicide, and I don't know why the Capitol police, warned of an attack, allowed in 150 or so people before closing the doors.

You're kind of rambling, now.

By this time Nancy Pelosi probably knows, but I don't know.

Why would she know? She's not in charge of the Capital police.

Trump telling them to march peacefully and patriotically is not inciting a riot, not one word was unacceptable

Not even the blatant lies about what was going on? Telling them that it was all up to Mike Pence, even though Pence was never going to do what he told them he could? Telling them to 'fight hard' and that 'they'd never get their country back with weakness'?

To the contrary, Pelosi, Maxine Waters, and other Democrats, including the vice-president to be, have made far more inflammatory comments.

Even if true, that doesn't have any bearing on the situation. If you're speeding on the highway and the police pull you over. pointing out that there were others going faster doesn't save you from getting a ticket.

Establishment politicians are afraid that because of information that might come out in the next 45 months Trump would win in an honest and fair election.

Seeing as how he just lost an 'honest and fair election', why would they be afraid of that? Heck, in any other country, he wouldn't have even won the first time. He couldn't even get Republicans to hold onto the Senate.

He's a loser.

We know that election logs in Michigan for the past election are missing--that's a felony.

Not sure what you're referring to.

 

[whatbogsends]

'Hundreds of thousands'? Where'd you get that number from?

Again, where are you getting these numbers?

When Trump claims that "thousands of Muslims were cheering on the rooftops in Jersey City as the towers fell" when the real number was maybe 5,

when Trump claims that "millions of illegals" voted in the 2016 election which cost him the popular vote, but failed to provide any evidence to support that claim,

when Trump claims that "i had the largest electoral college victory since Reagan", when his electoral college victory was less than that of Clinton, George W. Bush, and Obama (i.e. EVERY president since Reagan other than George H. W. Bush),

then turning a crowd of 40,000-60,000 into "hundreds of thousands" is fairly tame by comparison.

 

[wing2000]

"Trump has instructed aides not to pay Giuliani’s legal fees, two officials said, and has demanded that he personally approve any reimbursements for the expenses Giuliani incurred while traveling on the president’s behalf to challenge election results in key states. They said Trump has privately expressed concern with some of Giuliani’s moves and did not appreciate a demand from Giuliani for $20,000 a day in fees for his work attempting to overturn the election."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...95675a-55b6-11eb-a931-5b162d0d033d_story.html

 

[durangodawood]

Do you blame him, what did he get that he should feel the obligation to pay for?

Thats a good point. What did Trump get from all Giuliani's "work"? 4 Seasons landscape, drippy hair coloring, and that unbelievable drunk woman.

 

[Freodin]

Does this John Harwood name a source?

If he doesn't, he can always fall back on "Many people say..."
It's been enough for the highest circles. Or so many people have told me.

 

[cow451]

Per John Harwood, a White House correspondent, on Twitter: “Trump has instructed aides not to pay Giuliani’s legal fees, and has demanded that he personally approve any reimbursements for the expenses Giuliani incurred while traveling on the president’s behalf to challenge election results in key states.”

Priceless legal representation. Giuliani failed and losers don't get paid.

 

[cow451]

Hmm, President Trump is not allowed on Twitter to provide a response. Does this John Harwood name a source? There was just a story about Trump accepting responsibility for the attack at the Capitol based on anonymous source. These are the tactics of those who deceive. Our nation wasted three years about a Russian collusion conspiracy based upon an anonymous source. Quite the opposite of Americans who try to follow our Declaration and Constitution. Let's make the ballots and computer election records public and end this.

Let's ban Trump from public office and stop telling the fable about "massive" election fraud. I haven't heard Trump take any responsibility. Did you know that the President can make a speech and do so? Like.... he doesn't even need Twitter to do so.

 

[JackRT]

So if Trump does it that's OK for you to do it? It's OK to impeach a President without careful review and debate of the evidence? It's making a mockery of the Constitution, Trump said nothing to incite a riot, nothing like the inflammatory language of Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi and Cuomo. You and I know if he had the press would be playing the video since his whole speech was recorded. Hatred begets hatred, it's just an opportunity for real evil to get a firm grip on their followers. Quit the accusations, put all information out in the open. Let the cowards who make false accusations debate their opponents in a reasoned manner. Taking away people's speech is marching down the wrong avenue.

