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With zero proof Joe Biden claims the President is going to postpone the election

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That doesn't happen, Pelosi would not be the President. It would be an interesting mess, though a horrible one for the US. Remember, all House members have elections in November -- without an election, Pelosi is not in Congress, meaning she is not in line to the Presidency.

It is an interesting Constitutional question what might happen, likely one that would have to be determined by the Supreme Court. It does appear Sen. Chuck Grassley could end up as President, until an election is held, as he is third in line (behind the Speaker of the House) and is not up for re-election until 2022 -- though you still have the question of if the Senate could convene for a new session (without the third of Senators up for election this year) and, if they are not, if that would disqualify him.

Actually there was a road to it, heavily convaluted, but something like president trump can't remain in office period without a re-election, the house would be returned to work by being chosen by some form or repersenatives forget which, the current make up would likly remain, then the speaker of the house would become president in lue of no one else there. The part I can't remember is, who votes for the house's repersenatives, might be govenors, or something but I forget heh.d
 
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Here is one possible explanation explaining Biden's prediction that wasn't included in the OP.

From the article...

The presumptive Democratic nominee latched on to Mr. Trump's earlier resistance to grant COVID-19 federal relief money to the postal service, labeling the move "un-American." On April 10, the postmaster general requested help, saying the service was at a "critical juncture" and faced a net operating loss of more than $22 billion over the next 18 months.

Not financially assisting the postal service, Biden alleged, would be one way the Trump administration could impact proposed expansion of vote-by-mail efforts for the general election.

"Imagine threatening not to fund the post office. Now what in God's name is that about? Other than trying to let the word out that he's going to do all he can to make it very hard for people to vote. That's the only way he thinks he can possibly win," Biden said.

Hi GACfan,

If the covid-19 social distancing rules are still in effect come November, how many people are going to want to stand in lines miles long because everyone must be 6' apart? Polling places that normally handle 15-20 voting machines may only be able to handle half that many. Trump is on record that he believes (thinks) that voting by mail will mean the Republican party won't win another election for the foreseeable future.

Honestly, I have to wonder why he would think that? Have the Republicans been cheating elections and won't be able to with mail in ballots or does he believe that it would allow Democrats to cheat the election? Honestly, why would mail in ballots have some great deleterious effect on the Republican side of the equation? Maybe Republicans are against buying stamps to support the post office? I don't know, but I'd be curious to know 'why' Trump thinks that mail in voting would be so disastrous for the Republican party.

God bless,
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Almost reminds me of the as yet never proven smear campaign against the Bidens that Trump, Giuliani and Fox News ran nearly all last year.

what does that have to do with Biden offering zero proof of what he is suggesting?
 
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You can’t invision a scenario where a president who could be facing 25% unemployment, a new Great Depression, potentially hundreds of thousands of dead from a pandemic and who wasn’t particularly popular even before all that started could possibly lose an election?

While that is, I am sure, the hopes and dreams of many. What does that have to do with Biden talking out of his hat?
 
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what does that have to do with Biden offering zero proof of what he is suggesting?

Hi HL,

I can answer that one for you. President Trump played the same game that you're accusing Biden of playing for quite a bit of last year. Without one shred of worthy evidence, President Trump, Fox news and Guiliani spun a story that the Biden's were somehow in cahoots with other nations illegally. So far, there has yet been one shred of evidence offered, other than the ranting claims of an obviously demented mind, that anything illegal occurred. Now, you're saying that Biden is making some claim against Trump without any evidence. I'm guessing you still won't see the connection.

Was that short enough for you?

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what does that have to do with Biden offering zero proof of what he is suggesting?
Just pointing out that both sides might be running dirty campaigns.
 
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He says he can envision a scenario where Trump thinks he can't win the election.

You said you can't envision a scenario where Trump would think that.

I referenced a scenario, from Trump's own mouth, where he thinks neither he, nor even any other Republican could ever again win an election.

