With zero proof Joe Biden claims the President is going to postpone the election

[TLK Valentine]

since you addressed me personally,

Seems you have run out of facts on the thread and are left with suppositions about a poster. So sad.

What suppositions? The key difference is that you emphasized what Donald has said, whereas I instead focused on what he has done.

It was actually a compliment -- I was refuting (within the bounds of honesty) the allegation that you or any other Donald supporter had "compromised" their principles... you've told us what your principles are, and I won't engage in mindreading by assuming there are any others that are relevant to the discussion. Ergo, no compromise.

You're welcome.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Hi HL,
~snip
So, all I'm saying is that if we want to judge each of the contenders for the next election, let's do so fairly.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

Hi mt,

Many thanks for the history lesson and major talking points, always good to rehash things.

My children could have used you as a barrister when they were trying to get out of trouble for doing something by blaming someone else for doing something similar. We never allowed the “At least it is not as bad as....” defense.

That is most likely why I keep bringing up the topic of the thread instead of someone else.

I do like the last sentence that I quoted above, so let’s be fair shall we. Where is the non stop coverage on the major media networks? That would be fair.

Where are the investigators? That would be fair.

Where is the hourly scrutiny by 90% of the media? That would be fair.

Where are the reporters camping out in front of his home? That would be fair.

 

[Always in His Presence]

What suppositions? The key difference is that you emphasized what Donald has said, whereas I instead focused on what he has done.
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My mistake, can you show me where the President has postponed the election?

I certainly want to be fair to the media’s obedient supporters.

 

[miamited]

Hi HL,

I'm sure that if the issue does come to a hearing or some other similar legal proceeding, you'll get that fairness. In fact, if you google 'sexual allegations against Biden', you'll see that he's likely to get pretty much the same treatment. Just as with Kavanaugh, all of that didn't start until the allegations were made widely public.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

 

[Albion]

But the charge against Mr. Kavanaugh wasn't ever upheld. If you feel that Mr. Kavanaugh should not hold public office because there were such allegations made against him, then I'd expect you to also find Mr. Biden unable to hold public office because of a similar set of allegations.

Well, first you'd have to establish for me that they are "similar." So far, it doesn't seem that they are.

 

[TLK Valentine]

My mistake, can you show me where the President has postponed the election?

Your mistake, indeed -- the OP is about Biden's prediction regarding what the president will do.

Lacking a DeLorean or a TARDIS, I cannot show you that which may or may not happen in the future.

 

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[miamited]

Well, first you'd have to establish for me that they are "similar." So far, it doesn't seem that they are.

Hi albion,

Ok, I'll bite. How are they so different?

God bless,
In Christ, ted

 

[Always in His Presence]

The key difference is that you emphasized what Donald has said, whereas I instead focused on what he has done.

Your mistake, indeed -- the OP is about Biden's prediction regarding what the president will do.

Lacking a DeLorean or a TARDIS, I cannot show you that which may or may not happen in the future.

Then obviously there isn't much to discuss....

 

[Always in His Presence]

Hi HL,

I'm sure that if the issue does come to a hearing or some other similar legal proceeding, you'll get that fairness. In fact, if you google 'sexual allegations against Biden', you'll see that he's likely to get pretty much the same treatment. Just as with Kavanaugh, all of that didn't start until the allegations were made widely public.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

By this time in the Kavanugh episode, there was so much coverage that it was almost non stop news, I believe this was the point where he had to hire security for himself and his family.

It was hardly mentioned on the Sunday shows and doesn't get spoken of 1/100th as much. I don't believe it will ever be allowed to be "widley public".

That is my point.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Then obviously there isn't much to discuss....

Clearly not --although the OP did think to title this thread "with zero proof..." as though a prediction could be "proven."

Perhaps the OP should have read "with zero basis..." and that would have led to a much more accurate line of discussion.

Because while it's true that Donald cannot Constitutionally postpone the election, Biden certainly believes that Donald will at least attempt to do so. Now, IMO, Donald would have to be an utterly narcissistic authoritarian megalomaniac to even consider such a course of action, let alone attempt it. Clearly Biden considers Donald to be just such a person. But on what basis?

We could, if we were so inclined, take a look at Donald's past public words and deeds to determine if such an unflattering assessment of his character is in any way accurate.

 

[whatbogsends]

By this time in the Kavanugh episode, there was so much coverage that it was almost non stop news, I believe this was the point where he had to hire security for himself and his family.

