Democrats are the party of slavery

[Silmarien]

Did not say I have never seen a confederate flag in the south I said I don’t know anyone who.... You are talking about a party that was around for about a year, yes some went into the Republican Party. I am talking about the whole history of oppression from the slave ships to present day and the word Democrat is mentioned far more often pretty much exclusively.

Slave ships? The slave trade was abolished in the United States in 1807, and the Democratic Party was founded in 1828. It was originally the party of slavery (as well as limited government and state sovereignty, amusingly), but it was never the party of slave ships.

 

[Kaon]

I’m not trying to pander only stating facts and facts that very few people are aware of. Primarily history.

Many people know about the fluidity of politics, especially parties. Most presidents run on an extreme but "lead" as a moderate of their respective party. That is why I said it is insulting to keep repeating the OP as if it is entirely true without a shred of misleading information.

The fact that the party that aligned with Slavery wore the same badge as the political ones who claim to be for the progeny of slavery is neither here or there. That is just a change of moniker which happens every other political generation.

For example, today Republicans are seen as the party that seeks to bring back Jim Crow and/or slavery. The OP is a trope used very often to appeal to swing voters and black people in America during voting season. It has become so trite that it is now in the realm of repugnance - partly due to the audacity of such a sentiment in perfectly timed times.

The fact is that the last black person lynched in America was in 1981 in Alabama - when Alabama was considered a "ruby red" state. Blacks are still considered inconvenient by the republican party except to gain a vote - which will not go toward helping black people in America. But, they sure are useful entities when there is an election, or money to be made. This is blatantly obvious.

It would seem like an insult, at best, to blacks in America to continuously regurgitate the OP.

 

[tulc]

Must be an election year, these "No one knows how racist the Democrats history is! Let me inform you all!" threads usually spring up during those. Let me save you some trouble:
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I suggest people go through this list and instead of starting another of these how about if they find one of those and just post there?
tulc(just a suggestion)

 

[Christian Sonic Fan]

Well like it or not, we have a two-party system. If we don't want to support slavery or racism today, then which party is currently going to be more helpful? A party that largely abandoned it's support of slavery and racism over 50 years ago, or a party that is very actively promoting racism in the here and now?

How do Republicans support slavery and/or racism? You cannot say that Democrats don't when Republicans obviously don't either. In my opinion, I think a good majority of the country has gone looney and they think that X supports racism when in reality it's just a scare tactic and a lie to deframe Republicans. If anything, I know that I'm not the type of Republican that you're talking about, I'm a Republican of the time of Lincoln and I always will be. I'm registered as a Constitution party member because of this nonsense, but when I was a Republican I stood for what Lincoln did and what he thought. It kills me when people say "Oh, the parties switched, you're a racist, etc, etc." It makes my blood boil. I got tired of it so I changed to the Constitution party. But I know that I am not for a party of racists and I never will be. I hate the KKK, racist people, people advancing their race, etc. etc. I think people are just sensitive in today's world and they think everything is unfair or racist or upsetting or what have you. It gives people a headache who know that how they think is not true, aka having wisdom.

 

[ToddNotTodd]

Article of pike statue below comment.


