It is very strange that the swing state votes take so long to count

[NerdGirl]

There is no conspiracy, etc...

The/this election is very fair, but it is people like you who are going to destroy it, etc...

God Bless!

I never said there was a conspiracy only that the reporting was inconsistent.

 

[Neogaia777]

I saw Washington, Oregon, and California turn blue all at once at 11pm (when the west coast polls closed; I am on the east coast), all at 0% votes reported. Not "light" contested "we're still counting" blue, but dark "Biden wins these electoral votes" blue.

There. You can stop waiting now. You're welcome.

The way they determine who is going to take or have or win a state, is very fair, and there are no conspiracies involved at all, etc...

Some states were determined very early on for Biden, and also many for Trump, etc, and it/this was/always is equally fair all of the time, etc...

But you people, and your leader, are out to destroy that, etc...

And just cause your very "sore losers" only, etc...

God Bless!

 

[Triumvirate]

I saw Washington, Oregon, and California turn blue all at once at 11pm (when the west coast polls closed; I am on the east coast), all at 0% votes reported. Not "light" contested "we're still counting" blue, but dark "Biden wins these electoral votes" blue.

There. You can stop waiting now. You're welcome.

VOPP Table 16: When Absentee/Mail Ballot Processing and Counting Can Begin

All of which seem to allow prescanning of votes, and counts can then be released once polling is up.

So presumably with a strong win and it's known how many votes were returned by mail / absentee (precounted in advance, allowed in those states) and known how many ballots were handed out altogether, it's possible that a win was already established in certain states if a majority of votes already returned for Biden.

I've no idea on the numbers of those states for things like mail in vote numbers Vs total votes cast, but it is pretty trivial to envision scenarios where this is completely standard for the result to be determined quickly.

I suggest not leaping to unfounded conclusions on back of insufficient evidence.

 

[NerdGirl]

VOPP Table 16: When Absentee/Mail Ballot Processing and Counting Can Begin

All of which seem to allow prescanning of votes, and counts can then be released once polling is up.

So presumably with a strong win and it's known how many votes were returned by mail / absentee (precounted in advance, allowed in those states) and known how many ballots were handed out, it's possible that a win was already established in certain states if a majority of votes already returned for Biden.

I've no idea on the numbers of those states for things like mail in vote numbers Vs total votes cast, but it is pretty trivial to envision scenarios where this is completely standard for the result to be determined quickly.

I suggest not leaping to unfounded conclusions on back of insufficient evidence.

Again, all I'm asking for is consistency in the reporting, and the way the media and news outlets were calling states. No "unfounded conclusions" here. Just what I witnessed with my own eyes. Personally, I don't think any state should be "called" until 100% of the votes are in, counted, and there is no chance of it flipping.

 

[Triumvirate]

I never said there was a conspiracy only that the reporting was inconsistent.

And there has been a lot of misinfo and poor faith questioning going on, insinuating that things are "strange" before basic things like arithmetic and state counting laws have even been considered.

 

[Triumvirate]

Again, all I'm asking for is consistency in the reporting, and the way the media and news outlets were calling states. No "unfounded conclusions" here. Just what I witnessed with my own eyes. Personally, I don't think any state should be "called" until 100% of the votes are in, counted, and there is no chance of it flipping.

But again, this was done for both candidates, and it's perfectly reasonable if precounting has been done. Why get yourself in a tizzy when you obviously haven't considered basic facts?

 

[Tanj]

If this watermark story is true, and the votes were in fact counterfeit, then the Fed needs to interfere.

Nope. The Fed does not get to violate the constitution. That's not how it works.

 

[Neogaia777]

I never said there was a conspiracy only that the reporting was inconsistent.

If the reporting about the votes was truly inconsistent, or inaccurate, then that does or would not change the actual votes at all ever that would come out in the end, etc, but your saying they/there are or it does, etc, hence you think there is some kind of conspiracy, etc..

And I'm telling you right now that there is not, etc...

Anyway,

Maybe the reports that came out at first about Trump, or Trumps at first "supposed lead" at first, etc, were "inconsistent", etc...

And if that is the case, then why are either you or they trying to stop the actual data/math/count of votes, etc, that are supposed to come out in the end, etc...

And I can tell you right now that I know "exactly why", etc...

Anyway,

God Bless!

 

[NerdGirl]

And there has been a lot of misinfo and poor faith questioning going on, insinuating that things are "strange" before basic things like arithmetic and state counting laws have even been considered.

There are many things going on right now, from both sides. Much of it is unsavory.

 

[NerdGirl]

If the reporting about the votes was truly inconsistent, or inaccurate, then that does or would not change the actual votes at all ever that would come out in the end, etc, but your saying they/there are or it does, etc, hence you think there is some kind of conspiracy, etc..

No. That's not what I think. I'd recommend not trying to enforce your opinions into another person's mind. I'm the only person who can tell you what I think.

An inconsistency does not equal a conspiracy.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Again, all I'm asking for is consistency in the reporting, and the way the media and news outlets were calling states. No "unfounded conclusions" here. Just what I witnessed with my own eyes. Personally, I don't think any state should be "called" until 100% of the votes are in, counted, and there is no chance of it flipping.

I witnessed with my own eyes Mississippi, Arkansas, Wyoming, Oklahoma, Kansas,and Nebraska go bright "Trump already won" RED with 0% of the vote - they were already colored in when I tuned in. I was flipping between ABC 7 in and NBC 4, both in NY City.

