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Moses said NO ONE had the law the law God gave to Israel, until God gave it to him on Mount Sinai:
Deu 5:1 And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them.
Deu 5:2 The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.
Deu 5:3 The LORD made NOT this covenant with our fathers, but with US even-us, who are all of us here alive THIS day.
Hi chad kincham,
As I stated in my previous post, it is apparent that the law was revealed and known in the world before Moses without there being any record of God commanding or otherwise revealing His will to His creation.
- Before Cain murdered his brother God told him that "sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it." Where is the divine will revealed identifying that murder is a sin?
- Speaking of Cain, how did he and Abel know about the sacrificial system? Why was what Cain offered rejected and Abel's offering accepted?
- On what revealed basis did God condemn all but 8 of the entire preflood world?
- On what revealed basis is Noah found to be righteous and blameless while God identified the earth as being "corrupt...and full of violence"? On what revealed basis can you determine what is considered "corrupt" such that God determined to destroy the earth?
- Joseph knew it was "wicked" and a "sin against God" for him to commit adultery. How did he come to this realization?
And God says why and to who, He first gave the command to keep the 7th day:
Deu 5:15 And REMEMBER that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: THEREFORE the LORD thy God commanded THEE to keep the sabbath day.
The sabbath day command was given only to Israel as a covenant sign and memorial of their being set free from slavery in Egypt.
Exodus 20:8-11 provides the original Sabbath command and explanation which God spoke for all Israel to hear. We keep the Sabbath as a weekly memorial of the creation event. Toward the end of their 40 years in the wilderness Moses provided this sort of renewal of vows reading of the Ten Commandment covenant in which the Sabbath is given additional meaning for this group to recall their freedom from slavery.
Again, the Sabbath origin is found in Genesis, "in the beginning." There were no Jews then. Only Adam, Eve, and their Creator. Since Adam and Eve were created on the sixth day then they would be with Jesus when He rested on the seventh. Do you really believe Jesus rested, blessed and made holy the seventh day and then when Adam and Eve asked Him about why He did this He responded, "Don't worry about that. That won't apply to you or anyone else for 2,000 years. Then I'll have someone reference back to this moment as the reason for why it is important later"?
Exo 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of ISRAEL, saying, Verily my sabbaths YE shall keep: for it is a SIGN between ME and YOU throughout YOUR generations; that ye May know that I amthe LORD that doth sanctify YOU.
From my understanding of Scripture icy that the new covenant is only for the "people of Israel and the people of Judah" (Hebrews 8:7-13). If you're a Gentile like me then we become part of Israel by being grafted into Israel's tree (Romans 11:11-24).
3) Jesus of course kept the sabbath, it was still in effect until He died and rose again.
Not to mention that if He went on Sunday into the Orthodox Jewish synagogue to read from Isaiah, as the NT shows He did, there would’ve been no one there to listen.
I'm curious. Since Jesus didn't tell a single one of His twelve closest followers that the one command He said to "Remember" is the one He wanted everyone to forget (Luke 23:56), at what point did this overruling revelation come into effect? Jesus spoke the Ten Commandments for all the upwards of two million people in the wilderness to hear, and it was so awe-some that the people insisted that they preferred not to hear God's voice (Exodus 20:19). Yet supposedly this one command which was to be remembered (Psalm 111:4) was suddenly, selectively and secretively removed from the Ten Commandment covenant?
I pray this helps.
But for the grace of God go I,cyspark
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