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Where do you stand on the 2020 election

Do you want a solid investigation into the election so truth can be shown either way?

  • I don't care, I just want to see my family for Christmas.

    Votes: 2 3.6%
  • Biden won, lets investigate and prove it.

    Votes: 11 20.0%
  • Trump won, lets investigate and prove it.

    Votes: 12 21.8%
  • This should be forensically investigated and the criminals imprisioned.

    Votes: 24 43.6%
  • Biden won, I don't want to investigate.

    Votes: 18 32.7%

  • Total voters
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Usually when someone makes claims.. they back it up with evidence.
Except Trump hasn’t done that in his cases. That’s why they keep getting thrown out.
 
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Ahhh! The famous "I only ignored all the proof I asked people to post, just so I could teach a valuable lesson!"? Well...I suspect you did indeed teach a lesson...probably not the one you think you taught, but still...a lesson none the less. :wave:
tulc(just got another cup of coffee) :oldthumbsup:
Take from it what you must. All voices must be heard. Every citizen deserves the respect to be heard and acknowledged. Ignoring the voices of 1000 courageous people and just pushing this bogus election through....is a death knell for freedom of speech, democracy and a blatant glaring light on the idea that the hate for Trump by what could be a minority is in their mind more important than the majority of the country. It must be investigated. Every legal vote counted. Every illegal vote rejected.. Let the majority rule. It is not "might is right". It is not the loudest and most violent win. It is democracy. Hope you enjoy your coffee.
 
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No, Biden won legitimately. Biden is not going to be found guilty of treason because he hasn’t committed treason. You need to learn the law.
Says you...Who are you? You have all the answers? You have some clairvoyant incite into the truth? You are the all seeing eye? You are so knowledgeable that what you say is truth? You are just a single person with no knowledge or right to state such things. I can say "time will tell" While you state unproven absolutes.
 
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The courts aren’t buying your videos. Trump lost cases yesterday in Arizona, Nevada, Michigan and Minnesota. In addition, the Wisconsin Supreme Court declined to hear a case. These videos you keep posting aren’t getting him anyplace.
Keep saying that. Shout it from your roof. It doesn't make it true or false. The mainstream media is now so deep into it that they must keep stating biased and bogus claims and ignoring and covering up the truth and the need for investigation. Nobody here should be afraid of a forensic surgical investigation....Unless they are afraid of the truth.
 
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Except Trump hasn’t done that in his cases. That’s why they keep getting thrown out.
Getting thrown out only helps the cause. They pray that they are thrown out...They could be bogged down in some corrupt state court...and not make it to SCOTUS.... That is the end game....That is why they need to be thrown out...move on with no roadblocks..Then the affidavits will be fully acknowledged.
 
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Getting thrown out only helps the cause. They pray that they are thrown out...They could be bogged down in some corrupt state court...and not make it to SCOTUS.... That is the end game....That is why they need to be thrown out...move on with no roadblocks..Then the affidavits will be fully acknowledged.
Ahhh! The famous "Pee Wee Herman defense"!
tulc(that one never gets old!) :ahah:
 
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The only fraud that I acknowledge is the 30,000 votes in Pennsylvania that the Post Office was ordered to deliver by the deadline and did not deliver until the next day.

I combine that, of course, with the Postmaster General's efforts to delay mail deliveries by destroying sorting machines, removing mail boxes, and other tactics. My own family suffered a $200 loss from these tactics when my husband's retirement business--online sales--was affected by a number of packages delivered after 5 weeks. I guess we were lucky, because other buyers had claims pending when the mail finally came through.

If we investigate anything, let's investigate the Post Office. After losing $200, I have absolutely no doubt that many votes never arrived on time.
 
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The courts aren’t buying your videos. Trump lost cases yesterday in Arizona, Nevada, Michigan and Minnesota. In addition, the Wisconsin Supreme Court declined to hear a case. These videos you keep posting aren’t getting him anyplace.
Time will tell. They need to get to SCOTUS.. so all is good. Better that these don't slow them down.
 
