30+ Bible verses that support universal salvation

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Common sense says that the Damnationist claims about God are wrong.
But Damnationists have been brainwashed to believe them.
Even you see nothing wrong with a father locking his children in an oven and burning the house down, if that father was God. Why would that make it okay?

Does God have human "common sense?"

Isaiah 55:8-9
8 For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, saith the LORD.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts.​

Should everything about God be judged by fallible human reasoning or only the things which support certain heterodox beliefs?
But you guys see nothing wrong with a father burning all of his children alive; Sodom, Gomorrah and the cities of the plain..

 

[Light of the East]

Does God have human "common sense?"

Isaiah 55:8-9
8 For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, saith the LORD.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts.​

Should everything about God be judged by fallible human reasoning or only the things which support certain heterodox beliefs?
But you guys see nothing wrong with a father burning all of his children alive; Sodom, Gomorrah and the cities of the plain..

So you don't see the difference between a temporal chastening and eternal torture?

As for your utter misuse of Isaiah 55 --

First of all, you completely take those verses out of context!!!

Why don't you go back one verse and see what God is talking about. He calls Israel to repentance and then says that His ways are not like ours. That is, He is ready to have mercy on them. Why are His ways not like ours? Because our way is the way of the hellists and those who would happily torture their enemies forever. That is what fallen man does. Fallen man is a brute, a beast without conscience. All we need do is to look at pagan cultures and see how vilely they treated their own people, burning them alive, cutting out their hearts, unending wars of revenge. Even the Jews fell into this darkness as they burned their children alive in the fires of Baal and Molech.

Look at what Jesus said: Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. And how are we to do this? By loving our enemies and doing good to those who persecute and hate us - not cutting out their hearts, burning our children alive, or killing them in war. So when God says in Isaiah that His thoughts are not our thoughts, it can only mean that He would never resort to the kind of behavior that we have done for thousands of years. In short, He is BETTER THAN THAT!!!!

Of course, if you think that those verses in Isaiah are a justification for burning sinners in anguish forever, then Adolph Hitler was an absolute saint, wasn't he? After all, he was just being like the heavenly Father!

“Saint Hitler the Great”

 

[GenemZ]

30+ Bible verses, that either in isolation or in combination with other verses support universal salvation for non-believers to ponder and believers to enjoy, use and add to (I will then add them to the OP):


1. Luke 2:10
Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

2. Luke 2:30-31
For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,
Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;

3. 1 Timothy 2:3-4
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

We need to get into the context of that time in history to understand how that was seen.

"All people?"

Here is how it was manifested before that could become a reality by the Cross...

You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship,
for salvation is of the Jews. " Jn 4:22​

No longer will salvation be of the Jews! For now, its to be for all people! Any race!


Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

Gentiles were then invited in! All people! Not just the Jews!

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[Jord Simcha]

We need to get into the context of that time in history to understand how that was seen.

"All people?"

Here is how it was manifested before that could become a reality by the Cross...

You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship,
for salvation is of the Jews. " Jn 4:22​

No longer will salvation be of the Jews! For now, its to be for all people! Any race!


Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

Gentiles were then invited in! All people! Not just the Jews!

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The Netherlands has not rejoiced my salvation as far as I know.

 

[GenemZ]

But you guys see nothing wrong with a father burning all of his children alive; Sodom, Gomorrah and the cities of the plain..

Who said those were his children?

Jesus said...

You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out
your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not
holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies,
he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies." Jn 8:44​

Who is your father? Is Satan your brother now?

 

[GenemZ]

The Netherlands has not rejoiced my salvation as far as I know.

It must be that Dutch humor again...

 

[Dave L]

It's open to different definitions depending on your POV.
As I said, there are three biblical views of the final judgment.

It all spells eternal damnation.

 

[Dave L]

It is called the fall of Adam. The mass were made sinners. That mass of mankind, by the rectification of the Archegos & Prodromos are returned to the Author & Finisher new creatures.

Those fumbled by the fall are unfumbled by the Master Isous!

