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With zero proof Joe Biden claims the President is going to postpone the election

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Hi dC,

Well, thanks for the warning, but while we're all waiting for the 'supposed' facts that are coming to light, we already have the light of the facts regarding 'who' Donald Trump is. Look, I get it! You like the man. You approve of who he is. Fine! I happen to be one who doesn't share your appreciation for 'who' he is.

I've said it before and I'll say it as often as it needs to be said. I find the made wildly egotistical beyond the measure of pretty much anyone I've ever known in my entire life and I'm 64 and I've known a lot of people. I find the man a boor. He has no respect for others. His singular and regular method of dealing with people who don't agree with him is to denigrate them and call them mean and demeaning names. You approve of that. I don't! He treats others like a petulant three year old. You approve of that. I don't.

I'm voting for someone as president to represent the nation in which I live who is respectful. I am not looking for anyone who is perfect...Jesus isn't running. Maybe Mr. Biden does have some skeletons in his closet. I can't remember the last time we had a national election where there weren't skeletons to be unearthed. Can you? It's just the way that politics, especially on the national level, have become.

So look, when any real dirt comes in, you be sure and point it out to me and I'll look into it and perhaps change my mind. However, it would have to be a pretty egregious issue to overcome my supporting an egotistical boor as the better alternative.

God bless,
In Christ, ted
Tara Reade: What are the sex attack allegations against Joe Biden?
 
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I forgot to ask by the way, what would your position be if Trump did try to postpone the election? Would you continue to support him?

I've stated a number of times, and I'll state it again. I didn't support Trump until it came to him versus Hillary. I would rather vote for a gopher with rabies than vote for her. The main reason I speak about the President is because of the sheer ridiculousness (IMHO), of everything he does is wrong.

For those reasons, I find the question without merit and on the level of "What would you do if you find out the President is actually a baked potato, would you still support him"?

The answer to each hypothetical question is simple really -

Who is better for Conservatives? Who is strong on border, strong on defense, strong on abortion opposition, strong on businesses and low taxes?

There is no one on the left that comes close to fitting that. So I guess I'd vote for a potato over Biden.
 
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I've stated a number of times, and I'll state it again. I didn't support Trump until it came to him versus Hillary. I would rather vote for a gopher with rabies than vote for her. The main reason I speak about the President is because of the sheer ridiculousness (IMHO), of everything he does is wrong.

For those reasons, I find the question without merit and on the level of "What would you do if you find out the President is actually a baked potato, would you still support him"?

The answer to each hypothetical question is simple really -

Who is better for Conservatives? Who is strong on border, strong on defense, strong on abortion opposition, strong on businesses and low taxes?

There is no one on the left that comes close to fitting that. So I guess I'd vote for a potato over Biden.

I’m just curious whether there is actually any principle or ideal that you’d put ahead of your blind support for this president, so I ask again: If he tried to postpone the election would you support him?
 
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I’m just curious whether there is actually any principle or ideal that you’d put ahead of your blind support for this president, so I ask again: If he tried to postpone the election would you support him?

First, contrary to your erroneous assumption, my support for the President is far from blind. Here, I quote it in friendly purple letters to get your attention.

The main reason I speak about the President is because of the sheer ridiculousness (IMHO), of everything he does is wrong.

Now combine that sentence with this one:

For those reasons, I find the question without merit and on the level of "What would you do if you find out the President is actually a baked potato, would you still support him"?

I find your question without merit - just because you restate the question with the addendum of an insult about being blind, doesn't suddenly make it of merit.

Now that I have addressed your query two times, can you please address the topic of the thread and tell me if Biden has ever apologized for or corrected his error?



 
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First, contrary to your erroneous assumption, my support for the President is far from blind. Here, I quote it in friendly purple letters to get your attention.
Now combine that sentence with this one:
I find your question without merit - just because you restate the question with the addendum of an insult about being blind, doesn't suddenly make it of merit.

Now that I have addressed your query two times, can you please address the topic of the thread and tell me if Biden has ever apologized for or corrected his error?

Biden didn’t make an error he made a supposition. Which you’d see if you weren’t blindly supportive of the guy in the Oval Office.

As for your other above points, they don’t even make any sense. I didn’t ask you a crazy nonsensical question, I asked you a very simple one that doesn’t involve any trickery and shouldn’t even be difficult to answer: If Trump tried to postpone the election, would you support that? It doesn’t imply Trump will do that, it’s just a simple hypothetical. Why are you finding that so difficult?
 
