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Now this is what I talking about the scares me

Nothing wrong with a healthy fear AW, it’s the very thing that keeps up from going too close to the edge and toppling over!

My concern about your personal situation though, is that the evil one might be plaguing you with fearful thoughts to take your peace from you. Remember, if we confess our sins to God out of a truly grieving and repentant heart, then He is faithful to quickly forgive us completely, and not hold them against us furthermore.

I see you have a Catholic background. One of the upsides of that is that we were taught to fear alienating ourselves to God through sin. One of the downsides of Catholicism is that we were taught a system of penance, which is counterproductive, and takes away our opportunity to accept God‘s willingness to quickly forgive and remove the stigma of sin from us. Sure, we pay the consequences of our sinful ways, but that is what often brings us to that important point of repentance. Another downside of Catholicism and Orthodox denominations, is that it’s heavy on graphical imagery, and pictures of death, hell and Satan designed to scare are always on display. These can promote an unhealthy fear and paranoia, particularly in young minds, that can carry forward into adulthood.

We are saved from hell and the final death by our faith in The Lord Jesus Christ, not by any of our works or the works of others. Jesus has done our stint in hell for us as it were, so we won’t need too, ever, whilst we continue to remain faithful to Him. So concentrate on what it is to be faithful to Him, find out what that comprises and do that, and put thoughts of hell and death behind you. God imparts to us a spirit of power/strength, love, and of a sound mind that helps us overcome the wiles of the evil one.

When Satan tries this fear of hell and death on me, and he does it from time to time, I say to him “may God rebuke you Satan, I’m saved by faith in The Lord Jesus Christ, in Who He is and what He has done for me, not by any works of mine, so begone”.

AW, put Jesus’ yolk of peace on you, block your mind off to the lies of the evil one, be accepting and joyful that God is faithful to you and loves you, and live in peace. :amen:
 
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I have seen it before, and I personally believe his story. Although his story was more a vision, I know of a man who I was witnessing to on the street, and he told me that he had an NDE in a hospital, where he started to go down into hell after dying for a short period of time, he felt the heat on the rocks, he saw an angel holding a sword and he then came back to his body.

NDE's in my opinion, are a gateway to understanding biblical life after death. It shows a little of God's nature, and the reality of heaven and hell. There are some fakes out there, but the majority of the stuff is good.

My opinion is that his guy is on the money, he is correct.

My dad had a similar experience. He had actually had unclean spirits cast out of him and said during that time, he saw a vision of God pulling him out of the fire. He also said he could feel the heat while he was seeing this vision.
 
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Remember, if we confess our sins to God out of a truly grieving and repentant heart, then He is faithful to quickly forgive us completely, and not hold them against us furthermore.

I feel my heart isn't repentful and ungrieving. It's just selfishness. I been crying about this but Idk if it's fear, guilt, or selfishness
 
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My dad had a similar experience. He had actually had unclean spirits cast out of him and said during that time, he saw a vision of God pulling him out of the fire. He also said he could feel the heat while he was seeing this vision.

Was it a dream or did he die and see hell then come back to earth?
 
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Was it a dream or did he die and see hell then come back to earth?

Well, I wouldn't call it either. He described it as a vision. Many people in the Bible had visions who were neither asleep nor dying.
 
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I would expect this to be on Sid Roth's Its supernatural. I guess Jesus Christ of Nazareth is just not enough. And what is with the background video, Yikes!
 
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I feel my heart isn't repentful and ungrieving. It's just selfishness. I been crying about this but Idk if it's fear, guilt, or selfishness

Yes, well, join the club :(
We all have these self-doubts at times AW.

Have a look at King David's history, it could be argued he seemed to flip-flop between self flagellation (metaphorically speaking), despair and depression, and outright joy. Some of his Psalms seem to follow this pattern. Yet he was regarded as having a heart after/committed to God. Paul, even though he was speaking somewhat in the 3rd person sense, declared how frustrated he was with himself....’I do things I shouldn’t do, and I don’t do the things I should do’ (he is talking about works of righteousness here), and declared himself wretched.

I’ve had my fair share of poor performances during my Christian walk, but the amazing grace of God has comforted me as I have seen Him watching over and caring for me, faithful to His words, even though at times I have been unfaithful.

Who can truly put a measure over God’s love.... no one, the immensity of His love and faithfulness is immeasurable....let us all be at peace, rest easy in these.

Paul tried to excel in everything, and was frustrated when he couldn’t live up to his own expectations. God told him to relax as it were, that His/God’s grace is sufficient proof of his acceptance.

We have to accept God’s graciousness towards us AW, since we all are fault-prone. Otherwise we’ll leave ourselves open to untruthful accusations of our inadequacy from the evil one. We all have to clamp onto God’s grace and faithfulness, not the evil one’s lies, and that is something we all need to continually do.
 
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That wasn't what I heard him explain. He said he had laid down in his bed and then got up and had this experience. But even if you are referring to another part of the story, what gave rise to the phenomenon we call by the term NDE is one in which the person reports something that is undeniably true, which happened while that person was dead, and cannot otherwise be explained.
I am saying the man I met on this street had an NDE not the guy in the video.
 
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I've personally had a supernatural experience like this. I believe the guy. I didn't go to hell, but rather the things that I saw and felt and heard could have ONLY come from God because there were emotions and the very peace of God while I was in the very presence of God that there was NO word in existence that could adequately describe the joy, happiness, and peace I felt that night. I also saw, and personally witnessed the power of the Holy Spirit that night. I saw the silhouette of Jesus and I never got to hear him personally speak because at the end I stupidly asked him if he was Jesus and my spirit went back into my body. I didn't even know you had to be born again the night I converted, I had no clue when I was witnessing it, nor what it was that was happening to me. I had to describe it to people and they had to tell me. So to me, that also adds to the validity of my experience.