Trump's remark about the possibility is the one thing I can actually agree with him about. I will say that after enduring 4 years of his administration, I wouldn't bat an eyelash if Republicans never won another election or at least not for a very long time in the foreseeable future. I think our country could use a few years to recover from the aftermath of Trump. I think the Republican Party could use a few years to recover from him. Maybe it can mend its damaged reputation with some concentrated effort.

 
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Hi HL,

I can answer that one for you. President Trump played the same game that you're accusing Biden of playing for quite a bit of last year. Without one shred of worthy evidence, President Trump, Fox news and Guiliani spun a story that the Biden's were somehow in cahoots with other nations illegally.
To summarize your point, Biden is no different from Trump when it comes to this kind of thing, so Biden should be given a pass but Trump should never, ever be forgiven.

Wanna think that one over awhile before making it be your final answer?. ;)
 
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Trump's remark about the possibility is the one thing I can actually agree with him about. I will say that after enduring 4 years of his administration, I wouldn't bat an eyelash if Republicans never won another election or at least not for a very long time in the foreseeable future. I think our country could use a few years to recover from the aftermath of Trump. I think the Republican Party could use a few years to recover from him. Maybe it can mend its damaged reputation with some concentrated effort.


Abscent the commentary that is the majority of the video. Trump was speaking of elements of the first bill that Pelosi and others packed full of pork and unrelated Social programs that had nothing to do with helping the people effected by coronavirus

listen to what the President actually says.
 
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To summarize your point, Biden is no different from Trump when it comes to this kind of thing, so Biden should be given a pass but Trump should never, ever be forgiven.

Wanna think that one over awhile before making it be your final answer?. ;)

 
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When the president has shown himself to be dishonest more times than most of us can keep up with, it's only natural to wonder what he will try next.

I was horrified to see that people who received their stimulus payments via direct deposit also received a letter from the IRS reminding them that it came from the president, and signed by the president. His name on the treasury checks and these letters our campaign fraud clear and simple. The stimulus checks and additional unemployment people received were not even part of his plan. He had to concede to them in order to get them Craddock support. Since the check went to those who needed it and those who didn't, it basically became a bribe from Trump. Trump basically saying vote for me I got you 1200 bucks.
Just when you think the bar couldn't get set any lower Trump still manages to disappoint.
 
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You can’t invision a scenario where a president who could be facing 25% unemployment, a new Great Depression, potentially hundreds of thousands of dead from a pandemic and who wasn’t particularly popular even before all that started could possibly lose an election?
Approval ratings for same period

Barack Obama 47 April 2012

Donald Trump 43 April 2020

Presidential Approval Ratings -- Donald Trump
 
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Would Donald repeat his thoughts that it might be a good idea to ingest bleach? Because I can imagine that for starters.
1. He did not say that.
2. This is way off the subject
 
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Hi DC,

You may be right. However, what President Trump 'thinks' is often led by his egotistical mindset. It often doesn't meld well with the reality of what is. For example: President Trump recently said that he thought there might be some cure for covid-19 by injecting ourselves with household cleaners. He also recently 'thought' that chloroquine, a drug used for the treatment of malaria, might also hold the cure. He says these things while pointing to his brain and telling us that he's much smarter than any of us, or any of the medical 'experts'. He's also been known to indicate his gut as the source of what he thinks. I personally believe that there is ample proof that what President Trump claims to think is far outside the reality of what is.

So, while Donald Trump the man may allow his ego to blow his understanding of himself way out of proportion to reality, some of his campaign advisers may well cause him to hold some niggling doubts about his ability to win. Just as the thread we are involved in is making the claim that some are making claims without any proof, there are some of us who actually try to understand the nature of the man and make guesstimates based on that nature.

Personally, I think that Biden, if he can overlook the empty threats that Donald Trump is so sure to make against him, could hold his own on facts. I also think that Biden's claim in this thread is based on his understanding of the nature of Donald Trump. Who he is on the inside.