Not sure why Democrat’s are happy about this statue coming down, its part of their heritage. I wonder if they (rioters) are even aware that the pike statue they tore down is one of the very person who their handlers look to for inspiration (masonic, planned parenthood, slavery). The confederates were Democrats, the confederate flag is a democratic flag, the US flag is the republicans flag of the civil war, slave owners were Democrats, the klan was created by Democrats to kill both white and black republican voters, Lincoln was a republican and the civil war was not about slavery but economic issues and oppression placed on them from the north, hence succession. Democrats in the south would write legislation claiming black men and women were 2/3rds humans and therefore could be property and traded or used in any way the owner wished. The abolishment of slavery was giving these men and women their God given rights back to them, Lincoln used this to draw southern slaves to him. President LBJ (Democrat) was quoted as saying after his great society plan went through he would (Democratic party) own the black vote for the next 100 years. Hillary Clinton called Robert Byrd (klan member a grand wizard) her mentor. Immediately after the slaves were freed the Democrats tried everything to keep black men and women oppressed this went into the 50’s and 60’s with segregation ect.... know as Jim Crow laws enacted by you guessed it Democrat’s. Both parties are off base regarding the American people but the Democrats ARE the party of slavery. The republicans ended slavery and Democrats were really ticked off about it and still are. By the way the reason LBJ gave them welfare was with the exact intent to destroy the black family and make them dependent on the government putting them back into slavery to ensure their vote. Did Obama do anything for the black community in 8 years? No he did not. Why? Because he is a Democrat. This list literally goes on and on. The media is filled with Democrat operatives who push their ( Democrat party’s) agenda. You are lied to constantly, by Democrats.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/20/dc-protesters-topple-torch-confederate-statue-on-juneteenth/

All Republicans eat babies.

 

[Hank77]

Someone forgot to tell Robert Byrd.

Robert Boyd didn't leave the Democratic party but he eventually apologized for his racist views. He spent 51 years as a Democratic Senator that's a lot of time for views to change.

 

[Christian Sonic Fan]

For example, today Republicans are seen as the party that seeks to bring back Jim Crow and/or slavery. The OP is a trope used very often to appeal to swing voters and black people in America during voting season. It has become so trite that it is now in the realm of repugnance - partly due to the audacity of such a sentiment in perfectly timed times.

I don't see where Republicans are the ones to bring back Jim crow laws. All I see are Democrats trying to accept everyone under the sun because they know that they messed up before so they are trying to lie, deceive, and pander to everyone and their brother just to get votes because they have no integrity. All they have are lies and falsity. Are Republicans racist for having common sense and not accepting some people? You know, those groups of society which are taboo? I see Republicans as having respect and morals for holding to those high standards. The Bible should do this all by itself but not everyone reads the Bible which is why we have these taboo groups to begin with. It's not a politicians job to give the OK to everything because God will judge them for being weak and hungry for power and votes.

 

[ViaCrucis]

South Carolina succeeded over economic issues being placed on them from the north. Slavery was an issue yes but was not the reason for the start of the war. This is just a fact man I don’t know what to tell you.

Have you read South Carolina's stated reasons for leaving the Union? I have. And the reason they did so was slavery.

Slavery wasn't an issue, it was the issue. Was there an economic angle? Sure, but you want to know why? Because South Carolina's economy was dependent upon slave labor.

Those are just the facts, man, I don't know what to tell you.

-CryptoLUtheran

 

[Christian Sonic Fan]

I want everyone to read this PDF. It came out in 2006 and it's the Charlotte observer. Note the fact that it mentions DEMOCRATS as the ones who did all of this, NOT Republicans.

Taken from the paper itself:

..."Through the Democratic Party, whites controlled the state and local governments from 1876 to 1894."...

..."these white Populists joined forces with black Republicans, forming an interracial “Fusion” coalition that championed local self-government, free public education and electoral reforms that would give black men the same voting rights as whites."... (me: "yay!)

..." They [Democrats] soon decided that racist appeals were the hammer they needed to shatter the fragile alliance between poor whites and blacks. They made the “redemption” of North Carolina from “Negro domination” the theme of the 1898 campaign."...

..."In Wilmington, the Fusion triumph lifted black and white Republicans and white Populists to power. Horrified white Democrats vowed to regain control of the government."...

And yet people tell me that me being a Republican means that I am somehow racist? LOL!

https://media2.newsobserver.com/content/media/2010/5/3/ghostsof1898.pdf

 

[ViaCrucis]

I want everyone to read this PDF. It came out in 2006 and it's the Charlotte observer. Note the fact that it mentions DEMOCRATS as the ones who did all of this, NOT Republicans.

Taken from the paper itself:

..."Through the Democratic Party, whites controlled the state and local governments from 1876 to 1894."...