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Ahhh! The famous "Pee Wee Herman defense"!
tulc(that one never gets old!) :ahah:
Now that's funny.... LOL.
This video is not. People at the ballet counting stations should not be filling out ballets.. But.. no fraud, right?

 
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The courts aren’t buying your videos. Trump lost cases yesterday in Arizona, Nevada, Michigan and Minnesota. In addition, the Wisconsin Supreme Court declined to hear a case. These videos you keep posting aren’t getting him anyplace.
These people understand it...

 
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The only fraud that I acknowledge is the 30,000 votes in Pennsylvania that the Post Office was ordered to deliver by the deadline and did not deliver until the next day.

I combine that, of course, with the Postmaster General's efforts to delay mail deliveries by destroying sorting machines, removing mail boxes, and other tactics. My own family suffered a $200 loss from these tactics when my husband's retirement business--online sales--was affected by a number of packages delivered after 5 weeks. I guess we were lucky, because other buyers had claims pending when the mail finally came through.

If we investigate anything, let's investigate the Post Office. After losing $200, I have absolutely no doubt that many votes never arrived on time.
Which "removing mailboxes" are you talking about?
 
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(snip) People at the ballet (snip)
Just as a heads up? This is "ballEt":
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I think the word you want is "ballOt".
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tulc(thinks that might help ZagZig's posts be a little clearer) :wave:
 
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Just as a heads up? This is "ballEt":
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I think the word you want is "ballOt".
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tulc(thinks that might help ZagZig's posts be a little clearer) :wave:
Thanks for your humorous revelation of my type "O".
 
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Says you...Who are you? You have all the answers? You have some clairvoyant incite into the truth? You are the all seeing eye? You are so knowledgeable that what you say is truth? You are just a single person with no knowledge or right to state such things. I can say "time will tell" While you state unproven absolutes.

Are you always so rude? I and others have posted numerous articles in this and other threads quoting political leaders, judges, and others all of whom have said that there is no proof of significant election fraud. You just keep dismissing facts.

Trump's toadies are the ones claiming to have all the answers, not me.
 
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Keep saying that. Shout it from your roof. It doesn't make it true or false. The mainstream media is now so deep into it that they must keep stating biased and bogus claims and ignoring and covering up the truth and the need for investigation. Nobody here should be afraid of a forensic surgical investigation....Unless they are afraid of the truth.
The only ones making biased and bogus claims are Trump and his followers. What he is saying is anything but the truth.
 
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Getting thrown out only helps the cause. They pray that they are thrown out...They could be bogged down in some corrupt state court...and not make it to SCOTUS.... That is the end game....That is why they need to be thrown out...move on with no roadblocks..Then the affidavits will be fully acknowledged.
Corrupt state courts? Do you have proof of that? Should Christians be making false claims?

You do realize that the Supreme Court doesn't have to take a case, don't you?
 
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Are you always so rude? I and others have posted numerous articles in this and other threads quoting political leaders, judges, and others all of whom have said that there is no proof of significant election fraud. You just keep dismissing facts.

Trump's toadies are the ones claiming to have all the answers, not me.
I'm rude? All you do is say the same thing over and over while people are swearing oaths that there was corruption in many states. Not once have you insinuated that you want Biden to win fair by having an investigation. I think your afraid of an investigation.

You...saying "Biden won" means nothing unless the real votes says so..not you.
 
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We are Christians and the truth should be what we search for. So, lets see. Do you as a Christian want the truth behind this disputed and important election to be brought to light either way.. winner take all.. if they are the true winner? Will you accept the winner if it is investigated and legally proven that one or the other wins? Or do you just want Trump out and Biden in.. end of story?

'Disputed' isn't really the right verb. People voted, more of them voted for Biden than for Trump. What Trump is attempting is not a dispute, but rather the kicking up of enough bs to make people think something untoward is going on. He started creating that atmosphere way before the election - if there is anything he is good at, it's deceit and manipulation, as the rest of his public career makes plain. A dispute would involve there actually being something to be disputed.
 
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