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Who is better for Conservatives? Who is strong on border, strong on defense, strong on abortion opposition, strong on businesses and low taxe.



There is no one on the left that comes close to fitting that. So I guess I'd vote for a potato over Biden.

That will pull in many, many Trump votes.
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Biden didn’t make an error he made a supposition. Which you’d see if you weren’t blindly supportive of the guy in the Oval Office.

As for your other above points, they don’t even make any sense. I didn’t ask you a crazy nonsensical question, I asked you a very simple one that doesn’t involve any trickery and shouldn’t even be difficult to answer: If Trump tried to postpone the election, would you support that? It doesn’t imply Trump will do that, it’s just a simple hypothetical. Why are you finding that so difficult?

Pssst.... you can make the "blind" accusation as often as you would like - it will not make it accurate.

Post #84 addresses your issue quite clearly - sorry you don't like the reply.
 
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I've stated a number of times, and I'll state it again. I didn't support Trump until it came to him versus Hillary. I would rather vote for a gopher with rabies than vote for her.

A pity the rabid gopher didn't run as a third-party candidate.

The main reason I speak about the President is because of the sheer ridiculousness (IMHO), of everything he does is wrong.

Not exactly the noblest of reasons to rush to his defense, but to each his own.

For those reasons, I find the question without merit and on the level of "What would you do if you find out the President is actually a baked potato, would you still support him"?

The answer to each hypothetical question is simple really -

Who is better for Conservatives? Who is strong on border, strong on defense, strong on abortion opposition, strong on businesses and low taxes?

There is no one on the left that comes close to fitting that. So I guess I'd vote for a potato over Biden.

And so Matthew 16:26 is answered.
 
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Pssst.... you can make the "blind" accusation as often as you would like - it will not make it accurate.

Post #84 addresses your issue quite clearly - sorry you don't like the reply.

Except it didn’t answer anything, and it’s frankly bizarre that you would have so much problem answering it. Is it because you’re afraid he might indeed do that, and then you will have to compromise your principles again?

You could ask me something like ‘what if Obama was selected as a VP or tried to run again’ and I’d have no problem saying that it would be utterly unacceptable and I’d oppose it wholeheartedly, so why do you find a similar question difficult?
 
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Hi dC,

Thanks for the info. Now, shall we stack those 'allegations' up against the 'allegations' made against Donald Trump? I mean you've apparently gotten your panties in a wad about some unproven allegations that, so far, have certainly not merited any legal repercussions. Against a man who has had probably three times as many similar type allegations. We even have testimony from his attorney that he paid off a porn star with whom he did receive services. I'm really not following your logic here that says Mr. Biden is somehow unworthy of public service because he spoke inappropriately to a couple of women throughout his career, yet the current resident at 1600 Penn. Ave apparently is, even though he's had sexual relations with a porn star, seduced at least 2 women that cost him 2 marriages and has probably triple the number of sexual complaints that are similar to what Biden's had.

Really? You want me to believe that you're a reasonably intelligent human being and that there is some merit to this balderdash that you're crowing about that's come out against Biden when there is literally a flood gate of similar complaints, and worse, against Donald Trump. Come on man. You're wasting valuable time and energy trying to sell me that dolled up pig. I honestly have a hard time believing that you really believe in your heart that what you're trying to sell me is even a worthy argument.

God bless,
In Christ, ted
 
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Hi dC,

Thanks for the info. Now, shall we stack those 'allegations' up against the 'allegations' made against Donald Trump? I mean you've apparently gotten your panties in a wad about some unproven allegations that, so far, have certainly not merited any legal repercussions. Against a man who has had probably three times as many similar type allegations. We even have testimony from his attorney that he paid off a porn star with whom he did receive services. I'm really not following your logic here that says Mr. Biden is somehow unworthy of public service because he spoke inappropriately to a couple of women throughout his career, yet the current resident at 1600 Penn. Ave apparently is, even though he's had sexual relations with a porn star, seduced at least 2 women that cost him 2 marriages and has probably triple the number of sexual complaints that are similar to what Biden's had.