..."these white Populists joined forces with black Republicans, forming an interracial “Fusion” coalition that championed local self-government, free public education and electoral reforms that would give black men the same voting rights as whites."... (me: "yay!)

..." They [Democrats] soon decided that racist appeals were the hammer they needed to shatter the fragile alliance between poor whites and blacks. They made the “redemption” of North Carolina from “Negro domination” the theme of the 1898 campaign."...

..."In Wilmington, the Fusion triumph lifted black and white Republicans and white Populists to power. Horrified white Democrats vowed to regain control of the government."...

And yet people tell me that me being a Republican means that I am somehow racist? LOL!

https://media2.newsobserver.com/content/media/2010/5/3/ghostsof1898.pdf

Yes, we know. This isn't some sort of secret history, this is well documented that in the 1800's and through much of the 20th century--until the Civil Rights era--the Democratic Party was the party of pro-slavery and Jim Crow. We know this.

And the Republican party used to be the party of Lincoln, it used to be the party of civil rights.

Then that changed. When did it change? When pro-segregationist southern Democrats left the Democratic party and the Republican chose its southern strategy to take advantage of southern racists and segregationists.

We know the history, it's not a secret. What apparently some people want to pretend didn't happen was the southern strategy, because it is an inconvenient fact that hurts the false narrative that some wish to push--including the narrative you seem to want to spin here.

Some of us actually read history books.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Article of pike statue below comment.


Not sure why Democrat’s are happy about this statue coming down, its part of their heritage. I wonder if they (rioters) are even aware that the pike statue they tore down is one of the very person who their handlers look to for inspiration (masonic, planned parenthood, slavery). The confederates were Democrats, the confederate flag is a democratic flag, the US flag is the republicans flag of the civil war, slave owners were Democrats, the klan was created by Democrats to kill both white and black republican voters, Lincoln was a republican and the civil war was not about slavery but economic issues and oppression placed on them from the north, hence succession. Democrats in the south would write legislation claiming black men and women were 2/3rds humans and therefore could be property and traded or used in any way the owner wished. The abolishment of slavery was giving these men and women their God given rights back to them, Lincoln used this to draw southern slaves to him. President LBJ (Democrat) was quoted as saying after his great society plan went through he would (Democratic party) own the black vote for the next 100 years. Hillary Clinton called Robert Byrd (klan member a grand wizard) her mentor. Immediately after the slaves were freed the Democrats tried everything to keep black men and women oppressed this went into the 50’s and 60’s with segregation ect.... know as Jim Crow laws enacted by you guessed it Democrat’s. Both parties are off base regarding the American people but the Democrats ARE the party of slavery. The republicans ended slavery and Democrats were really ticked off about it and still are. By the way the reason LBJ gave them welfare was with the exact intent to destroy the black family and make them dependent on the government putting them back into slavery to ensure their vote. Did Obama do anything for the black community in 8 years? No he did not. Why? Because he is a Democrat. This list literally goes on and on. The media is filled with Democrat operatives who push their ( Democrat party’s) agenda. You are lied to constantly, by Democrats.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/20/dc-protesters-topple-torch-confederate-statue-on-juneteenth/

Ever watch the movie "The Village"? Thats the democratic party.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

But you are right in the sense that racism isn't limited only to the south.

Racism ???????????
Some keep bringing it up so often that if others didn't know different they would think this to be a big factor these days.
It isn't.
M

 

[Oompa Loompa]

If Democrats are the CURRENT party of slavery, then why is it primarily Republicans supporting and flying the Confederate flag?

(I'll answer just in case you are unaware, but after the Civil Rights Act passed in the 1960's, the pro-Dixie Southern Democrats left the Democratic party and joined the GOP and the "ideologies" between the two parties did something of a flip-flop in that respect. So while Republicans used to be able to claim to be the party of Lincoln, that changed in a very major way once they allowed the influx of the pro-Dixiecrats.)