I am not going to cry or be upset about it because it's a given that those states were going to go to Trump. Just like it's a given that my state, New Jersey, was a lock for Biden.

Your memory is selective and it's likely due to your political bias.

 

[Triumvirate]

There are many things going on right now, from both sides. Much of it is unsavory.

Mmhm.

Funny how there's that perfect balance of bad on both sides again.

Frankly, again, don't care to hear it about my side compared to yours.

Your side politicised mask wearing and the spread of a pandemic, forcing more people to need and want postal votes.

Then your president politicised that, saying it was unreliable, while his man was making it less effective.

Then your judges made it so that some votes couldn't be counted early in some states, even though other states manage it just fine.

Combined effect? "Gosh isn't it strange there are all these votes arriving late in the post for Biden?"

As if you don't know why. But no, must be a conspiracy. Accusing us of trying to steal the election when every major politicisation your man has carried out has benefited your side, and he's trying to call states early.

You people are either incredibly unintelligent and uninquisitive, or incredibly malevolent to pull a stunt like this.

And it in no way compares to anything you can name on our side.

You screwed up, and you screwed up big time.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

There are many things going on right now, from both sides. Much of it is unsavory.

Not really. Some unsavory false declarations of victory by the Republicans but not much else unsavory going on.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Again, all I'm asking for is consistency in the reporting, and the way the media and news outlets were calling states. No "unfounded conclusions" here. Just what I witnessed with my own eyes. Personally, I don't think any state should be "called" until 100% of the votes are in, counted, and there is no chance of it flipping.

You're entitled to your opinion on the matter, but this also is nothing new. People have been "calling" states before 100% of the vote has been counted for a very long time.

 

[JustSomeBloke]

Supposedly, the ballots were secretly watermarked to deter potential counterfeiting.
If there is anything to this, then Trump might win afterall:
Intelligence Insider: President Trump Setup Democrats In “Sting Operation” To Catch Them Stealing Election! | Zero Hedge | Zero Hedge

That is very interesting. Have you seen this video? Maybe it is evidence of the rumoured QFS code designed to catch those who are forging ballots. If you set the playback quality to maximum (720p), you can just make out some micro dots. Every ballot would have a different code, so forged ballots with missing, wrong, or duplicated codes could be identified.

 

[NerdGirl]

Mmhm.

Funny how there's that perfect balance of bad on both sides again.

Frankly, again, don't care to hear it about my side compared to yours.

Your side politicised mask wearing and the spread of a pandemic, forcing more people to need and want postal votes.

Then your president politicised that, saying it was unreliable.

Then your judges made it so that some votes couldn't be counted early in some states.

Combined effect? "Gosh isn't it strange there are all these votes arriving late in the post for Biden?"

As if you don't know why. But no, must be a conspiracy. Accusing us of trying to steal the election when every major politicisation your man has carried out has benefited your side, and he's trying to call states early (but we simply mus

You people are either incredibly unintelligent and inquisitive, or incredibly malevolent to pull a stunt like this.

And it in no way compares to anything you can name on our side.

You screwed up, and you screwed up big time.

You continually claim that you don't care, but you love to respond, lol. You also love lumping individuals into a vague, amalgous "you" group, instead of putting forth the mental effort to address people as individuals. Your attitude is at least consistent in its nastiness and ugliness. It's quite a lot of energy that you expend for someone who insists that they don't care every time they post.

I will not be engaging further with you. Have a good evening

 

[Neogaia777]

Again, all I'm asking for is consistency in the reporting, and the way the media and news outlets were calling states. No "unfounded conclusions" here. Just what I witnessed with my own eyes. Personally, I don't think any state should be "called" until 100% of the votes are in, counted, and there is no chance of it flipping.

No offense, but do you even know anything at all about math at all, etc...?

And sometimes there can be inconsistent reporting with some outlets, etc, but many of them do their absolute best to know how the "math" works, etc, and do their absolute best, most of them anyway, to not be doing any kind or inconsistent reporting, or inaccurate calls before they should, etc...

Can some of them be wrong sometimes, yes, they can, but it does not change the actual count of the votes that all come out in the end, etc...

And they, most of them, are rarely "wrong" once certain calls have been made, and the actual votes are all actually counted, and are all counted in in the end, etc...

It's the math and the way of their determining, or predetermining, that you are having a problem with here, but it is rarely, very very rarely, "false", etc...

God Bless!

 

[NerdGirl]

You're entitled to your opinion on the matter, but this also is nothing new. People have been "calling" states before 100% of the vote has been counted for a very long time.

Yes, I know. And my opinion is not that this is new. Only that it is an inconsistent way to report, to call one state with 0% votes reported, and not call another with 95% votes reported.

That's all. Inconsistent. Not new. Not conspiracy.

Just inconsistent.

 

[Triumvirate]

You continually claim that you don't care, but you love to respond, lol. You also love lumping individuals into a vague, amalgous "you" group, instead of putting forth the mental effort to address people as individuals. Your attitude is at least consistent in its nastiness and ugliness. It's quite a lot of energy that you expend for someone who insists that they don't care every time they post.

I will not be engaging further with you. Have a good evening

Right, because insinuating that your political opponents are trying to steal an election when that's total projection isn't nasty and ugly.

Look in the mirror, Christian.

 

[NerdGirl]

No offense, but do you even know anything at all about math at all, etc...?

"No offense", followed by such a statement

 

[Triumvirate]

"No offense", followed by such a statement

"I'm not mad, definitely not! "