In what states will recounts be requested?

[SimplyMe]

From what I can see now, Trump has indicated he will request a recount in Wisconsin. It is worth noting, unless noted, states require the campaign requesting the recount to pay the costs of the recount -- though they are "forgiven" or refunded if the winner of the election changes or (depending on state) if there is a "substantial" change in the vote count.

Michigan: It appears that the only way a recount can be requested in Michigan is if the Trump campaign alleges that some specific act of fraud or mistake, and that will only cause a recount in the precincts where the fault is alleged.

Arizona: Arizona will trigger an automatic recount if the vote count ends closer than 0.1% (one-tenth of one percent). There is no way to request a recount.

Nevada: It appears there are no requirements to request a recount, either side can request one -- in fact, it appears that any Nevada voter can request a recount.

Georgia: A recount can be requested if the vote ends up with a margin of 0.5% or less. Additionally, it appears Georgia is one of the few states that pays for the recount.

North Carolina: There is an automatic recount if an "error" is found by the state during the count. Additionally, the campaigns can request a recount if the vote total is less than 1%. North Carolina is another state where campaigns are not charged for requesting a recount.

Pennsylvania: If the margin is less than 0.5% there is an automatic recount. Otherwise, recounts can be requested with no requirements.

It will be interesting to see if any automatic recounts are triggered. Trump's campaign has said they will request a recount in Wisconsin, and I'm guessing they'll allege "irregularities" in Michigan to have a recount, with the only question is how much of the state they'll request recounts in. I also suspect if Trump ends Pennsylvania that they will request the recount.

Any guesses as to what other states recounts will be requested in?

 

[HTacianas]

From what I can see now, Trump has indicated he will request a recount in Wisconsin. It is worth noting, unless noted, states require the campaign requesting the recount to pay the costs of the recount -- though they are "forgiven" or refunded if the winner of the election changes or (depending on state) if there is a "substantial" change in the vote count.

Michigan: It appears that the only way a recount can be requested in Michigan is if the Trump campaign alleges that some specific act of fraud or mistake, and that will only cause a recount in the precincts where the fault is alleged.

Arizona: Arizona will trigger an automatic recount if the vote count ends closer than 0.1% (one-tenth of one percent). There is no way to request a recount.

Nevada: It appears there are no requirements to request a recount, either side can request one -- in fact, it appears that any Nevada voter can request a recount.

Georgia: A recount can be requested if the vote ends up with a margin of 0.5% or less. Additionally, it appears Georgia is one of the few states that pays for the recount.

North Carolina: There is an automatic recount if an "error" is found by the state during the count. Additionally, the campaigns can request a recount if the vote total is less than 1%. North Carolina is another state where campaigns are not charged for requesting a recount.

Pennsylvania: If the margin is less than 0.5% there is an automatic recount. Otherwise, recounts can be requested with no requirements.

It will be interesting to see if any automatic recounts are triggered. Trump's campaign has said they will request a recount in Wisconsin, and I'm guessing they'll allege "irregularities" in Michigan to have a recount, with the only question is how much of the state they'll request recounts in. I also suspect if Trump ends Pennsylvania that they will request the recount.

Any guesses as to what other states recounts will be requested in?

Nevada of 2020 may end up being the Florida of 2000.

 

[Danthemailman]

Lawsuit filed. I knew these mail in votes would be a problem. I do find it strange that Trump was leading in multiple states when I went to bed last night and it looked like he had a pretty good chance of winning, then all the sudden today, after the mail in votes get counted, Biden slips ahead of Trump in those multiple states and wins them. Trumps chances of winning now look very slim. Sounds fishy to me, but whatever. God is always in control. His will be done, regardless of who wins the election.

 

[essentialsaltes]

From what I can see now, Trump has indicated he will request a recount in Wisconsin.

I thought it interesting that the Republican Governor Scott Walker mentioned that recent recounts have only changed things by a few hundred at most. So Biden's lead seems secure.

 

[Blade]

Happen so many times over the years.. doesn't bother me at all. They had recounts when Trump won the 1st time so.. not sure why it would matter if Trump wants a recount. And those recounts didnt change anything.. yet never know. Left would go crazy if it does

 

[SimplyMe]

Lawsuit filed. I knew these mail in votes would be a problem. I do find it strange that Trump was leading in multiple states when I went to bed last night and it looked like he had a pretty good chance of winning, then all the sudden today, after the mail in votes get counted, Biden slips ahead of Trump in those multiple states and wins them. Trumps chances of winning now look very slim. Sounds fishy to me, but whatever. God is always in control. His will be done, regardless of who wins the election.

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As has been mentioned in multiple other threads -- Trump discouraged his voters from voting by mail, but because of the virus, Democrats were encouraging it. Because of this, roughly 2/3rd of mail in votes were requested by Democrats.

Next, in most of these late states, their election law (often put in place by Republican legislatures) do not allow processing mail-in ballots until election day. Because of this, and the priority on election day of in person voting, the mail-in ballots are processed last. Knowing there would be a high number of mail in votes, because of the virus and worrying about the risk of voting in person, Election Boards even requested to be able to count the mail-in votes early, the state legislatures did not allow it.

