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President's Remarks at Prayer Breakfast

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Don't forget the 2nd Amendment, religious freedom, border security, election security, and everything else brought up in the SOTU address that nancy tore up in a temper tantrum.
In context, "religious freedom" is about abortion and LGBT. Gun control and border security are not Christian moral issues and for the Trump administration to be talking about election security is nothing but a sick joke.
 
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Don't forget the 2nd Amendment, religious freedom, border security, election security, and everything else brought up in the SOTU address that nancy tore up in a temper tantrum.


It's OK. It was only locker room paper.
 
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No, this is for Vindman being reassigned, and Mulvaney getting fired, and Romney sniped at, and...

...over an hour's worth of Trump's grievances yesterday. By comparison, Bill Clinton made a brief statement and apologized to the county.
 
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Hm, I would have thought it just would have required convincing evidence of him abusing the power of his office for personal gain. Not sure why it matters how close to an election that happens.
I understand that folks believe that what Trump has done is worse than anything that any other president has done in the history of the US, and he must be the first one to be kicked out.
 
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We all know his response is forthcoming:

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... sayeth the Lord Donald Trump!
 
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Sore? Trump and His "followers" aren't the ones who just went down in defeat.

Their morals are sore -- you should always stretch before twisting
 
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Hm, I would have thought it just would have required convincing evidence of him abusing the power of his office for personal gain. Not sure why it matters how close to an election that happens.

You would think the fact that he has a history of doing this exact thing would have mattered.
 
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While I understand his frustration and having to put up with the complete idiocy of countless investigations over the least three years, capped by an impeachment based on hearsay.

I don’t think it was appropriate to bring it into the prayer meeting.

Agreed. Trump has had a tough time of it lately, but there's a time and place for venting.

Sounds like today is the start of the purge, though. Vindman, his brother and Sondland. On top of others in the previous week or so.

(Not sure why Vindman's brother, but that's how it goes)
 
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Yes, that will be the narrative used by the MSM when the Bidens get investigated.

No, this is for Vindman being reassigned, and Mulvaney getting fired, and Romney sniped at, and...

Oh Sondland's fired, too. A million dollars can buy you an ambassadorship, but it can't buy you Trump's love if you rat on him.

An adviser to Trump said the firings of the major impeachment witnesses was meant to send a message that siding against the President will not be tolerated.
"Flushing out the pipes," the adviser told CNN. "It was necessary."


Sounds like vengeance to me.
 
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Then again, paranoia is usually all it is when someone believes someone (like Trump) is out to get them.

This is true -- Donald does seem to think a lot of people are out to get him -- I'm surprised he doesn't check his toothpaste for explosives.
 
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I guess the image of a prayer breakfast changed a little this week.

The image of the Christian Right and the Republican Party has changed in the last four years.

(and that's not a compliment)
 
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They don't have to twist anything. The only two moral issues they have are abortion and LGBT.

It's truly ironic to hear some conservatives judge and condemn Mayor Pete because he's gay and in a same-sex marriage. I mean, these are the same people who support a twice divorced man in his third marriage to his former mistress and he fathered five children with three different women. They have a moral dilemma with liberals supporting a gay man, but they don't have a moral dilemma supporting a twice divorced thrice married man, who paid off his porn star mistress to keep her quiet about their affair. Does "No one is sinless!" and "I voted for a President, not a pastor!" not apply to gay people?
 
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(Not sure why Vindman's brother, but that's how it goes)

Because Donald, in both his words and actions, has made it clear that he likes to go after his enemies' families.
 
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Does "No one is sinless!" and "I voted for a President, not a pastor!" not apply to gay people?

Ummm, no. You aren't just now realizing that, are you?

I will seriously eat crow if, were Pete Buttigeg to ever become President, I don't hear more than 5 occasions in the first few months of his term alone where a conservative relative or talk show host or someone like that doesn't express outrage over the fact that America has become so "morally bankrupt" and/or "turned away from God" that she dared to elect a homosexual as its leader.
 
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Ummm, no. You aren't just now realizing that, are you?

I was being facetious and pointing out the moral inconsistency that consists within that party. It once exalted itself as the political party of Christian morality and values, but that claim has been diminished in the last four years of Trump. I don't know if it will ever be able to restore its credibility and respect.

I will seriously eat crow if, were Pete Buttigeg to ever become President, I don't hear more than 5 occasions in the first few months of his term alone where a conservative relative or talk show host or someone like that doesn't express outrage over the fact that America has become so "morally bankrupt" and/or "turned away from God" that she dared to elect a homosexual as its leader.

QFT, Sarah.
 
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I was being facetious and pointing out the moral inconsistency that consists within that party.

Oh, I figured. I was just using it as an excuse to place my previous post, anyway.
 
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Because Donald, in both his words and actions, has made it clear that he likes to go after his enemies' families.

But isn't that how great men of power operate? It's like the old Soviet Union where if a family member was found disloyal to the Party the rest of the family suffered as well. This is just how things get done. A few innocent people get hurt but in the end the powerful man is able to achieve his goals, which, in this case, are the greatness of our country.

Trump is a "counterpuncher" which means if someone punches him they have to remember that maybe Trump will punch their mom in return. It seems like maybe a pretty solid and efficient means of getting what he wants and the rest of the country gets to reap the benefits!

Don't get me wrong: I feel bad for Vindman's brother, but now everyone knows that Trump will NOT put up with disloyalty.
 
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But isn't that how great men of power operate? It's like the old Soviet Union

Stop for a moment and consider the ramifications of what you just said here.
 
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