Ask yourself how a party who bragged about the diversity of their candidates nominated one of the oldest and whitest man running?

 

[Christian Sonic Fan]

Yes, we know. This isn't some sort of secret history, this is well documented that in the 1800's and through much of the 20th century--until the Civil Rights era--the Democratic Party was the party of pro-slavery and Jim Crow. We know this.

And the Republican party used to be the party of Lincoln, it used to be the party of civil rights.

Then that changed. When did it change? When pro-segregationist southern Democrats left the Democratic party and the Republican chose its southern strategy to take advantage of southern racists and segregationists.

We know the history, it's not a secret. What apparently some people want to pretend didn't happen was the southern strategy, because it is an inconvenient fact that hurts the false narrative that some wish to push--including the narrative you seem to want to spin here.

Some of us actually read history books.

-CryptoLutheran

I don't spin narratives, I speak facts which aren't twisted. Maybe you need to read this. I'll quote a few things from it. It's ironic because it's from a website called The Hill, a site known to hate Republicans (the ultimate irony )

"Nixon barely campaigned in the Deep South. His strategy, as outlined by Kevin Phillips in his classic work, “The Emerging Republican Majority,” was to target the Sunbelt, the vast swath of territory stretching from Florida to Nixon’s native California. This included what Phillips terms the Outer or Peripheral South."

"Upon his taking office in 1969, Nixon also put into effect America’s first affirmative action program. Dubbed the Philadelphia Plan, it imposed racial goals and timetables on the building trade unions, first in Philadelphia and then elsewhere. Now, would a man seeking to build an electoral base of Deep South white supremacists actually promote the first program to legally discriminate in favor of blacks? This is absurd."

"And how many racist Dixiecrats did Nixon win for the GOP? Turns out, virtually none. Among the racist Dixiecrats, Strom Thurmond of South Carolina was the sole senator to defect to the Republicans — and he did this long before Nixon’s time. Only one Dixiecrat congressman, Albert Watson of South Carolina, switched to the GOP. The rest, more than 200 Dixiecrat senators, congressmen, governors and high elected officials, all stayed in the Democratic Party."

"The progressive notion of a Dixiecrat switch is a myth. Yet it is myth that continues to be promoted, using dubious case examples. Though the late Sens. Jesse Helms of North Carolina and John Tower of Texas and former Mississippi Sen. Trent Lott all switched from the Democratic Party to the GOP, none of these men was a Dixiecrat.

The South, as a whole, became Republican during the 1980s and 1990s. This had nothing to do with Nixon; it was because of Ronald Reagan and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich’s “Contract with America.” The conservative appeal to patriotism, anti-communism, free markets, pro-life and Christianity had far more to do with the South’s movement into the GOP camp than anything related to race.

Yet the myth of Nixon’s Southern Strategy endures — not because it’s true, but because it conveniently serves to exculpate the crimes of the Democratic Party. Somehow the party that promoted slavery, segregation, Jim Crow and racial terrorism gets to wipe its slate clean by pretending that, with Nixon’s connivance, the Republicans stole all their racists. It’s time we recognize this excuse for what it is: one more Democratic big lie."

The myth of Nixon’s ‘Southern Strategy’

Do let me add this but who needs to read a history book?

 

[mala]

Just thought some may like to know. Everything I stated is fact. I know literally no one who fly’s the confederate flag and I live in the Deep South. Ancestors heritage and not aware of who they were I guess ignorance. Not all groups will conform completely the same especially over a large period of time. My post was more of a history lesson about the narrative being pushed which is not true. I spent 20 years in the far north and over 20 in the Deep South my experience is this, there are far more racists in the north than the south, I’ve seen it over and over again. Perhaps because there are so many Democrats in the north.

That's nice. Did you ever get past 5th grade social studies?

 

[Speedwell]

I don't spin narratives. Maybe you need to read this. I'll quote a few things from it.