So, in person vote was a majority Trump voters. In states where that vote is counted early (which is largely the states that reported earlier in the evening) you saw Biden jump out to an early lead and, as in person votes were counted, Trump would slowly catch up and often go ahead in the voting. Now, at that end of the night, you see the opposite from those states that are counting mail in votes last. With the voters who requested the mail in votes (overwhelmingly Democrat) and with most of these being from urban/suburban areas, which tend to be Democrat, there have been plenty of votes to tighten up the election.

It isn't anything fraudulent or "wrong," just a result of the pandemic that makes this election seem a bit "weird" compared to previous elections where there were much smaller mail-in votes.

 

[durangodawood]

Lawsuit filed. I knew these mail in votes would be a problem. I do find it strange that Trump was leading in multiple states when I went to bed last night and it looked like he had a pretty good chance of winning, then all the sudden today, after the mail in votes get counted, Biden slips ahead of Trump in those multiple states and wins them. Trumps chances of winning now look very slim. Sounds fishy to me, but whatever. God is always in control. His will be done, regardless of who wins the election.

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There is no problem. Trump got his people to shun the mail in. D's didnt do that. Takes a bit longer to verify and open all the mail ins. Thats it.

 

[durangodawood]

...They had recounts when Trump won the 1st time so....

Did they? What states?

 

[SimplyMe]

Did they? What states?

I believe one of the third party candidates requested a recount in Wisconsin.

 

[Cis.jd]

I'm hoping the red salt is going to enjoyable as the blue salt of 2016.

Love the Rinoa av btw. Not my fav in the series but I still enjoyed it.

 

[SimplyMe]

I'm hoping the red salt is going to enjoyable as the blue salt of 2016.

Himalayan salt is considered some of the best in the world, though it is more of a pink color, and not a red.

 

[wing2000]

Nevada of 2020 may end up being the Florida of 2000.

How so? (noting it's less than 24 hours after the poles closed in NV).

 

[SimplyMe]

How so? (noting it's less than 24 hours after the poles closed in NV).

Yes, while there is the issue with the "Sharpie" ballots, they do not appear to be anywhere close to the "hanging chad" controversy. Instead, it appears there will be no issue getting the ballots counted, just that they can't be machine counted so are being processed more slowly.

 

[WolfGate]

Lawsuit filed. I knew these mail in votes would be a problem. I do find it strange that Trump was leading in multiple states when I went to bed last night and it looked like he had a pretty good chance of winning, then all the sudden today, after the mail in votes get counted, Biden slips ahead of Trump in those multiple states and wins them. Trumps chances of winning now look very slim. Sounds fishy to me, but whatever. God is always in control. His will be done, regardless of who wins the election.

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There were multiple articles across many news sources covering the spectrum of political philosophy stating that since mail in votes were more popular with Democrats you should expect to see exactly what has been happening happen in those states that report election day results and then mail in ballots. This was not a surprise.

 

[wing2000]

Yes, while there is the issue with the "Sharpie" ballots, they do not appear to be anywhere close to the "hanging chad" controversy. Instead, it appears there will be no issue getting the ballots counted, just that they can't be machine counted so are being processed more slowly.

I think you were referring to AZ:

The Maricopa County Elections Department says voters can use black or blue ink or Sharpies to fill out ballots in person. Their new tabulation machines this election, which were tested many times, will count ballots with these types of pens.

Additionally, concerns over a Sharpie bleeding through a ballot in Maricopa County should be alleviated by the ballot itself being offset, meaning it would not spoil a vote on the other side of the ballot, the county said in a video on Twitter explaining the use of Sharpies.

The county preferred Sharpies at vote centers because they dry quickly. Ballpoint ink can smudge onto optical readers or other ballots, creating issues, the county said.

Voters can check the status of their ballots beballotready.vote.

Arizona ballots will be counted if marked with Sharpies, felt-tip pens

 

[HTacianas]

How so? (noting it's less than 24 hours after the poles closed in NV).

Only that it's a close race and Nevada has enough electoral votes to change the outcome.

 

[wing2000]

Only that it's a close race and Nevada has enough electoral votes to change the outcome.

Okay. When I hear hanging chads, I recall weeks of legally wrangling and ultimately a USSC ruling.

 

[SimplyMe]

Only that it's a close race and Nevada has enough electoral votes to change the outcome.

How can it "change the outcome" when no outcome is yet decided? Yes, I know many (on both sides) who presume that Biden will win, once all the votes are counted -- but part of that is that is because he just needs 1 of the 4 remaining states to go his way (assuming Arizona, which some sites have called for Biden).

 

[HTacianas]

How can it "change the outcome" when no outcome is yet decided? Yes, I know many (on both sides) who presume that Biden will win, once all the votes are counted -- but part of that is that is because he just needs 1 of the 4 remaining states to go his way (assuming Arizona, which some sites have called for Biden).

Based on my count right now, Biden has 270 electoral votes to Trump's 268. Biden currently has an 8000 vote lead over Trump in Nevada. Nevada has enough electors to change the results as of now and is the most likely "ground zero" for a recount. If there was any place in the US prime for a challenge it is Nevada.

 

[RDKirk]

Based on my count right now, Biden has 270 electoral votes to Trump's 268. Biden currently has an 8000 vote lead over Trump in Nevada. Nevada has enough electors to change the results as of now and is the most likely "ground zero" for a recount. If there was any place in the US prime for a challenge it is Nevada.

I agree. However, you missed the single elector Biden gets from Nebraska, because Nebraska apportions electors based on state districts won by each candidate. Biden got one of those.