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Are we lacking understanding of the sense of humour of God?

Could the sense of humour of God alter the final fulfillment of scary scriptures?

  • Yes..... our Creator has set up scriptures in a way that allow God options.

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  • No... final prophetic events can only work out in one way that that is the end of it.

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  • This is an interesting question that I really haven't though about much before????

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DennisTate

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Obviously.... the Ancient of Days the Heavenly Father and the Holy Spirit / The Comforter and the Word - Logos and the Elohim of Genesis chapter one invented humour........
so on a scale of one to ten how humorous do you think our Creator probably is???

I am of the belief that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus has the third most off the scale sense of humour in the universe / Multiverse and I suspect that all of us might want to pray and ask to be given a better understanding of the sense of humour of our Creator so that we are better prepared for how events could perhaps work out in the end of days?

Did you ever notice the possible loopholes in the Book of Revelation?

Revalation talks about grass being burned up but Isaiah said that all flesh is as grass....... and certainly Acts of the Apostles 2
shows how fire can burn up one hundred and twenty sincere people so..........
could the burning up of a third of the trees and all of the grass have a positive meaning implying an off the scale Awakening as more and more of the Holy Spirit is poured out???

A related question would be.... has our Creator left Himself loopholes in scripture that would allow for a surprisingly positive fulfillment for scary predictions in Revelation and throughout all the Bible?



 
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I have heard that English is a legalistic language that has been evolving partly due to the efforts of lawyers and legislators to produce loophole free clauses and sentences.

I've also heard that Hebrew and Greek are very different from English in that they allow for a much more rich and potentially varied fulfillment of sentences that may seem very dogmatic and simplistic (and really, really scary), to us English speaking Christians.

Revelation 8
"The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up."

Isaiah 40
"The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field:"
 
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So... .could a massive awakening of one third of humanity fulfill the full intent and meaning of those scary verses in Revelation 8??????

We humans are compared with trees???

Psalms 1
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

I have to admit that I do hope that this could answer many of the questions that do tend to trouble us Christians?

The following account sure does remind me of so many predictions in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and the minor prophets.

Isaiah 11

Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience

The image of the future that they gave me then, and it was their image, not one that I created, surprised me. My image had previously been sort of like Star Wars, where everything was space age, plastics, and technology.



The future that they showed me was almost no technology at all. What everybody, absolutely everybody, in this euphoric future spent most of their time doing was raising children. The chief concern of people was children, and everybody considered children to be the most precious commodity in the world.



And when a person became an adult, there was no sense of anxiety, nor hatred, nor competition.



There was this enormous sense of trust and mutual respect. If a person, in this view of the future, became disturbed, then the community of people all cared about the disturbed person falling away from the harmony of the group. Spiritually, through prayer and love, the others would elevate the afflicted person.



What people did with the rest of their time was that they gardened, with almost no physical effort. They showed me that plants, with prayer, would produce huge fruits and vegetables.



People, in unison, could control the climate of the planet through prayer. Everybody would work with mutual trust and the people would call the rain, when needed, and the sun to shine.



Animals lived with people, in harmony.



People, in this best of all worlds, weren't interested in knowledge; they were interested in wisdom. This was because they were in a position where anything they needed to know, in the knowledge category, they could receive simply through prayer. Everything, to them, was solvable. They could do anything they wanted to do.
 
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God's sense of humour is often overlooked by Christians so focused on the heavyweight issues of sin and salvation. But the scriptures and nature are so rich with divine humour, whether in the design and colouring of a toucan or the devil digging a pit and proceeding to fall into it.

It's this life of the spirit, the lightness of His touch in working some totally left-field event which restores one's faith in the midst of an evil day. And it's always breathtakingly perfect in delivery and timing as it strikes you, raises you up in mirth and vigour. Always the touch of wisdom and life to humble you in the most gracious way, like being born again, when He reveals to you how utterly blind and foolish you've been and at the same time opens your eyes and heart to His amazing grace and the way the truth and the life.

It is the divine comedy, after all. And the punchline is He knows the perfect blend to cure every heart and restore sight to every eye.
 
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Heard an interview with neurosugeon ,Dr Avery Jackson , who has written "God's Prescription Bbok" He explained some of the benefits of laughter. It's amazing how God made our bodies. Not surprised He blesses us with laughter.
 
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One preacher said, "I know God has a sense of humor. I have seen many of the people that He created."

Exactly.... I can go through my sixty years, (in forty five of which I was attempting to sincerely follow Messiah Yeshua - Jesus with significant enthusiasm)..... .and I can elaborate on phenomenally stupid error followed by phenomenally stupid error after error after error but... .Messiah Yeshua - Jesus used all of these experiences to humble me and cause me to lose most of my tendency toward trusting myself....... because it is obvious that I am the great, great, great ...... grandson of Adam and Eve in Eden..... and I am humbled and proven to be an idiot over and over again by Satan?!