"Nixon barely campaigned in the Deep South. His strategy, as outlined by Kevin Phillips in his classic work, “The Emerging Republican Majority,” was to target the Sunbelt, the vast swath of territory stretching from Florida to Nixon’s native California. This included what Phillips terms the Outer or Peripheral South."

"Upon his taking office in 1969, Nixon also put into effect America’s first affirmative action program. Dubbed the Philadelphia Plan, it imposed racial goals and timetables on the building trade unions, first in Philadelphia and then elsewhere. Now, would a man seeking to build an electoral base of Deep South white supremacists actually promote the first program to legally discriminate in favor of blacks? This is absurd."

"And how many racist Dixiecrats did Nixon win for the GOP? Turns out, virtually none. Among the racist Dixiecrats, Strom Thurmond of South Carolina was the sole senator to defect to the Republicans — and he did this long before Nixon’s time. Only one Dixiecrat congressman, Albert Watson of South Carolina, switched to the GOP. The rest, more than 200 Dixiecrat senators, congressmen, governors and high elected officials, all stayed in the Democratic Party."

"The progressive notion of a Dixiecrat switch is a myth. Yet it is myth that continues to be promoted, using dubious case examples. Though the late Sens. Jesse Helms of North Carolina and John Tower of Texas and former Mississippi Sen. Trent Lott all switched from the Democratic Party to the GOP, none of these men was a Dixiecrat.

The South, as a whole, became Republican during the 1980s and 1990s (. This had nothing to do with Nixon; it was because of Ronald Reagan and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich’s “Contract with America.” The conservative appeal to patriotism, anti-communism, free markets, pro-life and Christianity had far more to do with the South’s movement into the GOP camp than anything related to race.

Yet the myth of Nixon’s Southern Strategy endures — not because it’s true, but because it conveniently serves to exculpate the crimes of the Democratic Party. Somehow the party that promoted slavery, segregation, Jim Crow and racial terrorism gets to wipe its slate clean by pretending that, with Nixon’s connivance, the Republicans stole all their racists. It’s time we recognize this excuse for what it is: one more Democratic big lie."

The myth of Nixon’s ‘Southern Strategy’

And that supports the fairy tale that the Democrats are still the party of racism and slavery exactly how?

 

[Kaon]

I don't see where Republicans are the ones to bring back Jim crow laws. All I see are Democrats trying to accept everyone under the sun because they know that they messed up before so they are trying to lie, deceive, and pander to everyone and their brother just to get votes because they have no integrity. All they have are lies and falsity. Are Republicans racist for having common sense and not accepting some people? You know, those groups of society which are taboo? I see Republicans as having respect and morals for holding to those high standards. The Bible should do this all by itself but not everyone reads the Bible which is why we have these taboo groups to begin with. It's not a politicians job to give the OK to everything because God will judge them for being weak and hungry for power and votes.

Ok.

 

[Christian Sonic Fan]

And that supports the fairy tale that the Democrats are still the party of racism and slavery exactly how?

Maybe you need to look up what plantation politics is and get back with me and what party loves doing it.

 

[Quartermaine]

The point is to get people who are the progeny of slaves in America to believe that the democratic party - the party for which it is alleged that most blacks in America subscribe to - is actually the party of the party of slavery currently - since that was allegedly the party that was most aligned to slavery more than 100 years ago.

The black person would then say (if all works), "Hey! I hate slavery...I don't want to vote for a party attached to it!" This would drive the black person to assume and consider the current republican party as the real advocates for Blacks in America (since this was the party allegedly against slavery).

The crazy part is all of this is based on the assumption that black people in America need to be nursed by any party, and that black people cannot differentiate between the fruits of individual and/or many politician of their respective party. It is an insult, at best, to the target. But, people keep using it.

The really crazy this is your view is based on the assumption that black people are just to stupid they can't look at the record and the polices of a given politician and even if they did they obviously can't understand what is being said.

 

[tulc]

will just leave these here:

tulc(is going to get more coffee)