God vs Atheism

[Online.Gamer.79]

Bible calls Atheists fools and that they know God exist but deny it in their mind.

I would like to know which line in the bible says Atheists are fools lol. I do not believe there fools. There entitled to there beliefs, I everyone is entitled to believe what they want, love who they want, as long as there not hurting anyone else it is there business. Biggest problem in the world today is everyone trying to force there beliefs onto everyone else. I say mind your own business lol.

 

[timothyu]

True enough. Jesus told us to scatter seeds, not determine if or how they grow. That is not up to us. We are to just give others choice by example, in the same way God gave us a choice, His will or our own. He did not however say the consequences would be all hearts and flowers. Those who chose man's way would be free to reap all the rewards here they want but that would be the end of it.

 

[Online.Gamer.79]

True enough. Jesus told us to scatter seeds, not determine if or how they grow. That is not up to us. We are to just give others choice by example, in the same way God gave us a choice, His will or our own. He did not however say the consequences would be all hearts and flowers. Those who chose man's way would be free to reap all the rewards here they want but that would be the end of it.

There was line..dont try to remove the speck in your brothers eye when you have a plank in yours.
I could look it up but the meaning is there. Everyone has to walk there own path know one else can walk if for you

 

[timothyu]

There was line..dont try to remove the speck in your brothers eye when you have a plank in yours.
I could look it up but the meaning is there. Everyone has to walk there own path know one else can walk if for you

Likewise the only person we can change is ourselves. Imagine if politicians changed themselves to fit the will of the people instead of getting the people to do things their way.

 

[Online.Gamer.79]

Likewise the only person we can change is ourselves. Imagine if politicians changed themselves to fit the will of the people instead of getting the people to do things their way.

Some people praise Trump or Biden and I would say what I think about them and every other politician in Washington but it would get me banned lol. We got Mitch McConnel who spends every waking min trying to stick it to democrats instead of doing his job. We Donald Trump who is just delusional, we got Biden who has dementia I swear to god. I mean I can not say one good thing about any of them lol. I did like and respect John McCain, I think he was a good man who worked a very dirty job and had to cater to the morons in Washington to get anything done. But there is not one other politician out there than I like. The only one I honestly liked is dead lol

 

[timothyu]

The only one I honestly liked is dead lol

That just shows you who's world this really is .. for now

 

[chad kincham]

Reminds me of the epitaph on an atheist tombstone: all dressed up, but no place to go.

The atheist holiday per psalm 14, is April 1st.

 

[chad kincham]

Oh I believe in evolution and the big and universe and earth being billions of years old. But I believe god did all creation part.

The moon recedes about 1/2 inch per year further away from the earth.

Extrapolate that 1/2 inch backwards for even 1 billion years, and the moon’s orbit would have been touching the surface of the earth.

 

[timothyu]

The moon recedes about 1/2 inch per year further away from the earth.

Guess we're losing our touch.

 

[mindlight]

I was not going to post hear again but I had an interesting argument with an atheist friend.

The exact sperm cell and egg cell needed to meet to create you with the DNA sequence that encoded you, and brought you into existence; a one-in-250 million chance for a sperm cell alone. That is the odds of a human being coming into existence...when you start talking about the earth, galaxy, entire universe the number is much much higher.

Take god out of the equation and still the math says some higher being created everything call it god or aliens...but something started the big bang, and I do believe in that. I believe that is how god created the universe. I am arguing Genesis but I was arguing with a friend of mine who is an atheist. I have know problem with someone having a different view than me, what I do have a problem with is insulting my beliefs

I have never really understood a atheist view. What I find amusing is alot of people who do not believe in god...see the light when there facing there own death. I think fear has something to do with it. People fear what they can not understand and alot of times they try to destroy it.

Yes true it is entirely improbable that the universe, human intelligence and indeed life itself happened by chance. Everything points to a Creator.

Abiogenesis (the idea that nonlife can spontaneously generate life) simply does not happen despite decades of atheists trying to duplicate the process. Without a Creator there are various impossibility points for an impersonal process like Big Bang- Abiogenesis- Evolution:

1) The initial creation
2) The design of the solar system - e.g. Jupiter hoovering up comets
3) The design of the earth - magnetic field, mass (gravity), the moons relative dimensions, the seasons, atmosphere
4) The emergence of life - abiogenesis
5) The development of the human brain

 

[Cormack]

Well even if there is no god I would have aliens then lol.

Wouldn’t invoking aliens as an explanation for why human life exists require even more incredible numbers than just thinking humans evolved by random non intelligent causes, I mean, aliens able to seed human life would themselves need to have either evolved or been seeded.

That provides the universes natural processes even less time to evolve these super intelligent aliens than it had to produce humanity.

Adding super intelligent aliens into the mix seems to add more mathematical impossibility, it makes the math problem harder for our atheist friends, not easier.

While aliens creating the universe seems impossible, they’d be part of the universe. Unless we’re writing about inter-dimensional aliens.

 

[Neogaia777]

If you look in my signature, it says "order is and/or indicates design", etc...

For me, the only reason we have order, and it is not all complete disorder, etc, is only because it has and/or does very clearly indicate "design", etc...

Leaving alone, or let alone, all the great and very, very great, and very, very vast "complexities" in that "design", etc... Which to me indicates, has to indicate, etc, a very, very "vast" and very much extremely and highly complex, and very, very highly intelligent, and very very highly ordered, and very much highly supreme, very very intelligent and completely ordered, "mind", etc...

One that might even be beyond our knowing or being able to be comprehending right now even, etc...

And also, as some have already pointed out already, etc, all that order and complexity and design, etc, did not ever come from no one, or no mind, or no intelligence, or nothing ever also, etc...

At this point, and in my current opinion, etc, it is being atheistic in this current age or era right now that should be "beyond belief" or believing right now, in this age or era right now, etc...

I have some theories on the universe, and also creation and evolution and Genesis as well, but I'll save that/those for another time, etc...

But for me right now, order is design, etc, and the complexity of that order indicates a very very supreme, and a very very high order and/or design, indicating the intelligence and highness of that mind behind that order and/or complexity and/or design, etc...

God Bless!

 

[The Barbarian]

The moon recedes about 1/2 inch per year further away from the earth.

It happens to be now. But physicists will tell you that the recession is due to tidal friction on the Earth due to the moon's gravity, and that the amount of recession will be determined by the profile of the total coastline of the Earth's contintents; it varies considerably from age to age.

About 50 years ago, the first estimate of how long it would take to move beyond the Roche limit (closest possible orbital position for the moon and the Earth) suggested that would have happened no more than 2.3 billion years ago.
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Since then, more precise calculations, using more accurate coastal information for past ages (confirmed by tidal arhythmite data) has shown something closer to 4 billion years.
Recession of the Moon - RationalWiki

Extrapolate that 1/2 inch backwards for even 1 billion years, and the moon’s orbit would have been touching the surface of the earth.

Not even close.

 

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