I am tempted to take an admonition of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus to the ultimate extreme and even forgive Satan..... because he has done me the favour of proving to me that I am an idiot if I attempt to depend on my own understanding or minuscule level of wisdom???

Matthew 5
Mat 5:44

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
 
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God's sense of humour is often overlooked by Christians so focused on the heavyweight issues of sin and salvation. But the scriptures and nature are so rich with divine humour, whether in the design and colouring of a toucan or the devil digging a pit and proceeding to fall into it.

It's this life of the spirit, the lightness of His touch in working some totally left-field event which restores one's faith in the midst of an evil day. And it's always breathtakingly perfect in delivery and timing as it strikes you, raises you up in mirth and vigour. Always the touch of wisdom and life to humble you in the most gracious way, like being born again, when He reveals to you how utterly blind and foolish you've been and at the same time opens your eyes and heart to His amazing grace and the way the truth and the life.

It is the divine comedy, after all. And the punchline is He knows the perfect blend to cure every heart and restore sight to every eye.


I plead guilty to coming close to blasphemy against the Holy Spirit because I followed the leadership of my former denomination, the Worldwide Church of God, into falsely accusing and slandering Pentecostals and Charismatic Christians.

Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong and many pastors taught that Pentecostals were engaging in self- hypnosis through their methods of praise and worship and were perhaps being taken over by a demon...... in some of their manifestations of, for example, speaking in tongues???

If I remember correctly..... we even taught that in that state... demons could leave somebody and they could temporarily appeared "healed" but often their conditions would return... .when the demon came back.........????

I now believe that we were either committing or were very, very, very close to full fledged blasphemy against the Holy Spirit but.......

I prayed about really dangerous things beginning in 1990.... .and in the year 2000 Messiah Yeshua - Jesus spoke to my future wife, (who is a very gifted Pentecostal from Ecuador), and somehow told her to fast and pray for me for thirty five days...... and she did it. For four weeks for three days per week only fruit juices.... then for the fifth week seven days in a row only fruit juice... and Messiah Yeshua - Jesus woke her up and got her to pray for me..........

I was three thousand miles north, north east of her basking in the most astonishing Shalom / peace of mind as she did this!

This will give you a good idea of how much trouble I had gotten myself into spiritually:
My conversation with the Rabbi.....

It seems to me that Pentecostal and Charismatic Christians are being greatly blessed, similar to the way that King David was blessed after a grandson of King Saul cursed him and exaggerated accusations against him as his son King Absolom took over temporarily in Jerusalem? Even though Pentecostal gifts can be replicated by Satan to some degree..... .as some gifted Pentecostals have been shown......... I believe it was Pastor Bobby Conner who was shown that a witch was head of the prayer team in one church he visited...... (this type of thing does muddy the water but..... I believe that there is a genuine modern manifestation of speaking in tongues similar to Acts of the Apostles 2
but... .I have never experienced this myself yet?!

The many, many, many examples of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus humbling the proud, (exemplified by me and my old denomination)..... and exalting the humble and obedient... .is one of the most beautiful examples of the sense of humour of God that I have ever observed in my sixty years!
 
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Heard an interview with neurosugeon ,Dr Avery Jackson , who has written "God's Prescription Bbok" He explained some of the benefits of laughter. It's amazing how God made our bodies. Not surprised He blesses us with laughter.

And I cannot help but wonder to what degree the metaphorical Body of Messiah.... the Bride of Christ the church....... could benefit and come closer together if we can learn to laugh at our errors from the past....... and admit them with honesty and clarity and humility?!

Over these last five to ten years or more I benefited a great deal from the books on his visionary dreams by Pastor Rick Joyner who admits to being led to a pretty extreme level of guilt / shame/ repentance over his own errors from his past?!

Beginning at the 2:21:00 mark Pastor Rick goes though greater and greater and greater levels of his own shame and humiliation. I so identify with what he was shown about how serious a problem our own pride and lack of love for others can really be.


Rick Joyner, The Final Quest:
"I then began to think of all of the time that I had wasted in my life. It was such an overwhelming thought that I stopped. Then parts of my life began to pass before me. I began to experience a terrible grief over this one sin. I too had been one of the greatest of fools! I may have kept more oil in my lamp than others, but now I knew how foolish I had been to measure what was required of me by how others were doing. I, too, was one of the foolish virgins!

