TRUCE --- Can We Let The 'NASTY' Politics Go Until The Coronavirus Is Over ??? POLL

[Mountainmanbob]

Seems there are a lot of us wanting to blame someone for the spread of the coronavirus.

Man oh man, if I was an alein that had just landed my spaceship in the United States and tuned into the news or social forums, I would think that Trump was responsible for this "Hot Mess."

Seriously -- we know that's not true.

Do you think this to be a good time for a truce and a time in which to love and encourage our Brothers and Sisters -- no matter which side of the aisle they appear to be on?

M-Bob

 

[Strathos]

The virus could kill of 99% of the population and the rest would still be blaming each other. It's human nature.

 

[MyLifeForChrist]

We will have a great difficulty encouraging each other/using this crisis to spread the word of Jesus even further if even our churches are not outside-the-box leading the way. I have tried to spark this conversation several times on the forum yet to no avail.
Christians at this moment are evidently more interested in embracing the idea of going absolutely nowhere at the moment that they would normally be fellowshipping/converting others in church. This crisis has become the devil's wet dream in terms of the above and 'reaching across the aisle to encourage' everything under the sun other than the repentant turn to Christ needed to endure.

Sorry, but I voted 'no' strictly due to my fellow countrymen (evidently) defining 'encouragement' as being kin to 'liking' their flock leader's cowering sermon on their FaceCrack account.

Get a Stealth wireless setup from Alto, a powered speaker and a leader who isn't afraid to lead your timid congregation....spread out on the lawn or parking lot or even in your cars...and 'encourage' (or heaven forbid convert) those who need it most at this moment.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

The virus could kill of 99% of the population and the rest would still be blaming each other. It's human nature.

I hate sin and it can be a battle.
I'm switching on the political Love button
until this Coronavirus is over.

She's so hard to please -- come together

 

[MyLifeForChrist]

Do you think this to be a good time for a truce and a time in which to love and encourage our Brothers and Sisters -- no matter which side of the aisle they appear to be on?

M-Bob

I hate sin and it can be a battle.
I'm switching on the political Love button
until this Coronavirus is over.

He's so hard to please -- come together

The problem being that the politician's creed states: "Never let a crisis go to waste!.."
So as they encourage you to politically 'hold hands' and to teach your children to do the same?
Stupid CONSENSUAL ideas from BOTH sides of the aisle overwhelm your ability to teach your kids anything in regards to what side of the political aisle that they should actually be sitting on most of the time.

The older generation has witnessed this crisis based 'needed change in attitude' played out time and again throughout history. The younger believe it is a great time to navel gaze politically and to spend their fast upcoming government hand outs at pot dispensaries to enhance the experience.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

We will have a great difficulty encouraging each other/using this crisis to spread the word of Jesus even further if even our churches are not outside-the-box leading the way. I have tried to spark this conversation several times on the forum yet to no avail.
Christians at this moment are evidently more interested in embracing the idea of going absolutely nowhere at the moment that they would normally be fellowshipping/converting others in church. This crisis has become the devil's wet dream in terms of the above and 'reaching across the aisle to encourage' everything under the sun other than the repentant turn to Christ needed to endure.

Sorry, but I voted 'no' strictly due to my fellow countrymen (evidently) defining 'encouragement' as being kin to 'liking' their flock leader's cowering sermon on their FaceCrack account.

Get a Stealth wireless setup from Alto, a powered speaker and a leader who isn't afraid to lead your timid congregation....spread out on the lawn or parking lot or even in your cars...and 'encourage' (or heaven forbid convert) those who need it most at this moment.

Some good points made but, I'm only in total agreement with Repent and turn to Christ.

Speaking of someone's unnamed timid congregation is insulting to the Church and it's members and Him.

They love to bash ones they don't even know.

Remember what Jesus said,
if not against us for us.

English Standard Version
But Jesus said to him, “Do not stop him, for the one who is not against you is for you.”

M-Bob

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

As long as we have the internet there will be Russian trolls trying to provoke and divide us with misinformation and extreme opinion. Do we try to correct or ignore?

 

[Jamsie]

Seems there are a lot of us wanting to blame someone for the spread of the coronavirus.

Man oh man, if I was an alein that had just landed my spaceship in the United States and tuned into the news or social forums, I would think that Trump was responsible for this "Hot Mess."

Seriously -- we know that's not true.

Do you think this to be a good time for a truce and a time in which to love and encourage our Brothers and Sisters -- no matter which side of the aisle they appear to be on?M-Bob

Perhaps you might convince the president to set politics aside. Anyone critical of his actions is immediately set into trump's vitriolic twitter attacks.

There is not anything wrong with being critical of the federal response as it is obvious the states have had to step up to deal with the lack of coordination and confusion on the part of the federal response. Just today - Kushner coronavirus team sparks confusion, plaudits inside White House response efforts The contradicting statements coming out of the WH, administration, and experts has not been helpful.

