Julian of Norwich
English Catholic
- Nov 10, 2018
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Baptized with water, in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
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I won't express an opinion, since this isn't my group, but I've seen a practical case where this occurs. What do you do with an older child or young adult who hasn't been baptized, either because parents are not Christians or because the parents have baptist inclinations? In some cases it's not likely that they will be baptized until they're old enough to make an independent decision. But they may be Christian, and part of groups such as Sunday School or youth groups that participate in communion.That said, for the past decade, efforts have been made to change the policy in TEC to one in which anybody who wants to commune is eligible to do so. Some parishes already do this. But for those Anglicans opposed to this change (which will come up again at the next General Convention), it upends the logic which has recommended open communion AMONG Christians, i.e. people who have received the initiation sacrament of the Church universal, irrespective of denomination.
What do you do with an older child or young adult who hasn't been baptized, either because parents are not Christians or because the parents have baptist inclinations? In some cases it's not likely that they will be baptized until they're old enough to make an independent decision. But they may be Christian, and part of groups such as Sunday School or youth groups that participate in communion.
My church (PCUSA) has the same policy, for roughly the same reasons: open communion but only if you're baptized. I agree with the reasons: communion is for members of the Church. I don't think we want to invite everyone who might be visiting, nor people who are sort of vaguely Christian but aren't prepared to commit to being part of the Church. But I also think there are cases where someone actually is a part of the Church and for reasons beyond their control isn't baptized.
Older children really present odd issues. At a certain age parents tend to wait until they're old enough to go through confirmation class. It's not even clear how to baptize them. We recently had a family join, with a 12 year old daughter. They used what is effectively infant baptism. (She wasn't asked to take any vows.) That seemed really odd. I wouldn't recommend baptizing a kid that old unless she was willing to make a commitment, but I think if they take baptismal vows, they become adult members of the church.
I'd be inclined to avoid legalism and just say that if someone is a real member of the church and it's not their fault they aren't baptized, I'd include them. (Perhaps we could use the Catholic approach: baptism of intent.)
That’s true other than if that denomination is in communion with another denomination then parishioners can commune with either.Yes, they must agree to them but I thought with closed communion it was denomination only, regardless of whether you agree with the core tenants.
subscribingYes but the focus of my questions is how close do the doctrines have to be to qualify for fellowship? Just as an example there are confessional Lutherans who agree all essential doctrines for salvation yet disagree on a few non-essential doctrines and are out of fellowship with each other.
Coincidentally I just listened to the Didache last night. I think its a great peep hole into 1st century Christianity.Tigger, the Didache in the 1st Cent. is the first that I've seen speaking of Eucharistic open communion. They are/were very emphatic about not allowing anyone unbaptized to receive HC.
However, consider Quakers. They have no baptism. Are they Christian. If so, it seems wrong to deny them communion fun our churches. What about churches that have adult baptism? Are children to be excluded if a family comes to our churches.
Make no mistake, I would restrict communion to the baptized. That is the tradition of the Church. However, I am not as rule-bound as others, and believe that this is a reasonable question.