Really?
You want me to believe that you're a reasonably intelligent human being and that there is some merit to this balderdash that you're crowing about that's come out against Biden when there is literally a flood gate of similar complaints, and worse, against Donald Trump. Come on man. You're wasting valuable time and energy trying to sell me that dolled up pig. I honestly have a hard time believing that you really believe in your heart that what you're trying to sell me is even a worthy argument.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

Hi Mt,

When my children were growing up and one of the six did something wrong, we held them responsible for their own actions. What Biden is accused of is neither exacerbated, nor diminished by what someone else has done, or is accused of doing.

If the very best one has is to say, well, so and so did the same thing..... that isn't much of a defense IMHO. Using the verbiage you did in the post above, also does not bolster a particular position. Many times both are indications of the lack of ability to defend an action.

 
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Except it didn’t answer anything, and it’s frankly bizarre that you would have so much problem answering it. Is it because you’re afraid he might indeed do that, and then you will have to compromise your principles again?

You could ask me something like ‘what if Obama was selected as a VP or tried to run again’ and I’d have no problem saying that it would be utterly unacceptable and I’d oppose it wholeheartedly, so why do you find a similar question difficult?

My apologies for not being able to adequately express my thoughts in a manner understandable. I find that if something is posted twice, a third time is not useful. Have a great day! Be safe.
 
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you've apparently gotten your panties in a wad






about some unproven allegations that, so far, have certainly not merited any legal repercussions. Against a man who has had probably three times as many similar type allegations. We even have testimony from his attorney that he paid off a porn star with whom he did receive services. I'm really not following your logic here that says Mr. Biden is somehow unworthy of public service because he spoke inappropriately to a couple of women throughout his career, yet the current resident at 1600 Penn. Ave apparently is, even though he's had sexual relations with a porn star, seduced at least 2 women that cost him 2 marriages and has probably triple the number of sexual complaints that are similar to what Biden's had.

Really? You want me to believe that you're a reasonably intelligent human being and that there is some merit to this balderdash that you're crowing about that's come out against Biden when there is literally a flood gate of similar complaints, and worse, against Donald Trump. Come on man. You're wasting valuable time and energy trying to sell me that dolled up pig. I honestly have a hard time believing that you really believe in your heart that what you're trying to sell me is even a worthy argument.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

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Hi Mt,

When my children were growing up and one of the six did something wrong, we held them responsible for their own actions. What Biden is accused of is neither exacerbated, nor diminished by what someone else has done, or is accused of doing.

If the very best one has is to say, well, so and so did the same thing..... that isn't much of a defense IMHO. Using the verbiage you did in the post above, also does not bolster a particular position. Many times both are indications of the lack of ability to defend an action.


Hi HL,

I absolutely agree with that and if verifiable proof comes out I would expect Mr. Biden to pay a price. However, let's do keep in mind that this entire story that dC has quoted from BBC news is almost a mirror image to the claim and testimony against SCJ Brett Kavanaugh. 30 years old, no real report of the incident, some friends who were privy to the account when it happened. So, is the account of the sexual misconduct true or not? Then we have the fact that it is a 30 year old report. I'm 64, I know that I've changed as regards some things I would have done 30 years ago that I wouldn't even think of doing today.

I can remember in my 30's being with friends and drinking pretty heavily and not even knowing how I got in my bed a couple of times. I can remember times of snorting cocaine and taking other drugs on many, many occasions. But I'm not that same man today. I haven't had a drink or any kind of illegal narcotic in at least 20 years.

So, let's say that Mr. Biden did back this woman up against the wall in 1993. Let's say that he did put his hand up her skirt. While that was certainly bad behavior in it's day, is there really anyone who believes that Mr. Biden still acts that way? Is it impossible that in the last 25 years or so he has matured and wizened some? However, let's also keep in mind that these are just allegations being made that are pretty much exactly like previous allegations made and those allegations were never supported.

But, my point with dC is that he's trying to paint these issues and allegations against Mr. Biden as making him an unworthy man to hold public office. Yet apparently gives full support to the man who is now in public office whose history of such issues is greater and much newer. Stormy Daniels alleges a sexual tryst with Donald Trump in 2006 and it was only in the last few years that she received a large settlement to keep her mouth shut, which has been verified by Mr. Trump's own attorney. Now, I understand that none of that has gone anywhere legally, but still, it's hard to say, with a straight face that these sexual allegations even come close to what Mr. Biden did 25+ years ago. We know for a fact and Donald Trump's wives and ex-wives have confirmed that he was playing the 'Playboy' image when he was married to Ivanka. They wound up getting divorced because of his sexual improprieties. I mean, really, if you want to judge by God's standard, while the issue with Biden isn't good, the issue with Trump is condemned by God! God hates divorce and Donald Trump has done that twice and both times while having sexual relations with women who were not his wife at the time, although he was married.