But most don't return and perish forever.

 

[Dave L]

You can be good till the cows come home. One does not come into the Living God by being good, it comes by being reconciled to Him through His beloved Son.

The identical many made sinners = the many made righteous.

But only the elect are saved.

 

[FineLinen]

But only the elect are saved.

Put on your reading glasses Dave.

"God is the Saviour of all mankind, especially those who believe/trust in Him. Command this & teach this."

I would be thrilled to express the vast difference between malista & monos & monon for you and the readers. Just whistle.

 

[Dave L]

Put on your reading glasses Dave.

"God is the Saviour of all mankind, especially those who believe/trust in Him. Command this & teach this."

I would be thrilled to express the vast difference between malista & monos for you and the readers. Just whistle.

Savior of all men = Jews and gentiles alike. Salvation was only of the Jews until the gospel went to the gentiles.

 

[FineLinen]

But most don't return and perish forever.

You poor lad: the Glorious One who produces leftover pieces of bread & fish after feeding multitudes, loses nothing.

No leftover scraps, and most assuredly the broken vessels of sin & despair for whom He is the at-one-ent!

 

[Dave L]

You poor lad: the Glorious One who produces leftover pieces of bread & fish after feeding multitudes, loses nothing.

No leftover scraps, and most assuredly the broken vessels of sin & despair for whom He is the at-one-ent!

You are missing all of the scriptures that speak of God's hatred for the wicked and his plans to punish them forever.

 

[FineLinen]

But most don't return and perish forever.

Dave: with the course in which your wee life is enrolled, graduation exercises will encompass apollumi with your diploma.

Fear not, you will be returning for an advanced degree!

 

[Saint Steven]

It all spells eternal damnation.

That's not correct.
Damnationism spells eternal damnation.
Annihilationism spells complete incineration,
therefore not eternal, but momentary.
Universal Restoration spells a return for all of creation
to its original form as God created it.

Revelation 21:5
He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” ...

Saint Steven said: ↑
It's open to different definitions depending on your POV.
As I said, there are three biblical views of the final judgment.

 

[FineLinen]

The manifold wisdom of God.

Manifold = polupoikilos =

Much variegation.

Marked with great variety of colours.

The manifold wisdom of God is expressed in a couple of words in koine all speaking of something more, yes much more like polupoikilos.

The radical pas gives way to polupoikilos and an expanse within Dear Abba flowing into inarticulate dimensions of His inner sanctuary of Himself.

" And so here I am, preaching and writing about things that are way over my head, the inexhaustible riches and generosity of Christ. My task is to bring out in the open and make plain what God, who created all this in the first place, has been doing in secret and behind the scenes all along… this extraordinary plan of God is becoming known and talked about even among the angels!" -MSG-

 

[Dave L]

That's not correct.
Damnationism spells eternal damnation.
Annihilationism spells complete incineration,
therefore not eternal, but momentary.
Universal Restoration spells a return for all of creation
to its original form as God created it.

Revelation 21:5
He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” ...

Saint Steven said: ↑
It's open to different definitions depending on your POV.
As I said, there are three biblical views of the final judgment.

Keep what you want. But eternal punishment is forever and is the lot of all except a few elect in Christ.

 

[Dave L]

Dave: with the course in which your wee life is enrolled, graduation exercises will encompass apollumi with your diploma.

Fear not, you will be returning for an advanced degree!

It doesn't matter what you choose to believe from Scripture. God saves a few and damns the rest.

 

[Saint Steven]

You are missing all of the scriptures that speak of God's hatred for the wicked and his plans to punish them forever.

You are missing all the verses about God's love for humanity and his plans to restore all of creation.

Which do you prefer? Death and destruction, or life and restoration?

John 10:10
The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy;
I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

 

[Dave L]

You are missing all the verses about God's love for humanity and his plans to restore all of creation.

Which do you prefer? Death and destruction, or life and restoration?

John 10:10
The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy;
I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

The entire world will be saved in the New Heavens and Earth. But most in this world will suffer God's wrath forever.