There is a difference between biased blame and justified fact based criticism!

 

[Mountainmanbob]

staff edit

Can't and won't respond at this time
doing MY BEST to
practice what I preach (truce).

At this time I'm going to concentrate on calming any fears of my family, friends and Church members. My wife has reached out and offered to bring supplies to ones in need and there are plenty.

One of her coworkers was recently told that her young husband with stage 4 cancer needs no outside contact at this time. They also have a newborn. Today my wife is going shopping for them and some of their special required goods needed are not easy to find.

I've reached out to two Churches offering whatever help that their members might need.

I know -- small step for mankind.

Poor me poor me poor me another drink
instead of complaining and pointing fingers
share a little love tiday.

It's happened pretty quickly
already many have lost their jobs
some businesses will never reopen
we need to think about them
give if we can.

M-Bob

 

[miamited]

Hi MM,

Since you jumped on the first person that voted no, I'll ask for clarification. Are you asking if I personally can let go of the 'nasty' politics during this time? Or, are you asking if we as a nation of people can let go of the 'nasty' politics during this time?

The answer to the first would be yes. While I don't approve of much about President Trump and his administration, I do try to be civil and not use derogatory and demeaning words concerning his presidency. Now, let me be clear that doesn't mean that I don't call a spade a spade. Yes, I believe that President Trump displays classic narcissistic personality and I'll say that about him. Yes, I believe that he often makes a point of calling people out using demeaning and derogatory terms and I'll call that out. However, I try not to return his words with the same or similar demeaning and derogatory terms.

Personally, I don't see responding or discussion in civil terms as 'nasty'. Being in disagreement or describing someone's personality or actions with civility, isn't my idea of 'nasty'.

The answer to the second would be 'highly doubtful'. Why? Because the President himself has built up a base of people who are pretty much like him in regards to how they converse and describe those who, like me, are not in agreement with him. He regularly calls people derogatory and demeaning terms and his base of supporters are pretty sure to repeat those terms when they too, are talking about that same person.

So, until the leadership of the party stops using 'nasty' words in discussing those who they feel are not in agreement with them, I doubt that we'll be able to stop such activity for any brief period for any event. That would be my vote in your poll.

Finally, we need your definition of what exactly constitutes 'nasty' politics. Do you mean can we all be in agreement? Again, not likely and I don't think that's ever been the goal of our system of government. That's actually why we have so many representatives in both the House and the Senate. All understandings and positions are allowed to be heard and then a vote is taken that the most popular is advanced.

Or do you mean just the angry and hateful rhetoric? While there is some of that on both sides of the aisle, again, I think it boils down to leadership showing the way before the people will follow.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Hi MM,

Since you jumped on the first person that voted no, I'll ask for clarification. Are you asking if I personally can let go of the 'nasty' politics during this time? Or, are you asking if we as a nation of people can let go of the 'nasty' politics during this time?

The answer to the first would be yes. While I don't approve of much about President Trump and his administration, I do try to be civil and not use derogatory and demeaning words concerning his presidency. Now, let me be clear that doesn't mean that I don't call a spade a spade. Yes, I believe that President Trump displays classic narcissistic personality and I'll say that about him. Yes, I believe that he often makes a point of calling people out using demeaning and derogatory terms and I'll call that out. However, I try not to return his words with the same or similar demeaning and derogatory terms.

Personally, I don't see responding or discussion in civil terms as 'nasty'. Being in disagreement or describing someone's personality or actions with civility, isn't my idea of 'nasty'.

The answer to the second would be 'highly doubtful'. Why? Because the President himself has built up a base of people who are pretty much like him in regards to how they converse and describe those who, like me, are not in agreement with him. He regularly calls people derogatory and demeaning terms and his base of supporters are pretty sure to repeat those terms when they too, are talking about that same person.

So, until the leadership of the party stops using 'nasty' words in discussing those who they feel are not in agreement with them, I doubt that we'll be able to stop such activity for any brief period for any event. That would be my vote in your poll.

Finally, we need your definition of what exactly constitutes 'nasty' politics. Do you mean can we all be in agreement? Again, not likely and I don't think that's ever been the goal of our system of government. That's actually why we have so many representatives in both the House and the Senate. All understandings and positions are allowed to be heard and then a vote is taken that the most popular is advanced.

Or do you mean just the angry and hateful rhetoric? While there is some of that on both sides of the aisle, again, I think it boils down to leadership showing the way before the people will follow.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

Good morning Ted
seems like you say yes then you say no?
You make the call for your house.

For me at this time while we are dealing with what looks to be a worldwide serious virus, I'm turning the blame political button OFF.

Don't tell anybody Ted but,
I love you man.
Bob

 

[miamited]

Seems there are a lot of us wanting to blame someone for the spread of the coronavirus.

