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[Belk]

Have you read in the article about what that "alternative remediation" is? It's a group that was actually involved in the criminal behavior in the first place. No different than terrorists being handed back to their own trainers to get more training.

"The DA's office has received 37 misdemeanor cases so far from the latest civil unrest in Seattle. Many are for obstructing police, but the list includes half a dozen assaults, theft, reckless endangerment and attempted property damage. Holmes said he hopes to refer these protesters to “Choose 180, a restorative justice program with a proven track record.”

However, Choose 180 is one of the groups currently occupying the Capitol Hill Occupied Protest (CHOP) and negotiating with the city for terms including barriers to extend the occupation."

What criminal behavior were they involved in? Being in the CHOP was not criminal of and by itself.

 

[Aldebaran]

What criminal behavior were they involved in? Being in the CHOP was not criminal of and by itself.

What they did (take over a section of the city and prevent police and medical personel from doing their work, resulting in deaths) certainly was. If you don't think so, then perhaps you wouldn't mind if they took over part of where you live, including your home.

 

[Belk]

What they did (take over a section of the city and prevent police and medical personel from doing their work, resulting in deaths) certainly was. If you don't think so, then perhaps you wouldn't mind if they took over part of where you live, including your home.

What criminal behavior were they engaged in? Being in the CHOP was not criminal.

 

[Aldebaran]

What criminal behavior were they engaged in? Being in the CHOP was not criminal.

What they did (take over a section of the city and prevent police and medical personel from doing their work, resulting in deaths) certainly was. If you don't think so, then perhaps you wouldn't mind if they took over part of where you live, including your home.

 

[Belk]

So your claim is that any person who was in the CHOP is a criminal?

 

[Aldebaran]

So your claim is that any person who was in the CHOP is a criminal?

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/seattle-businesses-and-residents-sue-city-over-chop-zone/

After CHOP is swept away, Capitol Hill businesses, residents express relief

 

[Ken-1122]

Thank you. So you believe that people have no qualms about rioting a looting because a "half a dozen assaults, theft, reckless endangerment and attempted property damage." were set to be referred to alternative remediation?

It was a lot more than half a dozen. I believe then there are no or little consequences for violent behavior, it encourages such behavior

 

[Belk]

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/seattle-businesses-and-residents-sue-city-over-chop-zone/

After CHOP is swept away, Capitol Hill businesses, residents express relief

That does not answer my question. Is anyone who was in the CHOP a criminal?

 

[Belk]

It was a lot more than half a dozen. I believe then there are no or little consequences for violent behavior, it encourages such behavior

Not according to the article you posted.

 

[Aldebaran]

That does not answer my question. Is anyone who was in the CHOP a criminal?

It depends upon how technical about it you want to get. Taking over a section of the city and preventing police and medical from enforcing laws and rendering aid to those who had been shot by CHOP "protesters" is hardly allowed under law. If those responsible for the killings, destruction of property, harassment of business owners, etc. were never brought to justice, then I suppose you could reason that none of them became convicted criminals for what they did. But that certainly doesn't excuse their criminal behavior, try as you might.

 

[Belk]

It depends upon how technical about it you want to get. Taking over a section of the city and preventing police and medical from enforcing laws and rendering aid to those who had been shot by CHOP "protesters" is hardly allowed under law. If those responsible for the killings, destruction of property, harassment of business owners, etc. were never brought to justice, then I suppose you could reason that none of them became convicted criminals for what they did. But that certainly doesn't excuse their criminal behavior, try as you might.

You have yet to point out any criminal behavior. You just note that they were in the CHOP and then claim because of that they are criminals. Simply being in the CHOP is not criminal and they have not charged anyone for being there. If you have specific crimes you feel they have committed by all means bring therm forward. Show us whom from this group prevented police or medical personnel from doing their job.

 

[Aldebaran]

You have yet to point out any criminal behavior. You just note that they were in the CHOP and then claim because of that they are criminals. Simply being in the CHOP is not criminal and they have not charged anyone for being there. If you have specific crimes you feel they have committed by all means bring therm forward. Show us whom from this group prevented police or medical personnel from doing their job.

You just proved my point.
But Richard Hanks would disagree with you.

"The suspect, who has since been arrested and charged with alleged arson and vandalism, has been identified as 21-year-old Richard Hanks. "
Seattle business owner says CHOP protesters threatened to kill him for detaining thief, arsonist

 

[Belk]

You just proved my point.
But Richard Hanks would disagree with you.

"The suspect, who has since been arrested and charged with alleged arson and vandalism, has been identified as 21-year-old Richard Hanks. "
Seattle business owner says CHOP protesters threatened to kill him for detaining thief, arsonist

The person charged with Arson and trespassing would disagree that simply being in the chop is not criminal? OK. So what exactly is showing me an article of someone who has identified criminal behavior supposed to show?

 

[jgarden]

Why would the Trump Campaign allow the President's son, Donald Jr, to have his picture taken with the current nation Chairman of the "PROUD BOYS," Enrique Tarrio and then claim that he has no knowledge of the group?

 

[Aldebaran]

The person charged with Arson and trespassing would disagree that simply being in the chop is not criminal? OK. So what exactly is showing me an article of someone who has identified criminal behavior supposed to show?

It shows that there's no point in any further attempts to educate you on this subject. Perhaps others will be emboldened by the idea that taking over an area of 6 city blocks and turning it into a crap zone complete with arson and vandalism since you claim it's not criminal.

 

[Aldebaran]

Why would the Trump Campaign allow the President's son, Donald Jr, to have his picture taken with the current nation Chairman of the "PROUD BOYS," Enrique Torres and then claim that he has no knowledge of the group?

If you were a politician and someone walked up to you and said, "Mind if I get a pic with you?" and you said, "Ok", and then that was it, does it mean you have knowledge of the person you got a picture taken with, let alone whatever affiliations they have?

 

[jgarden]

Roger Stone, who recently received a "Presidential Pardon" from Donald J Trump, pictured with the Proud Boys making the "white supremecist" hand sign!

Leader of Proud Boys is state director of Latinos for Trump | Daily Mail Online

 

[Pommer]

If you were a politician and someone walked up to you and said, "Mind if I get a pic with you?" and you said, "Ok", and then that was it, does it mean you have knowledge of the person you got a picture taken with, let alone whatever affiliations they have?

When did Donald Trump Jr become a ”politician”?
I thought that he and Eric were running Trump International, you know, business men?[/B]

 

[Aldebaran]

When did Donald J Trump Jr become a ”politician”?
I thought that he and Eric were running Trump International, you know, business men?

I wasn't aware that the photo in post 276 was Donald J Trump.

 

[Ken-1122]

Not according to the article you posted.

The article I posted was of a particular protest; it was not refering to all of the protests that has been taking place over the past 8 or so months. So yes; for that particular protest, 37 misdemeaners, and about a half dozen violent acts for that particular protest.