So, all I'm saying is that if we want to judge each of the contenders for the next election, let's do so fairly.

God bless,
In Christ, ted
 
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...I know that I've changed as regards some things I would have done 30 years ago that I wouldn't even think of doing today.
Oh, yes. THAT certainly carried a lot of weight with the lynch mob involved with the Kavanaugh hearings.

:destroyed:

So, let's say that Mr. Biden did back this woman up against the wall in 1993. Let's say that he did put his hand up her skirt. While that was certainly bad....
You're leaving out part of the story, aren't you? ;)
 
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This thread is hilarious. The people who have given Trump a pass with 20+ allegations against him are livid that their political party isn't up in arms over their candidate who has 1 allegation against him.

It's as if they're worried about the sticks in their opponents eyes and ignoring the planks in their own.
 
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It's as if they're worried about the sticks in their opponents eyes and ignoring the planks in their own.

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Many times it works the other way.
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Except it didn’t answer anything, and it’s frankly bizarre that you would have so much problem answering it. Is it because you’re afraid he might indeed do that, and then you will have to compromise your principles again?

In all fairness to Donald's obedient followers, it's not a compromise at all.

@hislegacy has been quite explicit regarding what's important: tough talk on the border, a blank check on defense, lip service on abortion opposition, businesses over people, and low taxes now in spite of exploding the deficit.

Anything -- absolutely anything -- that accomplishes or at least gives the impression of accomplishing these goals is perfectly acceptable.

You could ask me something like ‘what if Obama was selected as a VP or tried to run again’ and I’d have no problem saying that it would be utterly unacceptable and I’d oppose it wholeheartedly, so why do you find a similar question difficult?

No comment on running again, but if Biden picked Obama as his veep I would laugh... and point out to our allegedly strict Constitutionalist friends that it just might be technically possible...

The 22nd Amendment doesn't say that no person can be president more than twice; only that no person can be elected president more than twice... If Biden picks Obama as his VP, wins the election, then gives the shortest inaugural address in history: "Thank you... and I quit," then, technically, Obama will not have been elected to a third term, now would he?

I don't care where in the US you live, I promise you'll hear my laughter...
 
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Oh, yes. THAT certainly carried a lot of weight with the lynch mob involved with the Kavanaugh hearings.

:destroyed:


You're leaving out part of the story, aren't you? ;)


Hi albion,

Nice of you to join in the discussion. No, it didn't carry a lot of weight with the Kavanaugh hearings and I wouldn't expect that to be much different with this issue. But the charge against Mr. Kavanaugh wasn't ever upheld. If you feel that Mr. Kavanaugh should not hold public office because there were such allegations made against him, then I'd expect you to also find Mr. Biden unable to hold public office because of a similar set of allegations. However, judging by the tone of your response, I'm guessing that you do support Mr. Kavanaugh's holding public office in spite of the allegations made against him, and in fairness, I'd expect you to feel the same about Mr. Biden. That's all I'm asking is that we be equitable in our judgments.

I don't think I did leave out any of the story. I may have left out what it is alleged that he did while his hand was up her skirt, but his hand was up her skirt. I thought about putting that part in, but I didn't want to be sexually repugnant to the audience. Either way, the account, is a mirror image of what Mr. Kavanaugh was accused of, except that his accuser claimed that he got on top of her and at least attempted to have sexual relations with her. If you feel it important to put in every detail of the complaint, I'll leave that for you to do.

God bless,
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In all fairness to Donald's obedient followers, it's not a compromise at all.

@hislegacy has been quite explicit regarding what's important: tough talk on the border, a blank check on defense, lip service on abortion opposition, businesses over people, and low taxes now in spite of exploding the deficit.

Anything -- absolutely anything -- that accomplishes or at least gives the impression of accomplishing these goals is perfectly acceptable.

since you addressed me personally,

Seems you have run out of facts on the thread and are left with suppositions about a poster. So sad.
 
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