Just when I thought I would collapse under the weight of this terrible discovery, a man who I had known and esteemed as one of the great men of God I had known, came forward to steady me. Somehow his touch revived me. He then greeted me warmly. He was a man that I had wanted to be discipled by. I had met him, but we did not get along well. Like a number of others I had tried to get close enough to learn from, I was an irritation to him and he finally asked me to leave. For years I had felt guilty about this, feeling that I had missed a great opportunity because of some flaw in my character. Even though I had put it out of my mind, I still carried the weight of this failure. When I saw him it all surfaced, and a sick feeling came over me. Now he was so regal that I felt even more repulsive and embarrassed by my poor state. I wanted to hide but there was no way I could avoid him here. To my surprise, his warmth toward me was so genuine that he quickly put me at ease. There did not seem to be any barriers between us. In fact, the love I felt coming from him almost completely took away my self-consciousness.

"I have waited eagerly for this meeting," he said.

"You were waiting for me?" I asked. "Why?"

"You are just one of many that I am waiting for. I did not understand until my judgment that you were one that I was called to help, to even disciple, but I rejected you."

"Sir," I protested. "It would have been a great honor to be discipled by you, and I am very thankful for the time that I did have with you, but I was so arrogant I deserved your rejection. I know that my rebellion and pride has kept me from ever having a real spiritual father. This was not your fault, but mine."

"It is true that you were prideful, but that is not why I was offended with you. I was offended because of my insecurity, which made me want to control everyone around me. I was offended that you would not accept everything that I said without questioning it. I then started to look for anything that was wrong with you to justify my rejection. I began to feel that if I could not control you that you would one day embarrass me and my ministry. I esteemed my ministry more than I did the people for whom it was given to me, so I drove many like you away," he said.

With a genuineness that is unknown in the realms of earth, he continued, "All children are rebellious, and think that the world revolves around them. That is why they need parents to raise them. Almost every child will at times bring reproach on his family, but he is still a part of the family. I turned away many of God's own children that he had entrusted to me for getting them safely to maturity. I failed with most of them. Most of them suffered terrible wounds and failures that I could have helped them to avoid. Many of them are now prisoners of the enemy. I built a large organization, and had considerable influence in the church, but the greatest gifts that the Lord trusted to me were the ones who were sent to me for discipline, many of whom I rejected. Had I not been so self-centered and concerned with my own reputation I would be a king here. I was called to one of the highest thrones. All that you have and will accomplish would have been in my heavenly account as well. Instead, much of what I gave my attention to was of very little true eternal significance. What looks good on earth looks very different here. What will make you a king on earth will often be a stumbling block to keep you from being a king here. What will make you a king here is lowly and un-esteemed on earth. Will you forgive me?"

"Of course," I said, quite embarrassed. "But I, too, am in need of your forgiveness. I still think that it was my awkwardness and rebellion that made it difficult for you."

"It is true that you were not perfect, and I discerned some of your problems rightly, but that is never cause for rejection," he replied. "The Lord did not reject the world when I saw its failures. He did not reject me when He saw my sin. He laid down His life for us. It is always the greater who must lay down his life for the lesser. I was more mature. I had more authority than you, but I became like one of the goats in the parable; I rejected the Lord by rejecting you and the others that He sent to me."

As he talked, his words were striking me deeply. I, too, was guilty of everything that he was relenting of. Many young men and women who I had brushed off as not being important enough for my time were now passing through my mind. How desperately I wanted to return now and gather them together! This grief that I began to feel was even worse than I had felt about wasting time. I had wasted people! Now many of these were prisoners of the enemy, wounded and captured during the battle on the mountain. This whole battle was for people, and yet people were often regarded as the least important. We will fight for truths more than for the people for whom they are given. We will fight for ministries while running roughshod over the people in them. "And many people think of me as a spiritual leader! I am truly the least of the saints," I thought to myself.

"I understand how you feel," remarked another man I recognized as one I considered one of the greatest Christian leaders of all time. "Paul the apostle said near the end of his life that he was the least of the saints. Then just before his death he even called himself 'the greatest of sinners.' Had he not learned that in his life on earth he, too, would have been in jeopardy of being one of the least of the saints in heaven. Because he learned it on earth he is now one of those closest to the Lord, and will be one of the highest in rank for all of eternity."

Seeing this man in the company of "The foolish virgins" was the greatest surprise I had yet. "I cannot believe that you, too, are one of the foolish who slept away their lives on earth. Why are you here?"

From what I have read by him.... there isn't much middle ground for this guy Pastor Rick Joyner......... the man is either a Christian literary genius comparable with C. S. Lewis...... or he is an ordinary Christian like you or I who had a genuine visionary dream from God............

and he has a pretty good memory boosted by the Holy Spirit so that he could record these dreams much more faithfully than I can easily imagine doing myself?
 
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