Proof the Earth is Flat

[SeventyOne]

The Greeks knew that the world was round centuries before the Eratosthenes measurement.

In fact, for 2500 years anyone who has looked at the stars with even a small amount of insight has known that the world was round.

These are false claims, but even if they were true, the faulty assumptions don't actually alter the reality that you are currently living on a flat earth. That's kind of the thing constantly being missed. For all of the posturing, wild claims, faulty assumptions, name-calling, and 'just because' statements the Globers around here keep throwing out for the past couple years, none of it alters the reality that they are deceived and still living on a flat earth. It's kind of surreal watching you all desperately try to hang on to your little fantasy ball world.

 

[Radagast]

the reality that you are currently living on a flat earth

For 2500 years we've known that it was actually a globe.

For example, this is Aristotle, writing about the Earth in around 350 BC (well before Eratosthenes):

Its shape must necessarily be spherical. For every portion of earth has weight until it reaches the centre, and the jostling of parts greater and smaller would bring about not a waved surface, but rather compression and convergence of part and part until the centre is reached. The process should be conceived by supposing the earth to come into being in the way that some of the natural philosophers describe. ...

... The evidence of the senses further corroborates this. How else would eclipses of the moon show segments shaped as we see them? As it is, the shapes which the moon itself each month shows are of every kind straight, gibbous, and concave - but in eclipses the outline is always curved: and, since it is the interposition of the earth that makes the eclipse, the form of this line will be caused by the form of the earth's surface, which is therefore spherical. Again, our observations of the stars make it evident, not only that the earth is circular, but also that it is a circle of no great size. For quite a small change of position to south or north causes a manifest alteration of the horizon. There is much change, I mean, in the stars which are overhead, and the stars seen are different, as one moves northward or southward. Indeed there are some stars seen in Egypt and in the neighbourhood of Cyprus which are not seen in the northerly regions; and stars, which in the north are never beyond the range of observation, in those regions rise and set. All of which goes to show not only that the earth is circular in shape, but also that it is a sphere of no great size: for otherwise the effect of so slight a change of place would not be quickly apparent. Hence one should not be too sure of the incredibility of the view of those who conceive that there is continuity between the parts about the pillars of Hercules and the parts about India, and that in this way the ocean is one. As further evidence in favour of this they quote the case of elephants, a species occurring in each of these extreme regions, suggesting that the common characteristic of these extremes is explained by their continuity. Also, those mathematicians who try to calculate the size of the earth's circumference arrive at the figure 400,000 stades. This indicates not only that the earth's mass is spherical in shape, but also that as compared with the stars it is not of great size.

 

[Shrewd Manager]

That just makes me feel really dumb.

Glad I could make you feel at home.

 

[SeventyOne]

For 2500 years we've known that it was actually a globe.

Except, it's actually not, but you can go with that all you want. You've put zero critical thought into any of this, and that is obvious. I think we are done talking on the subject because at this point you are just a time-suckage to me.

 

[Lost4words]

Are you ever lost for words?

Obviously you are not 'shrewd' enough if you actually believe that the earth is a flat pancake hurtling through space!

 

[coffee4u]

This response is a prime example of someone still living within the lie. I answered all of these concerns in my response, but you won't see how it's all connected.

Earth is flat. That's your reality. Until you're willing to accept that you might have been wrong all these years, there's nothing anyone can do for you.

Answered where?

How do you know it is flat? All you said is that you know it is. You must be going on more than that.

You are linking it to faith, which makes this an issue of doctrine, what scripture do you use for your position?

 

[Shrewd Manager]

Obviously you are not 'shrewd' enough if you actually believe that the earth is a flat pancake hurtling through space!

Well you can stop worrying at that bone, old doggie, cause you're barking up the wrong tree.

 

[Jude1:3Contendforthefaith]

Geocentric Holy Church Father Quotes :

Geocentric Early Church Father Quotes (Long Read)


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[SeventyOne]

Geocentric Holy Church Father Quotes :

Geocentric Early Church Father Quotes (Long Read)


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Geocentricity is a step closer to realizing the earth is flat and under a dome.

 

[Tom 1]

I don’t see any ice wall.

 

[Radagast]

Geocentric Holy Church Father Quotes :

Geocentric Early Church Father Quotes (Long Read).

If you actually read the Early Church Fathers, you would realise that none of them taught a flat earth.

 

[Jude1:3Contendforthefaith]

If you actually read the Early Church Fathers, you would realise that none of them taught a flat earth.

Should we differentiate the difference between Geocentrism / the stars, sun and moon moving
VS
Flat Earth ?

The reason I ask is because The Holy Church Fathers Are Crystal Clear that the stars, moon and sun are what is moving not the earth.

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[Radagast]

Should we differentiate the difference between Geocentrism / the stars, sun and moon moving
VS
Flat Earth ?

Up until Copernicus and Galileo, Christians believed in a geocentric solar system, with a round (not flat) earth.

Suggesting that the Church Fathers taught a flat earth is false and dishonest.

 

[Jude1:3Contendforthefaith]

Up until Copernicus and Galileo, Christians believed in a geocentric solar system, with a round (not flat) earth.

Suggesting that the Church Fathers taught a flat earth is false and dishonest.

What are some differences between Geocentrism and Flat Earth then ?


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[Lost4words]

There is absolutely NO PROOF WHATSOEVER that the earth is flat. None.

 

[Radagast]

What are some differences between Geocentrism and Flat Earth then ?

Flat Earth = the earth is flat

Geocentrism = the earth is spherical and is located at the centre of the universe, as in this diagram:

 

[Jude1:3Contendforthefaith]

Flat Earth = the earth is flat

Geocentrism = the earth is spherical and is located at the centre of the universe, as in this diagram:

So, then do you believe Heliocentrism or Geocentrism ?


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[kiwimac]

The earth moves, it is not the centre of the Solar system and it is round. ALL proven by science. The Bible is not a science text.

 

[Radagast]

So, then do you believe Heliocentrism or Geocentrism ?.

Well, modern physics teaches that the universe has no centre, although a frame of reference can be centred on any convenient object.

But heliocentrism is more correct, in that the earth does indeed orbit the sun, and the stellar parallax predicted by Galileo really is observed.

 

[Jude1:3Contendforthefaith]

Well, modern physics teaches that the universe has no centre.

But heliocentrism is more correct, in that the earth does indeed orbit the sun, and the stellar parallax predicted by Galileo really is observed.

I respectfully disagree with you but it's all good.

I'm going to go with The Holy Church Father Writings instead of Galileo.

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