Man oh man, if I was an alein that had just landed my spaceship in the United States and tuned into the news or social forums, I would think that Trump was responsible for this "Hot Mess."

Seriously -- we know that's not true.

Do you think this to be a good time for a truce and a time in which to love and encourage our Brothers and Sisters -- no matter which side of the aisle they appear to be on?

M-Bob

Hi again MM,

I think your post would make a great tweet out to all legislators and the President. Or perhaps you could email it to them, although there's no guarantee that any of them would actually see your email. As I said above, I think the way of the people is generally established by the leadership of the people.

Maybe you, although many have tried, could get the President to retract some of his derogatory name calling and actually appeal to all of us to turn away from that kind of name calling rhetoric to more honest and civil discourse. Gosh, it would likely go a long way for him to apologize for his past actions and tell us that he understands that it is he who sets the tone of many of his supporters and he'd like to change that in himself and see it changed in others.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Maybe you, although many have tried, could get the President to retract some of his derogatory name calling and actually appeal to all of us to turn away from that kind of name calling rhetoric to more honest and civil discourse. Gosh, it would likely go a long way for him to apologize for his past actions and tell us that he understands that it is he who sets the tone of many of his supporters and he'd like to change that in himself and see it changed in others.

God bless,
In Christ, ted

Ted I told you that I love you man but, seriously your post has me Really laughing to myself on this -- let us not forget -- God given morning.

I'm beyond all that my brother.
Actually, I just came up with my (little) best thought of my day.
I'm going down to Subway sandwich in a while and buying a few 50 dollar gift cards for ones that I know to be in need. One Lady that I know has no car and an oven that doesn't even work and she just happens to live right across the street from Subway.

Come on Ted join me
as we get out of self (it feels so good)
and share a little love.

Good thing my wife knows me well because, if she saw all of this love I got for you she might think that something is going on.

Have a blessed day,
Bob

 

[dqhall]

Seems there are a lot of us wanting to blame someone for the spread of the coronavirus.

Man oh man, if I was an alein that had just landed my spaceship in the United States and tuned into the news or social forums, I would think that Trump was responsible for this "Hot Mess."

Seriously -- we know that's not true.

Do you think this to be a good time for a truce and a time in which to love and encourage our Brothers and Sisters -- no matter which side of the aisle they appear to be on?

M-Bob

If Trump had ordered test kits and face masks earlier, we might be in better health. There are medications that help people recover. They should be imported. Mos

Wow just a few seconds ago I posted this thread and someone came in with a very fast no vote.

I guess that shows the condition of some?

Actually, sometimes I wonder if most of the hatred is actually fake and coming from some foreign country that wishes to bring the US down? I'm sure that they are closer than we think????????????

M-Bob

If Trump did not falsely accuse the media as much, there might be less nastiness in politics.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

What time is it right now in China and Russia?
Seems they work the internet 24 hours?
M-Bob

 

[Need answers]

The problem being that the politician's creed states: "Never let a crisis go to waste!.."

That's what i was going to say.

 

[Need answers]

If Trump had ordered test kits and face masks earlier, we might be in better health. There are medications that help people recover. They should be imported. Mos

If Trump did not falsely accuse the media as much, there might be less nastiness in politics.

Other countries have shortages too.

 

[Michie]

Seems there are a lot of us wanting to blame someone for the spread of the coronavirus.

Man oh man, if I was an alein that had just landed my spaceship in the United States and tuned into the news or social forums, I would think that Trump was responsible for this "Hot Mess."

Seriously -- we know that's not true.

Do you think this to be a good time for a truce and a time in which to love and encourage our Brothers and Sisters -- no matter which side of the aisle they appear to be on?

M-Bob

Lol! If there is anything that works here, it’s reverse psychology. Guaranteed opposite results.

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

Yes, I believe that President Trump displays classic narcissistic personality and I'll say that about him.

I totally agree with this but note that most men who are leaders share this. They can be brash, like a Trump or more reserved, like an Obama but everything gets pulled into their orbit. They are such hams! We put them in charge for a reason. They are willing, while we are passive and want to use them as strong men to go up against our foes (usually the other party and it’s competing agenda). IMO.

 

[athenken]

Now is not the time for a "truce." It is time for an all-out ceasefire and an actual effort from both sides to forget their own personal, and party, agendas and start doing what is right for this country. Get government out of things that should be in the private sector aside from high-level regulations (i.e., Healthcare, Insurance, banking, etc...). Stop undermining the Constitution. Stop supporting the wholesale murder of unborn children. Reinstitute the death penalty in all states for murder and rape convictions. They should only concern themselves with ways to protect this country from outside forces, not from ourselves. Promote personal accountability instead of everyone trying to get something for free. Abandon the idiotic notion that socialism will somehow benefit this country than the free market.