It is not making a mockery of the constitution. It is the words and actions of Trump which do that and provide more than enough reason for impeachment.

 

[wing2000]

....does this mean Rudy won't be defending Trump in the impeachment trial?

 

[lasthero]

Thats a good point. What did Trump get from all Giuliani's "work"? 4 Seasons landscape, drippy hair coloring, and that unbelievable drunk woman.

Honestly, what did Trump expect? Giuliani hadn’t practiced law for nearly two decades. His presidency is on the line, the most important cases in history, and he throws a clown at it.

Were I a Trump supporter, I’d be insulted.

 

[durangodawood]

Honestly, what did Trump expect? Giuliani hadn’t practiced law for nearly two decades. His presidency is on the line, the most important cases in history, and he throws a clown at it.

Were I a Trump supporter, I’d be insulted.

Well I think there were a bunch of other lawyers on hire to document and file those 60 or so cases. But for some reason they thought G would make a good front man.

 

[MIDutch]

And you've reviewed this documentation?

3500 law suits in the state of New York. I'm sure you can find reports of them.

 

[GreekOrthodox]

'Hundreds of thousands'? Where'd you get that number from?

[quote many of whom have marched in or attended numerous other peaceful events.

Again, where are you getting these numbers?
[/QUOTE]

Probably Sean Spicer, who reported the bigglyest inauguration crowd for Trump as well.

 

[cow451]

Well I think there were a bunch of other lawyers on hire to document and file those 60 or so cases. But for some reason they thought G would make a good front man.

No reputable law firm will work with Mr. Trump. Hence, Rudy, Lin, and the Kraken Legal team.

 

[tulc]

Well...to be fair he should have enough money to pay his lawyers since he's been raising money hand over fist from his supporters who think they're "helping to fight the steal" when what they're really doing is paying off Trumps debts and adding to his bottom line.
PolitiFact - What we know about Trump’s fundraising off the false claim of election fraud

• President Donald Trump and allied groups have aggressively sought to raise funds after the election, using legal challenges to Joe Biden’s victory in their pitches.

• Trump’s campaign and several allied groups have said they raised $207 million between Election Day and Nov. 23. The number is certainly higher by now, but hard numbers won’t be disclosed to the Federal Election Commission until Jan. 31.

• One of the groups that is not included in these figures, a leadership political action committee called Save America, reported that it had raised $570,000 during its first two weeks of existence, but a fuller accounting won’t be available until Jan. 31.

• Funds raised by Save America can be spent with many fewer restrictions than dollars raised by the other Trump-allied groups

Because as we all know: snake oil salesmen love really committed people, because they don't usually ask questions until long after the checks have cleared their banks!
tulc(grifters gonna grift)

 

[stevil]

So you have a large crowd of people who, for two months, have been fed lies about how the election was stolen for them, and are operating under the false assumption that this day could end in Trump's favor,

There is a reason why presidents that lose elections make a public concession speech as soon as possible. In a democratic system it is desired to have a peaceful transition of power.

Everything Trump has done since the election has led towards this violent insurrection. He has created a propaganda campaign full of lies, in order to deceive his followers, to convince them to donate to him over 250 million dollars, to convince to them to become his militia, to overthrow the 2020 election results. He has been hell bent in using his supporters to put pressure on Republican congresspeople, on secretary of state, on electors, on his VP to cheat this election.

Whipping up his supporters into an angry emotional state, calling them into action was just a manipulation to use them in order to circumvent democracy and to steal power.

Anyone with half a brain could see that such actions were dangerous, we all knew that violent white supremacist groups were excited and emboldened and ecstatic about Trump and this cause and the potential for a fight. Trump, and his crew of elites, and his media channel FoxNews were doing all they could to whip his supporters into a frenzy, to get them angry to get them to act.

And act, they did!