It was hardly mentioned on the Sunday shows and doesn't get spoken of 1/100th as much. I don't believe it will ever be allowed to be "widley public".

That is my point.

Too funny. You guys love to go on and on about how Fox News gets the most ratings, and I guarantee you that the Biden allegations are aired a ton on Fox. Similarly during the Kavanaugh hearings, Fox News was constantly attacking Kavanaugh's accusers.

You can't simultaneously claim that Fox News gets the highest ratings and only what the liberal news outlets gets disseminated to the public. I guess, technically, you can claim those two things simultaneously, but they're contradictory claims.

 

[Kentonio]

My children could have used you as a barrister when they were trying to get out of trouble for doing something by blaming someone else for doing something similar. We never allowed the “At least it is not as bad as....” defense.

Ah yes, you’d never stoop so low as to try and deflect a criticism of Trump by referring to something Obama or Clinton did! No sirree, that would never ever happen on your watch!

 

[disciple Clint]

Hi dC,

Thanks for the info. Now, shall we stack those 'allegations' up against the 'allegations' made against Donald Trump? I mean you've apparently gotten your panties in a wad about some unproven allegations that, so far, have certainly not merited any legal repercussions. Against a man who has had probably three times as many similar type allegations. We even have testimony from his attorney that he paid off a porn star with whom he did receive services. I'm really not following your logic here that says Mr. Biden is somehow unworthy of public service because he spoke inappropriately to a couple of women throughout his career, yet the current resident at 1600 Penn. Ave apparently is, even though he's had sexual relations with a porn star, seduced at least 2 women that cost him 2 marriages and has probably triple the number of sexual complaints that are similar to what Biden's had.

Really? You want me to believe that you're a reasonably intelligent human being and that there is some merit to this balderdash that you're crowing about that's come out against Biden when there is literally a flood gate of similar complaints, and worse, against Donald Trump. Come on man. You're wasting valuable time and energy trying to sell me that dolled up pig. I honestly have a hard time believing that you really believe in your heart that what you're trying to sell me is even a worthy argument.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

The accusations against Trump have been investigated and found to be lacking in evidence and unproven. It is not unusual for wealthy people to be exploited for money nor is it unusual for them to settle cases simply because it is far less expensive to settle than to defend a frivolous complaint. We do not know how many complaints there are against Biden that have yet to come to light and may never for various reasons. We know that this is not the only incident where Biden caused a female to complain about his conduct. I do not think that a physical sexual assault can be dismissed as ' speaking inappropriately to a couple of women" but apparently you think it is no big deal. I would suggest that if it was your daughter that he overpowered and placed his fingers where they should never go you might feel a little differently. Note also that there is little doubt about this having happened since there is a police report and several people verify that she discussed this with them shortly after the assault. There is reason to question the Porn Star and her attorney as to the motivation for their complaint. Do I need to remind you that her attorney was far less than reputable and in fact turned out to be a criminal. Obviously your support for Biden is beyond reason. Your attempt to rationalize his behavior is more than sufficient proof. This is just the beginning of the things that will come to light about Biden and the administration that he was a part of. He may attempt to deny any knowledge of what went on but I do not think that the public is going to accept that on one hand he wants to claim credit for his participation in the administration and on the other he wants to deny responsibility for it. Why is it that the same people who condemn Trump for being a divider, encouraging hate, and being disrespectful seem to find it necessary to insult, ridicule, and demean those who post here? Just a couple of thoughts. 1. it is a sign of maturity and intelligence to disagree without being disagreeable. 2. Age is not synonymous with wisdom.

 

[disciple Clint]

Hi HL,

I absolutely agree with that and if verifiable proof comes out I would expect Mr. Biden to pay a price. However, let's do keep in mind that this entire story that dC has quoted from BBC news is almost a mirror image to the claim and testimony against SCJ Brett Kavanaugh. 30 years old, no real report of the incident, some friends who were privy to the account when it happened. So, is the account of the sexual misconduct true or not? Then we have the fact that it is a 30 year old report. I'm 64, I know that I've changed as regards some things I would have done 30 years ago that I wouldn't even think of doing today.

I can remember in my 30's being with friends and drinking pretty heavily and not even knowing how I got in my bed a couple of times. I can remember times of snorting cocaine and taking other drugs on many, many occasions. But I'm not that same man today. I haven't had a drink or any kind of illegal narcotic in at least 20 years.

