Ask God for Me

[miknik5]

I have read this book before. This is just encouraging to believe without evidence. I can believe Allah exists without evidence too. Also, showing us he exists will not override our free will. We could still choose to follow him or not but at least it would be an informed decision.

These evidences heavily rely on the bible which I am not convinced can be treated as a reliable source.

You aren´t close to an informed decision sir...because you do not even understand what you are saying...
You have the information, it´s just that you don´t accept what is given you and you are looking for another way...

No other way will be provided...


And had you understood the way provided, you would have understood and would not have wanted another way because you would have realized that there
couldn´t be.... another way...

 

[miknik5]

Blessed are those who have not seen and believe sir...

 

[miknik5]

Again, I am sorry to stress this but Allah is not the GOD and FATHER of our LORD. JESUS CHRIST..


There is only ONE GOD...and by sending HIS SON, HE shut the mouth of every lying spirit and HE makes the distinction between those who know THE FATHER...and those who don´t.

This sir, is NOT a threat at all...

It is a TRUTH...

For judgment I have come...NOW is the prince of this world cast out...

 

[miknik5]

That is a pretty poor system then when other Christians need to threaten others to make them believe.

Today is the day of salvation sir...and anyone who calls on the name of THE LORD shall be saved.

That really is a gracious system....

 

[miknik5]

Bingo! This is why I do not believe. But could God not convince me in some way? Could he provide the evidence I would need to be convinced?

You were a christian for 18 years. Would you be willing to talk about what you believed when you were?

You said could HE provide the evidence that you would need to be convinced?

The evidence sir, is you...yourself....that is the evidence....
And I am not talking about visible and physical evidence when I refer that YOU are the evidence to THE TRUTH...

It is the internal invisible part of YOU that should be the evidence.

And I am not talking scientifc words for explanations to our inner make up either...

 

[Clizby WampusCat]

Blessed are those who have not seen and believe sir...

Belief without sufficient evidence is foolish and can lead to harm to you or others. See anti vaxers, homeopathy, JW anti blood transfusion etc.

 

[Clizby WampusCat]

Again, I am sorry to stress this but Allah is not the GOD and FATHER of our LORD. JESUS CHRIST..


There is only ONE GOD...and by sending HIS SON, HE shut the mouth of every lying spirit and HE makes the distinction between those who know THE FATHER...and those who don´t.

This sir, is NOT a threat at all...

It is a TRUTH...

For judgment I have come...NOW is the prince of this world cast out...

And what is your evidence for any of this?

 

[miknik5]

Belief without sufficient evidence is foolish and can lead to harm to you or others. See anti vaxers, homeopathy, JW anti blood transfusion etc.

I want THE GOSPEL sir...that and THE FOUNDATION alone is sufficient...
Men who want to add yeast, and their own manmade additions to THE FOUNDATION will be dealt with by GOD...

There is only ONE GOSPEL, ONE FOUNDATION, ONE TRUTH...

 

[miknik5]

And what is your evidence for any of this?

THE TRUTH and regardless of whether one believes or does not...there is ONE TRUTH and ONE TESTIMONY...and many will testify...now...and later

 

[miknik5]

I am sorry...I have a meeting...I have to sign off...

I wish and pray that you would begin reading the GOSPEL for yourself....

Maybe John first...

 

[Clizby WampusCat]

Today is the day of salvation sir...and anyone who calls on the name of THE LORD shall be saved.

That really is a gracious system....

No it is not, someone must be punished for your sin either you are Jesus. That is not grace. God asks you to forgive others without punishing anyone but won't do that himself.

If you could convince me that this system existed, I would of course be a Christian because I would not want to be tortured forever.

 

[Clizby WampusCat]

THE TRUTH and regardless of whether one believes or does not...there is ONE TRUTH and ONE TESTIMONY...and many will testify...now...and later

I ask you how you know your beliefs are true and you just say I know it is true because it is true.

 

[Clizby WampusCat]

I am sorry...I have a meeting...I have to sign off...

I wish and pray that you would begin reading the GOSPEL for yourself....

Maybe John first...

I have read these countless times.

 

[cvanwey]

Are you kidding me...you have no idea what I have gone through therefore I can NOT change my stance...

Good to know

 

[cvanwey]

Furthermore, what is MY position?

Based upon your other response, it may not matter.?.? You already stated you are NOT changing your position.

But, from the looks of it, [your] position is as follows - "all creation is moving away from that initial (and perfect) state towards corruption and decay"

To my knowledge, the claims for 'evolution' has no 'end goal'.

In stark contrast to your claim above, what are your thoughts about macroevolution? Is it demonstrated sufficiently, as proposed by science?

 

[miknik5]

I ask you how you know your beliefs are true and you just say I know it is true because it is true.

I already told you... Now I am thinking YOU are just trolling. What I told you you should have remembered...

 

[miknik5]

No it is not, someone must be punished for your sin either you are Jesus. That is not grace. God asks you to forgive others without punishing anyone but won't do that himself.

If you could convince me that this system existed, I would of course be a Christian because I would not want to be tortured forever.

Someone had to open the way into the HOLY of HOLIES...

The SYSTEM existed as a picture and a shadow all throughout the OT and was simply to point us to what was to come and be fulfilled in the ONE planned from the beginning...

 

[miknik5]

Based upon your other response, it may not matter.?.? You already stated you are NOT changing your position.

But, from the looks of it, [your] position is as follows - "all creation is moving away from that initial (and perfect) state towards corruption and decay"

To my knowledge, the claims for 'evolution' has no 'end goal'.

In stark contrast to your claim above, what are your thoughts about macroevolution? Is it demonstrated sufficiently, as proposed by science?

evolution is a process sir...when all things come to an end, what will.....evolve from that?

To view it as a goal? That must be YOUR stance...but it isn´t mine

 

[miknik5]

I have one thing to say to you, @cvanwey

Thank you for at least not truncating my responses...
At least there is hope in that....

 

[Clizby WampusCat]

Someone had to open the way into the HOLY of HOLIES...

The SYSTEM existed as a picture and a shadow all throughout the OT and was simply to point us to what was to come and be fulfilled in the ONE planned from the beginning...

I am not too interested in your personal beliefs I am interested if you have good evidence for your beliefs.