What day is the sabath what day does the bible say?

[ewq1938]

If so, you will break the 7 day cycle.

The first day of the month decided when the 7th day was. Making the 7th day Sabbath not the 7th day of the month means it is a man made Sabbath held on the wrong day. Making the Sabbath happen on every Friday evening is very easy to follow on the modern pagan calendar but that is not how Jewish months were determined. Jewish months don't match the months we currently use.

The last new Jewish month started Sept 25th on what we call Tuesday. 6 days later was God's Sabbath, which fell on a Monday. That was Oct 1st but most of the world did not celebrate that as Sabbath, they had their Sabbath sooner on Sept 28th, a Friday evening. That was actually only the 3rd day of the Jewish Month which obviously is not the 7th day according to how the OT decided the days. The 3rd day of God's calendar is not the 7th day Sabbath.

Basically modern Sabbath keepers are keeping a Sabbath according to a pagan calendar that has moved the Sabbath. But, because it is the 7th day on the pagan calendar, people are confused and think any 7th day is still the right 7th day.

 

[ewq1938]

The new moon was on the 4th

God's Sabbath was not determined by a new moon. Only man's Sabbath's were determined by when the new moon happened.

 

[Semper-Fi]

God's Sabbath was not determined by a new moon.

Yet you clam just the opposite in another post.
Did God fail to preserve His Oracles for us?

 

[ewq1938]

Someone tried but failed.
Can you give us verses to this to check

Exo 12:18 In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at even, ye shall eat unleavened bread, until the one and twentieth day of the month at even.

The only way to know when the 14th day is is to know when the first day is, that is the first day of the month.

This establishes how the numbered days were decided. So, we know the Sabbath was the 7th day of the month I don't have to prove that because it's common knowledge. Another 7 days was the next weekly Sabbath and that was the 14th day of the month and so on.

Again, to know the 7th day or the 14th or any day, you have to start at the first day and that was decided by the new moon, the first day of the Jewish month. Six days after that was the weekly Sabbath. It was not on our current and pagan Friday evenings.

H2320
חֹדֶשׁ
chôdesh
kho'-desh
From H2318; the new moon; by implication a month: - month (-ly), new moon.
Total KJV occurrences: 279

 

[ewq1938]

Yet you clam just the opposite in another post.

Prove that please.

 

[Loversofjesus_2018]

No I wouldn't say. As a Traditional Christian I do not ascribe to evangelical ideas, God put the Church in charge not every single person.

Ok. Nothing but respect from my side

 

[Semper-Fi]

Exo 12:18

If you really read the whole chapter,
it is talking about Passover [14th] and
then 7 days of Unleavened bread[15-21]
7 days with 2 High Holy days[no work]
The 1st and 7th day of the feast.
A memorial, ordained forever .

These days will change week day every year.

Nothing talks about the weekly cycle,
but this [Annual convocation] of Gods.

Only one of 7 Holy Days are locked
to the same week day [Pentecost].

The only way to know when the 14th
day is is to know when the first day is,
that is the first day of the month.

This establishes how the numbered
days were decided.

Yes count to The 14 day of the month ,
but it does not say anything about
the 7 days of the week.

Those verses talk about High Holy Days
that God calls His Sabbaths.
Does not establish or show the weekly cycle.

The disciples keep the days of unleavened bread
so they had Gods Oracles. We know the 7 day cycle has not changed since Christ.

 

[ewq1938]

Yes count to The 14 day of the month ,
but it does not say anything about
the 7 days of the week.

Yes it does because the 14th day is 7 days after the 7th day. All I was proving is the numbered days are based on the first day of the month. There is nothing about a separate week of days that is different numbers than the days of the entire month. If there is, show us the scripture where the 7th day of a week can be not the 7th or 14th etc day of the month.

 

[Semper-Fi]

show us the scripture where the 7th day of a week can be not the 7th or 14th etc day of the month.