So, let's say that Mr. Biden did back this woman up against the wall in 1993. Let's say that he did put his hand up her skirt. While that was certainly bad behavior in it's day, is there really anyone who believes that Mr. Biden still acts that way? Is it impossible that in the last 25 years or so he has matured and wizened some? However, let's also keep in mind that these are just allegations being made that are pretty much exactly like previous allegations made and those allegations were never supported.

But, my point with dC is that he's trying to paint these issues and allegations against Mr. Biden as making him an unworthy man to hold public office. Yet apparently gives full support to the man who is now in public office whose history of such issues is greater and much newer. Stormy Daniels alleges a sexual tryst with Donald Trump in 2006 and it was only in the last few years that she received a large settlement to keep her mouth shut, which has been verified by Mr. Trump's own attorney. Now, I understand that none of that has gone anywhere legally, but still, it's hard to say, with a straight face that these sexual allegations even come close to what Mr. Biden did 25+ years ago. We know for a fact and Donald Trump's wives and ex-wives have confirmed that he was playing the 'Playboy' image when he was married to Ivanka. They wound up getting divorced because of his sexual improprieties. I mean, really, if you want to judge by God's standard, while the issue with Biden isn't good, the issue with Trump is condemned by God! God hates divorce and Donald Trump has done that twice and both times while having sexual relations with women who were not his wife at the time, although he was married.

So, all I'm saying is that if we want to judge each of the contenders for the next election, let's do so fairly.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

I am compelled to clear up one major misunderstanding. There is absolutely nothing similar in the allegations against Kavanaugh and those against Biden. In the case of Biden we have documented prior inappropriate behavior. None of the allegations of prior inappropriate behavior against Kavanaugh could be verified. In the case of Biden we have people (democrats even) who can verify that they were told about the sexual assault shortly after it happened. We also have a police report and a complaint that was filed by the victim with her employer. In the kavanaugh case we have no witnesses with verifiable testimony or any reports. The only witness is the victim who was politically active, outspoken and had plenty of reasons and motivation to keep a pro life deeply religious Catholic off of the S.C. Her testimony was vague did not provide ANY verifiable facts and seemed to change from day to day. She was unable to recall events that had occurred over the past 30 days and yet was asking to be believed about events that happened years and years ago. Kavanaugh's reputation was without blemish, not so with Biden. In the Kavanaugh case we have a political assassination attempt, in the Biden case we have his past catching up with him. I won't address the differences in the treatment by the press or the Democrats because it is so blatantly biased that no comment is needed.

 

[KCfromNC]

This thread is hilarious. The people who have given Trump a pass with 20+ allegations against him are livid that their political party isn't up in arms over their candidate who has 1 allegation against him.

It's as if they're worried about the sticks in their opponents eyes and ignoring the planks in their own.

Nah, there are a bunch of threads advocating for also removing Donald from the ticket because of sexual assault allegations. I mean, there must be if this is such a serious issue. There must be. Somewhere.

Anyone?

 

[Always in His Presence]

Too funny. You guys love to go on and on about how Fox News gets the most ratings, and I guarantee you that the Biden allegations are aired a ton on Fox. Similarly during the Kavanaugh hearings, Fox News was constantly attacking Kavanaugh's accusers.

You can't simultaneously claim that Fox News gets the highest ratings and only what the liberal news outlets gets disseminated to the public. I guess, technically, you can claim those two things simultaneously, but they're contradictory claims.

Pssst…. I don't watch FOX News - I don't have cable TV - I don't believe in paying for television.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Nah, there are a bunch of threads advocating for also removing Donald from the ticket because of sexual assault allegations. I mean, there must be if this is such a serious issue. There must be. Somewhere.

Anyone?

Did you sleep through 2016?

 

[Kentonio]

There is reason to question the Porn Star and her attorney as to the motivation for their complaint. Do I need to remind you that her attorney was far less than reputable and in fact turned out to be a criminal.

Do we need to remind you that Trump's personal lawyer from that time also turned out to be a criminal and is currently serving jail time?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Too funny. You guys love to go on and on about how Fox News gets the most ratings, and I guarantee you that the Biden allegations are aired a ton on Fox. Similarly during the Kavanaugh hearings, Fox News was constantly attacking Kavanaugh's accusers.

You can't simultaneously claim that Fox News gets the highest ratings and only what the liberal news outlets gets disseminated to the public. I guess, technically, you can claim those two things simultaneously, but they're contradictory claims.

“To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself -- that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved the use of doublethink.”