The Holocaust was Wrong

[Dave L]

Who am I to question God? Are you suggesting He supported Hitler's actions or authorized them? I hope not.

Yours in His Service,

~bella

“He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.” John 3:36 (KJV 1900)

Keep in mind biblical Israel accepted Jesus as Messiah. Also called the Church today. Today's state of Isreal exists because of their hatred and rejection of Christ. Look at how they suffered through the centuries and tell me they are not under God's wrath.

“forbidding us to speak to the nations that they might be saved, to fill up their sins always, but the anger did come upon them—to the end!” 1 Thessalonians 2:16 (YLT)

 

[bèlla]

Look at how they suffered through the centuries and tell me they are not under God's wrath.

According to your logic, Israel is under God's wrath. How do you account for the suffering others experienced? The Lord isn't responsible for killing Jews, enslaving others, trafficking, or any of the despicable things man fathoms.

You're laying heinous acts at God's feet. I'd tread carefully.

Yours in His Service,

~bella

 

[Dave L]

According to your logic, Israel is under God's wrath. How do you account for the suffering others experienced? The Lord isn't responsible for killing Jews, enslaving others, trafficking, or any of the despicable things man fathoms.

You're laying heinous acts at God's feet. I'd tread carefully.

Yours in His Service,

~bella

If people are under wrath, who are you to limit it?

 

[bèlla]

If people are under wrath, who are you to limit it?

Man doesn't determine God's wrath. His ways are not your ways. Nor His thoughts. Who are you to say who He's judging? Many proclaim the same about the US. If you lose all that's dear I trust you'll have no complaints. After all, who are you to limit it?

Yours in His Service,

~bella

 

[Dave L]

Man doesn't determine God's wrath. His ways are not your ways. Nor His thoughts. Who are you to say who He's judging? Many proclaim the same about the US. If you lose all that's dear I trust you'll have no complaints. After all, who are you to limit it?

Yours in His Service,

~bella

How do you view the siege of Jerusalem in AD 70? It was the worst tribulation ever according to Jesus. Ordained by God.

 

[bèlla]

How do you view the siege of Jerusalem in AD 70? It was the worst tribulation ever according to Jesus. Ordained by God.

For each tree is known by its own fruit. For figs are not gathered from thornbushes, nor are grapes picked from a bramble bush.

How do I view antisemitic Christians who cloak their bigotry in biblical events? What do I think of 'believers' who loathe Jews and see their persecution as justification for demonic rhetoric?

The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.

They're the devil's spawn.

Yours in His Service,

~bella

 

[Tinker Grey]

Who am I to question God?

You are you. You must question God. You must evaluate what you see. How can one call God good if one hasn't judged? You must decide whether God's alleged actions are good or evil. To do otherwise is to renounce moral agency.

 

[bèlla]

You are you. You must question God. You must evaluate what you see. How can one call God good if one hasn't judged? You must decide whether God's alleged actions are good or evil. To do otherwise is to renounce moral agency.

Tinker,

You're right. I've been on both sides of the faith question. I didn't reach this place by blind allegiance or outside coercion. It was a choice.

Yours in His Service,

~bella

 

[Tinker Grey]

Tinker,

You're right. I've been on both sides of the faith question. I didn't reach this place by blind allegiance or outside coercion. It was a choice.

Yours in His Service,

~bella

Good

 

[Dave L]

For each tree is known by its own fruit. For figs are not gathered from thornbushes, nor are grapes picked from a bramble bush.

How do I view antisemitic Christians who cloak their bigotry in biblical events? What do I think of 'believers' who loathe Jews and see their persecution as justification for demonic rhetoric?

The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.

They're the devil's spawn.

Yours in His Service,

~bella

Jesus was a Jew. How can a Christian be antisemitic when they worship him? It works like this. Those who rejected Christ exist today solely because of their hatred and rejection of him. The rest accepted him and remained biblical Israel. Scripture says all who reject him are under God's wrath until the end of the world. Only those who accept him escape God's wrath.

 

[bèlla]

Jesus was a Jew. How can a Christian be antisemitic when they worship him?

The same way they discriminate against other races, genders, sexuality, etc. It doesn't make sense to me. But not everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord belongs to Him. He permitted the tares and wheat to grow together.

Love doesn't glorify in the sufferings of others. Nor can it intellectualize the deaths of 6 million people. That's a heart issue.

Yours in His Service,

~bella

 

[Dave L]

The same way they discriminate against other races, genders, sexuality, etc. It doesn't make sense to me. But not everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord belongs to Him. He permitted the tares and wheat to grow together.