I never said that the Sabbath could never be on the 7th or 14th of the month. But that there is no scripture that says the 7th day Sabbath is locked to the 7th day of the month.

If the 14th day was always a Sabbath,
it would be called the 14 day Sabbath,
or the 21 day Sabbath or 28 day Sabbath.

Then there is the question about extra days
if it was a 30 day month, or more or less.

 

[Semper-Fi]

Yes it does because the 14th day is 7 days after the 7th day.

Passover- one day [14th], a day to prep
for the next day feast.

Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread

And in the first day [15th]there shall be an
holy convocation, and in the seventh day
[21]there shall be an holy convocation

Two high Sabbath in one 7 day week?
2 Sabbaths - 5 work days.
That would be breaking the law- 6 days then one
This is not talking about the 7 day weekly cycle

 

[GingerBeer]

Ins't the Israelite calendar from ancient times a lunar calendar with 12 months of 30 days or something like that and a few days at the end of the year treated as extra days to bring the total to 365 days?

 

[klutedavid]

Ins't the Israelite calendar from ancient times a lunar calendar with 12 months of 30 days or something like that and a few days at the end of the year treated as extra days to bring the total to 365 days?

No, the lunisolar year was more than ten days shorter than the Papal year.

I read some where that the lunisolar year was about 354 days.

 

[GingerBeer]

No, the lunisolar year was more than ten days shorter than the Papal year.

I read some where that the lunisolar year was about 354 days.

I see, so months varied in length from 29 to 30 days. with between 6 and 8 of them being 29 and the rest being 30 giving between 356 and 354 days per year with 5 years in every 19 having an extra month called veadar (second adar, or 2adar).

 

[klutedavid]

I see, so months varied in length from 29 to 30 days. with between 6 and 8 of them being 29 and the rest being 30 giving between 356 and 354 days per year with 5 years in every 19 having an extra month called veadar (second adar, or 2adar).

That seems to be correct.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

The first day of the month decided when the 7th day was. Making the 7th day Sabbath not the 7th day of the month means it is a man made Sabbath held on the wrong day. Making the Sabbath happen on every Friday evening is very easy to follow on the modern pagan calendar but that is not how Jewish months were determined. Jewish months don't match the months we currently use.

The last new Jewish month started Sept 25th on what we call Tuesday. 6 days later was God's Sabbath, which fell on a Monday. That was Oct 1st but most of the world did not celebrate that as Sabbath, they had their Sabbath sooner on Sept 28th, a Friday evening. That was actually only the 3rd day of the Jewish Month which obviously is not the 7th day according to how the OT decided the days. The 3rd day of God's calendar is not the 7th day Sabbath.

Basically modern Sabbath keepers are keeping a Sabbath according to a pagan calendar that has moved the Sabbath. But, because it is the 7th day on the pagan calendar, people are confused and think any 7th day is still the right 7th day.

Rosh Chodesh determines the months. You are wrong on the rest. If what you said were the case it would definitely break the 7 day Shabbat cycle, possibly every month...

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

God's Sabbath was not determined by a new moon. Only man's Sabbath's were determined by when the new moon happened.

I never said it did...you are wrong

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Where in the TaNaKh is the lunar weekly Shabbat commanded/mentioned?

 

[ViaCrucis]

Sun worship (man Made)

Good thing nobody's worshiping the sun then.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

Easter Sunday morning worship facing the rising sun in the east. DUH

Liturgical East evolved from the Jewish practice of praying toward Jerusalem. Christians however developed the ad orientem liturgical posture out of honor of Jesus Christ, as the Scriptures teach:

"But for you who fear my name, the sun of righteousness shall rise with healing in its wings. You shall go out leaping like calves from the stall." - Malachi 4:2

"And we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts," - 2 Peter 1:19

"For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man." - Matthew 24:27

If you intend to continue to slander, just know that I will have every intention on reporting you.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Original Happy Camper]

If you intend to continue to slander, just know that I will have every intention on reporting you.

as you have done in the past