So because of that, whenever people claim that they saw Jesus or that they saw something supernatural, because of my personal experience of being a hand witness to my own born again "ceremony" if you will, the very night I repented and came to God, I believe them. Yes, some of them are probably lies but, not every single one of them are like mine. God is still appearing to people like he did in the past, he didn't just stop because he died ascended to heaven and then... that's it. Or because he appeared to Paul and that was his last appearance. Paul said before he died that God was appearing to people around the world AFTER he had his own personal encoutner with God. Like I said, my own personal experience could have ONLY come from God. There was no other explanation. The only other explanation was that it was a deception from Satan and to say that is to be on line with the pharisees who committed the unforgivable sin. It was the VERY power of God almighty. Also, how could Satan regenerate me and cause a false born again experience? The power of Satan cannot accomplish that, only the power of God can. I'm sorry, you cannot convince me that it was a deception from Satan nor can you convince me that this person might not have gone to hell and back again or any other person might have gone to heaven and back again. When God wants to show somebody something, he can pull it off whether they're dead or alive. Or if you're clinically dead for several minutes, YOU'RE DEAD! So of course it's possible for people to see things from the world over. I'm not saying every experience is authentic I'm just saying, it's possible.
 
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I've personally had a supernatural experience like this. I believe the guy. I didn't go to hell, but rather the things that I saw and felt and heard could have ONLY come from God because there were emotions and the very peace of God while I was in the very presence of God that there was NO word in existence that could adequately describe the joy, happiness, and peace I felt that night. I also saw, and personally witnessed the power of the Holy Spirit that night. I saw the silhouette of Jesus and I never got to hear him personally speak because at the end I stupidly asked him if he was Jesus and my spirit went back into my body. I didn't even know you had to be born again the night I converted, I had no clue when I was witnessing it, nor what it was that was happening to me. I had to describe it to people and they had to tell me. So to me, that also adds to the validity of my experience.

So because of that, whenever people claim that they saw Jesus or that they saw something supernatural, because of my personal experience of being a hand witness to my own born again "ceremony" if you will, the very night I repented and came to God, I believe them. Yes, some of them are probably lies but, not every single one of them are like mine. God is still appearing to people like he did in the past, he didn't just stop because he died ascended to heaven and then... that's it. Or because he appeared to Paul and that was his last appearance. Paul said before he died that God was appearing to people around the world AFTER he had his own personal encoutner with God. Like I said, my own personal experience could have ONLY come from God. There was no other explanation. The only other explanation was that it was a deception from Satan and to say that is to be on line with the pharisees who committed the unforgivable sin. It was the VERY power of God almighty. Also, how could Satan regenerate me and cause a false born again experience? The power of Satan cannot accomplish that, only the power of God can. I'm sorry, you cannot convince me that it was a deception from Satan nor can you convince me that this person might not have gone to hell and back again or any other person might have gone to heaven and back again. When God wants to show somebody something, he can pull it off whether they're dead or alive. Or if you're clinically dead for several minutes, YOU'RE DEAD! So of course it's possible for people to see things from the world over. I'm not saying every experience is authentic I'm just saying, it's possible.

I don’t think anyone is going to challenge whether your personal experience was genuine or not, but there’s enough in what he said to cause reasonable doubt. Reptilian beings.... that’s the stuff of Hollywood. Fears, excitements, expectations, imaginings, fantasies can bottle up in our subconscious and be released through dreams.
 
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This isn't an NDE; it's a dream.
A dream or a vision. I agree.

However, for those that think it's rubbish or fake or nonsense... What do you have as proof of that view?

Many have actually physically died and doctors have confirmed it.. These people have seen things that changed their lives. Biblical things...

Now, some will say "nonsense".. but what do they have to back up their denial?
 
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Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind.
Colossians 2:18
 
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If you've been "sucked out of your body" and are in a "prison cell" this means you are astral projecting and seeing a psychological representation of something, it's not hell.

This definitely fits under the description of vain visions.

Astral projecting falls under the occult, so saying this is the real deal, would kind of be saying that the idea of hell came from occultists infiltrating the church - which is not a common belief.
 
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Neostar- thank you for sharing your experience, with so many willing to to rail against the op video there must be truth and value to it. I notice none of the criticism's reference having taken it to the Lord for His guidance, which we are required.
best wishes
 
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I don’t think anyone is going to challenge whether your personal experience was genuine or not, but there’s enough in what he said to cause reasonable doubt. Reptilian beings.... that’s the stuff of Hollywood. Fears, excitements, expectations can bottle up in our subconscious and be released through dreams.

Speaking of the reptilian beings, I don't think the bible ever mentioned that. It mentioned the lake of fire (from reading other people's comments) and the gnashing teeth. But nothing about reptile creatures
 
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Neostar- thank you for sharing your experience, with so many willing to to rail against the op video there must be truth and value to it. I notice none of the criticism's reference having taken it to the Lord for His guidance, which we are required.
best wishes

Can’t see the rationality in your argument here. Many of us have walked with The Lord Jesus over many years and have learned about His character and nature, and what He will approve or disapprove....we don’t need to go and ask Him!
 
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Speaking of the reptilian beings, I don't think the bible ever mentioned that. It mentioned the lake of fire (from reading other people's comments) and the gnashing teeth. But nothing about reptile creatures

The ‘gnashing of teeth’ is from those that are thrown into the hell dungeon.... but we of faith and trust in Jesus won’t be sent there. The person in the video may have had a memorable experience, but it wouldn’t have been had actually in hell. But really, I don’t think that person’s experience, whether it be real or fake, would warrant much discussion...better to keep our minds on the positive and bathe in God’s goodness and grace!
 
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