Love doesn't glorify in the sufferings of others. Nor can it intellectualize the deaths of 6 million people. That's a heart issue.

Yours in His Service,

~bella

Do you know Shem is the father of most Arabs including Palestinians? All are semites and to single out and give preference to those calling themselves Jews over the rest make you antisemitic?

Sem·ite
/ˈsemīt/
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noun
plural noun: Semites

1. a member of any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic language, including in particular the Jews and Arabs.

 

[Robban]

Do you know Shem is the father of most Arabs including Palestinians? All are semites and to single out and give preference to those calling themselves Jews over the rest make you antisemitic?

Sem·ite
/ˈsemīt/
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noun
plural noun: Semites

1. a member of any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic language, including in particular the Jews and Arabs.

Genesis 9:18-27.

The apple does not fall far from the tree.

Ham, also symbolic for Egypt,
the Egypt that enslaves, sets boundaries and limitations.

Shem when he heard what the papparazi Ham told him he went in backward and covered over his father,
and Japhet helped him.

(After all, was it not because of Noah obeying instructions that they survived the flood?)

Amal of the Amalakites was the first antisemite,
both he and the Amalakites are long gone,

but their spirit is still alive and kicking.

 

[muichimotsu]

According to your logic, Israel is under God's wrath. How do you account for the suffering others experienced? The Lord isn't responsible for killing Jews, enslaving others, trafficking, or any of the despicable things man fathoms.

You're laying heinous acts at God's feet. I'd tread carefully.

Yours in His Service,

~bella

Christians ascribing anti semitism to God? Perish the thought, that's NEVER been justified by selective interpretation or focus on particular themes in the Gospels (or even the Epistles potentially) /sarcasm

 

[muichimotsu]

Jesus was a Jew. How can a Christian be antisemitic when they worship him? It works like this. Those who rejected Christ exist today solely because of their hatred and rejection of him. The rest accepted him and remained biblical Israel. Scripture says all who reject him are under God's wrath until the end of the world. Only those who accept him escape God's wrath.

People can apply the idea to Judaism: or have you never heard of a little thing written by the Father of the Reformation, Martin Luther, On the Jews and Their Lies, written in 1543? Jesus as Jew would've been incidental at best if the idea is he was God incarnate and all

Why should I reject or hate a person that I merely don't agree with? it doesn't follow that I hate people who, for instance, voted for Trump, even though I thoroughly condemn the ideas. You seem to be confusing the idea of disapproval with hatred by some equivocation, the same as Jesus' idea that if I get angry at someone, it's like I've murdered them in my heart.

Where is Biblical Israel today, then, if not in the country which espouses, to my knowledge, equally dangerous Zionist ideals? Is it the idea that "Israel" is the church? I'm not that familiar, but I've gleaned enough to see metaphorical spin from those who prefer to demonize their opponents as heretics, false teachers, even children of Satan or such, the list goes on.

 

[bèlla]

Do you know Shem is the father of most Arabs including Palestinians? All are semites and to single out and give preference to those calling themselves Jews over the rest make you antisemitic?

When we have darkened minds we assume others are equally confused. I have no issue with Arabs. My closest friend was Muslim and I was a practicing Jew. But we broke bread and loved one another like sisters.

Scripture devoid of love is a clanging cymbal worth silencing. No morsel of theology will overcome a heart lacking His presence. It’s dead and useless.

Yours in His Service,

~bella

 

[bèlla]

Genesis 9:18-27.

The apple does not fall far from the tree.

Facts don’t beget wisdom. Many comb the scriptures seeking knowledge and never encounter the Truth.

Always a pleasure to see you Robban. May HaShem bless and keep you.

Shalom,

~bella

 

[Robban]

Facts don’t beget wisdom. Many comb the scriptures seeking knowledge and never encounter the Truth.

Always a pleasure to see you Robban. May HaShem bless and keep you.

Shalom,

~bella

Many thanks for your kindness Bella,

truth be told, I am only the butler, as you, we serve the King, blessed be He.

 

[bèlla]

Many thanks for your kindness Bella,

truth be told, I am only the butler, as you, we serve the King, blessed be He.

You are such a kind soul Robban. Thank you for the song. I always smile when our paths cross. How blessed we are to serve Adonai.

Shalom,

~bella

 

[Robban]

You are such a kind soul Robban. Thank you for the song. I always smile when our paths cross. How blessed we are to serve Adonai.

Shalom,

~bella

Yes, it is beyond words.

And humbling just to think that He chooses the lowly,

maybe angels are not so exciting after all.

He took the Torah from them and gave it to us.

"What is man that You think of him"

Yes, it is beyond words.

Blessings to you and may we go from strength to strength.