Ok to date someone who is divorced?

[Dave L]

My question is - is Jesus a complete Savour or just a partial one for divorced women?

I would trust him to make a way. Remaining single until he does.

 

[Dave L]

She, obviously, would been forgiven at the time of her conversion ... if, indeed, she had any responsibility in the past divorces.

So ... adultery never occurs ... due to remarriage after conversion ...

People are married for life, saved or unsaved.

 

[Dave L]

How do you know she is practicing adultery when she doesn't appear to be in a relationship?

People are married for life, saved or unsaved.

 

[pdudgeon]

unfortunately, it all depends on the viewpoint of the Church that she belongs to.

These days in most Protestant churches, they will accept previous divorces before either of you came to Christ as repented from, and thus forgiven by God. (see Oscarr's posts above)
But in the Catholic Church, it's a different story.

There are cases where a previous marriage can be annulled by the Catholic Church, based on the life circumstances that were present before the marriage happened.
Previously unknown sterility for either a man or a woman would be one of these conditions.

Those circumstances (had they been known at the time) would have disqualified either herself or her husband from making a life long commitment had a priest learned of the pre-existing prohibitive conditions.

But if the prohibitive conditions developed after the marriage took place and the couple were married by a priest in the Church, then they are both usually stuck for life to each other, until one of them dies.

So yes, they could easily get a civil divorce, and then marry again in most Protestant churches.
But as far as the Catholic Church is concerned, they can't marry until all the previous spouses die, and the pre-existing conditions (as they pertain to the bride) are removed.

An example of that would be if she had been sterile before the two previous marriages, but now she is past menopause. In those conditions she could marry.

The one exception to that would be if they agree to a "Josephite" marriage, like Joseph and Mary had. That's where the couple lives together, but without any conjugal relations, and sleeps separately, no touching or embracing, etc.

As you can imagine, that's a very difficult situation to endure.

 

[A_Thinker]

People are married for life, saved or unsaved.

I'll defer to Paul ...

1 Corinthians 7

13 And if a woman has an unbelieving husband and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his believing wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy.

15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let him go. The believing brother or sister is not bound in such cases.

 

[dqhall]

Is it ok to be with this woman she had 2 civil marriages and that was before Christ came into her life and both relationships I believe the former husbands left her and cheated on her and abused her.. is it ok to be with her in this type of situation?

Have you ever been unfaithful in marriage? If so that might increase risk of misery if you marry again.

Some people married for money instead of love. Some recommended prenuptial agreements in case a flimsy marriage breaks apart. A person who studied divorce law got a large divorce settlement doing major financial damage to the naive ex-spouse.

People will try for third marriages in spite of statistics showing about 74% of these ended in divorce.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Is it ok to be with this woman she had 2 civil marriages and that was before Christ came into her life and both relationships I believe the former husbands left her and cheated on her and abused her.. is it ok to be with her in this type of situation?

We Repent our past and move on.

Remember King David.

M-Bob

 

[Mountainmanbob]

If your intentions have anything to do for your own wants and needs, then how can it be okay.

Well, we all have wants and needs.
Both involved should take care of each other.
She belongs to me
and I belong to her.

M-Bob

 

[Dave L]

I'll defer to Paul ...

1 Corinthians 7

13 And if a woman has an unbelieving husband and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his believing wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy.

15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let him go. The believing brother or sister is not bound in such cases.

Not bound does not mean not married. = She no longer must submit.

 

[Lady Donna Marie]

I would let the Holy Spirit guide you. Divorce is an option for certain reasons according the scriptures. God is a merciful God and wants healing for His children. The most important thing for her now is to be healed from so that if God brings someone in her life she is ready to have a healthy relationship.

Although, I am reminded that in earlier times when a woman lost her husband either she remarried for someone to take care of her or her family did. Not like the times we live in today where woman are excepted to take care of themselves despite the circumstances they find theirself in.

 

[Dave-W]

So bank robbers can continue since they started before becoming saved?

of course not. But they are forgiven and it is like (before God) that they never robbed any bank in the first place.

I hope you do not do that much assumptive and out-of-context damage to scripture as you did to that post.

 

[Dave-W]

People are married for life, saved or unsaved.

That is in opposition to scripture.

 

[Dave L]

That is in opposition to scripture.

What God has joined together let not man put asunder?

 

[Dave L]

of course not. But they are forgiven and it is like (before God) that they never robbed any bank in the first place.

I hope you do not do that much assumptive and out-of-context damage to scripture as you did to that post.

But adultery cannot be forgiven unless repented of.

 

[Francis Drake]

Divorce is not an option in the New Covenant. You are married for life even if separated.

Apart from the fact that you are wrong in principle, in this case her failed marriages were from before she came to Christ. Thus she is now a new creation.

 

[Dave-W]

What God has joined together let not man put asunder?

Said by Jesus, who ALSO said this by the hand of Moses:

Deut 24.1 “When a man takes a wife and marries her, and it happens that she finds no favor in his eyes because he has found some indecency in her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce and puts it in her hand and sends her out from his house, 2 and she leaves his house and goes and becomes another man’s wife, 3 and if the latter husband turns against her and writes her a certificate of divorce and puts it in her hand and sends her out of his house, or if the latter husband dies who took her to be his wife, 4 then her former husband who sent her away is not allowed to take her again to be his wife, since she has been defiled; for that is an abomination before the Lord, and you shall not bring sin on the land which the Lord your God gives you as an inheritance.

 

[Dave L]

Said by Jesus, who ALSO said this by the hand of Moses:

Deut 24.1 “When a man takes a wife and marries her, and it happens that she finds no favor in his eyes because he has found some indecency in her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce and puts it in her hand and sends her out from his house, 2 and she leaves his house and goes and becomes another man’s wife, 3 and if the latter husband turns against her and writes her a certificate of divorce and puts it in her hand and sends her out of his house, or if the latter husband dies who took her to be his wife, 4 then her former husband who sent her away is not allowed to take her again to be his wife, since she has been defiled; for that is an abomination before the Lord, and you shall not bring sin on the land which the Lord your God gives you as an inheritance.

Not for believers. The hard hearted.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

But adultery cannot be forgiven unless repented of.

As with all sins.

King David was forgiven.
That message sent to all.
M-Bob

 

[Dave-W]

But adultery cannot be forgiven unless repented of.

But bank robbery can?? No.

But what does repentance look like for a person who was sinned against by their spouse committing adultery and then divorcing them? Which sin are they supposed to be repenting from?

 

[Francis Drake]

She wasn't part of the New Covenant when she was divorced. You can't impose New Covenant values on someone who did things before she became converted to Christ. When she got converted to Christ she became a whole new creature in Christ, she died to her old life, and all things became new. Because God has buried her past in the deepest sea of His forgetfulness, it is no longer an issue to Him. So if you are going to judge her for her past which God has forgotten, then it would be right for God to judge you on your sinful past before you became a Christian.

Oscarr, you need to take into account that Dave L has never sinned! (Or maybe that's just what he tells himself?)