God bless,
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The problem I see with your argument is that Biden cannot recall facts. He has an undeniable problem knowing where he is and why he is there. Also do not underestimate the things that Biden has hidden in the closet, he has some serious explaining to do. By the way this is what Trump said, "And as for the disinfectant, it kills [the virus] in a minute. A minute. I don't know if there is any way I can use it in an injection , almost as a cleaning. It might be interesting to look at it." He was pondering various possible treatments such as intense light etc, he was not suggesting that anyone should take it as a suggestion to treat themselves. Fake news has managed to twist this to the point that many think that Trump said something that he did not say at all. Also the University of Washington is testing chloroquine so the facts on the effectiveness or lack there of on this are not yet determined. Donald Trump suggests treating coronavirus with disinfectant injections | tellerreport.com
 
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I'm just not real sure that Biden could remember to say that.
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Yeah, like he's the dotard :rolleyes:
"Mark my words, I think he is gonna try to kick back the election somehow, come up with some rationale why it can't be held," Biden said during a Thursday evening virtual fundraiser.
Biden predicts Trump will try to postpone the election

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I'm just not real sure that Biden could remember to say that?
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Did you forget you just said that?
 
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The problem I see with your argument is that Biden cannot recall facts. He has an undeniable problem knowing where he is and why he is there. Also do not underestimate the things that Biden has hidden in the closet, he has some serious explaining to do. By the way this is what Trump said, "And as for the disinfectant, it kills [the virus] in a minute. A minute. I don't know if there is any way I can use it in an injection , almost as a cleaning. It might be interesting to look at it." He was pondering various possible treatments such as intense light etc, he was not suggesting that anyone should take it as a suggestion to treat themselves. Fake news has managed to twist this to the point that many think that Trump said something that he did not say at all. Also the University of Washington is testing chloroquine so the facts on the effectiveness or lack there of on this are not yet determined. Donald Trump suggests treating coronavirus with disinfectant injections | tellerreport.com

Hi dC,

We'll see.

God bless,
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To summarize your point, Biden is no different from Trump when it comes to this kind of thing, so Biden should be given a pass but Trump should never, ever be forgiven.

Wanna think that one over awhile before making it be your final answer?. ;)

Hi albion,

No, I'm satisfied with my position. However, all that you wrote about giving passes, those are your thoughts. I don't think you'll find any inference in my post that any one gets a pass. However, it's kind of like driving a car. If you get a lot of tickets, most people will know you as a bad driver. When you get pulled over the police will see that you're a problem driver in their pull of the DMV records. On the other hand, if you get one or two tickets, you're likely to be considered a decent driver and when the police officer pulls you over he'll be able to tell that unsafe driving isn't your normal. He may even give you a pass. I've actually been to traffic court a few times and for those who appear with the only ticket that they've had in 10 years, they often get a pass. So, whether it's fair or not, as a society, we often give passes to people who are acting outside of their normal practices. For those who are regularly acting badly, as a society, we can be pretty tough on them.

I'm hoping that you'll grasp the analogy without further explanation.

God bless,
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Hi albion,

No, I'm satisfied with my position. However, all that you wrote about giving passes, those are your thoughts. I don't think you'll find any inference in my post that any one gets a pass. However, it's kind of like driving a car. If you get a lot of tickets, most people will know you as a bad driver. When you get pulled over the police will see that you're a problem driver in their pull of the DMV records. On the other hand, if you get one or two tickets, you're likely to be considered a decent driver and when the police officer pulls you over he'll be able to tell that unsafe driving isn't your normal. He may even give you a pass. I've actually been to traffic court a few times and for those who appear with the only ticket that they've had in 10 years, they often get a pass. So, whether it's fair or not, as a society, we often give passes to people who are acting outside of their normal practices. For those who are regularly acting badly, as a society, we can be pretty tough on them.

I'm hoping that you'll grasp the analogy without further explanation.

God bless,
In Christ, ted
So do Democrats tend to give a pass to other Democrats and want to convict the Republicans as nonredeemable?
 
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