Trump wants Bible classes in schools

[Ricky M]

As self interest grows does aggression grow with it

Well let's see now; we've had several generations brought up under the self-esteem movement, and are now surrounded by middle agers who'd just as soon spit on you as give you the time of day. Love will grow cold was an understatement!

 

[Mountainmanbob]

"Numerous states introducing Bible Literacy classes, giving students the option of studying the Bible. Starting to make a turn back? Great!" Mr. Trump tweeted Monday morning after "Fox and Friends" ran a segment on the topic.

Trump backs push for Bible classes in schools

How long can we say this?
Once again!
Thank you President Trump.
Amazing, simply amazing!
M-Bob

 

[timothyu]

It's amazing how killing a couple of people can raise the ratings of a couple of Presidents but does absolutely nothing in subduing the enemy. "What fools these mortals be".

 

[Ada Lovelace]

"Numerous states introducing Bible Literacy classes, giving students the option of studying the Bible. Starting to make a turn back? Great!" Mr. Trump tweeted Monday morning after "Fox and Friends" ran a segment on the topic.

Trump backs push for Bible classes in schools

At the beginning of the year when Donald Trump wrote the Tweet there were two threads on this forum about it. One was in a section only permissible for members labeled as Christians to post in. The other was open to all.

The thread that was in the all-access area moved along the track of discussion. The one for Christians swiftly derailed in multiple directions as members began squabbling with one another over which version of hermeneutics should be taught in such Bible classes. The same arguments that Christians have waged with another since this forum was established, since long before the internet even existed, with fews minds ever being changed but much offense being caused once again ensued. In that thread Christian adults began to hurl insults and belittle one another as they passionately declared that their interpretation was the incontrovertible, exclusively correct one to be taught. It once again paralleled my own experiences that caused me to join this forum as a kid after a girl sparked a civil war of sorts between Christian friends with her fevered insistence that her worldview was the only one an authentic Christian should hold, trampling upon the hearts of those with beliefs incompatible with hers, making them feel their faith was being attacked. The one girl who wasn't firm in her faith due to personal tragedies sowing doubt walked away from Christianity and to date has a negative impression of it because of that upsetting experience.

This is precisely why some prudent Christians have argued against Bible classes being taught in public schools; it provokes divisiveness and rancor that detracts from the teachings and the spirit of Christ. We are to be unified in our faith that Christ is our savior, not relentlessly feuding over differing interpretations of scripture.

As I explained in the previous threads, Bible as Literature classes have long been taught at public and independent schools without controversy. One of the most liberal-leaning public schools in the country, Santa Monica High School, taught it as an English elective. My private independent school in LA also offers it, as does my boyfriend's private school in New England. The difference is that it's taught from an academic perspective, in a dispassionate manner, rather than proselyting a belief system.

Out of curiosity - what would the syllabus consist of if you were teaching a Bible class in a public school?

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

How long can we say this?
Once again!
Thank you President Trump.
Amazing, simply amazing!
M-Bob

If Christian parents were teaching their kids about God. There would be no need to teach it in schools, or force it on to orher peoples children .

 

[Mountainmanbob]

If Christian parents were teaching their kids about God. There would be no need to teach it in schools, or force it on to orher peoples children .

The ones that don't want to participate can bring other books to school to read.
It aint rocket science.

M-Bob

 

[variant]

I don't know...

What do we do about those who would like to have their child receive religious instruction in a school, but cannot afford private school?

Tell them to go find a local church that wants to do it.

 

[Desk trauma]

The ones that don't want to participate can bring other books to school to read.
It aint rocket science.

M-Bob

Even less like rocket science, the schools avoid the whole mess and don't open the door to these classes.

 

[Speedwell]

The ones that don't want to participate can bring other books to school to read.
It aint rocket science.

M-Bob

Why should those children be left to their own devices while sectarian religious instruction goes on?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

It's important that students learn about the sanctity of a man's three marriages.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

It's important that students learn about the sanctity of a man's three marriages.

Not sure what you are referring to?
Sure it's good for kids to know?
M-Bob

 

[Speedwell]

Not sure what you are referring to?
Sure it's good for kids to know?
M-Bob

What's your idea of what should be taught in these Bible classes?

 

[GACfan]

It's important that students learn about the sanctity of a man's three marriages.

Typically Trump is never judged by his supporters for his multiple sins. The usual excuses are "I voted for a President, not a Pastor," "Show us a perfect person," and the fervent insistence that he shouldn't be judged for his sins. Democrats, on the other hand, aren't given the slightest hint of such leniency.

 

[keith99]

I don't know...

What do we do about those who would like to have their child receive religious instruction in a school, but cannot afford private school?

Let them go to Church and have their child attend the free instruction that almost every Church provides?

 

[Go Braves]

Not sure what you are referring to?
Sure it's good for kids to know?
M-Bob

What is is that you want kids to know, Bob? Wondering if you read Stanfordella's post up above? I can testify to some of what she wrote on account of having experienced it myself.

As a young kid I went to a Southern Baptist school mainly on account of us living in such a rural area at the time the closet public school was clear across the county. My family is Baptist, in that part of the South nearly everybody is. But we are not Southern Baptists, and our beliefs don't match up on quite a few things. At the Southern Baptist school they just used workbooks to teach. They taught that Genesis was absolutely literal, that the universe was created in just six literal 24-hour days 5000 years back. That man and dinosaur lived at the same time. They taught that ladies cannot be pastors and should not be in any positions of authority over men.

My family was back in Atlanta by the time I started HS. I went to a Catholic HS despite not being Catholic yet (only made that switch this yr) on account of their partnership with the engineering school I knew I wanted to attend. They have outstanding math and science classes. They required theology classes all 4 yrs. They absolutely do not believe what the Southern Baptist school believes. They accept the scientific facts about evolution, the age of the universe being billions not thousands of years old, that manmade climate change is real and we have a duty to get off our tails to do something about it. Environmental science is a required class. Evolution was covered in at least 4 of my science classes, probably more if I think through them all. They also teach a whole course about social justice being a Christian duty. It's a definitely a conservative school, it's just got a whole different attitude about what that means than some folks do.

 

[timothyu]

If Christian parents were teaching their kids about God. There would be no need to teach it in schools, or force it on to orher peoples children .

They probably are. The system wants to bring into the religious right those who have no connection. An early indoctrination can mean a vote later on.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

The ones that don't want to participate can bring other books to school to read.
It aint rocket science.

M-Bob

Or they shouldn't have to take the bible class period. But, Lazy Christians should be teaching their own kids about God.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

They probably are. The system wants to bring into the religious right those who have no connection. An early indoctrination can mean a vote later on.

Yes, forced religion never works. Also, I believe true Christians vote Democrat because they care about babies, children and people.

 

[timothyu]

Also, I believe true Christians vote Democrat because they care about babies, children and people.

Maybe in terms of social justice but that has crossed the boundaries and become rights over responsibility, a huge mistake. Of course you will probably hear how democrats favour abortion and that is but one example of rights over responsibility, but it was also the republicans that brought about and passed Roe vs Wade to attract the Catholics away from the Dems. Create a problem and then for 50 years pretend you will fix it.

So in the end neither represent the Kingdom of God but serve self in the traditional ways of man. Best to follow the third option.

 

[dad]

Do you also want Koran classes, Torah classes and classes for the study of the writing of LaVey? Because that's how you get those.

I think the article was about public schools. You seem to think that if the truth is taught that this means that unlimited lies also must be taught. No.