Impeachment Behind Closed Doors

[whatbogsends]

Perhaps some proof would help ...
Trump suggests arresting Adam Schiff for 'treason'

“Rep. Adam Schiff illegally made up a FAKE & terrible statement, pretended it to be mine as the most important part of my call to the Ukrainian President, and read it aloud to Congress and the American people,” Trump wrote on Twitter. “It bore NO relationship to what I said on the call. Arrest for Treason?”
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Trump previously demanded Sunday that Schiff be “questioned at the highest level for Fraud & Treason,” and claimed that his “lies were made in perhaps the most blatant and sinister manner ever seen in the great Chamber.”​

That's proof of 2 things:

1) Trump either lying or confused about what Schiff said. Schiff made it quite clear that he was summing up/paraphrasing Trump's conversation and did not "pretend it was Trump's statement".

2) Trump doesn't understand the definition of treason.

 

[essentialsaltes]

The further this goes along, the less credible it seems. In the beginning, at least mainstream media personalities could carry it along a little with straight faces. Now, all testimony is behind closed doors. Transcripts are being withheld, and only Democrat talking points seem to be allowed out.

Republicans on these committees could get their talking point out, but as we've seen, no one has been willing to go on the morning shows to defend the President.

 

[Tom 1]

Perhaps some proof would help ...
Trump suggests arresting Adam Schiff for 'treason'

“Rep. Adam Schiff illegally made up a FAKE & terrible statement, pretended it to be mine as the most important part of my call to the Ukrainian President, and read it aloud to Congress and the American people,” Trump wrote on Twitter. “It bore NO relationship to what I said on the call. Arrest for Treason?”
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Trump previously demanded Sunday that Schiff be “questioned at the highest level for Fraud & Treason,” and claimed that his “lies were made in perhaps the most blatant and sinister manner ever seen in the great Chamber.”​

In what way is that proof of treason?? Come on, that’s stretching the definition of treason more than a tad.

 

[DaisyDay]

Urgent and credible claim =/ Impeachment

It does, however, mean inquiry into possible impeachment.

Democrats jumped to impeachment purely for political reasons. That is, by definition, treason.

No, it isn't. That is not the definition of treason.

 

[mark46]

Investigations of Nixon and Clinton were done in secret. That is our system; investigations and depositions by prosecutors are not meant for public consumption. That being said, the redacted transcripts will likely be released after all the witnesses have been deposed, likely within a month or so.

I would note that these issues were referred to the Justice Department several times. Barr refused to investigate and refused to depose even one witness. Congress was given little choice. Congress had to do the investigation themselves.

 

[mark46]

We are in the Age Of Trump. Words mean whatever we want them to mean.

The need was made obvious when the president twice confessed in public, one of asking for information from Ukraine on the Biden's, and then asking Ukraine and China.

No, it isn't. That is not the definition of treason.

 

[NightHawkeye]

No, it isn't. That is not the definition of treason.

You're entitled to your opinion.

In almost every country in the world, any group attempting for three years to overturn the last election results ... would be considered treasonous. That indeed fits the definition of treason.

Let's be clear. Attempting to win the next election is not treasonous. Attempting to overturn the last duly elected government is treasonous.

 

[Always in His Presence]

an INQUIRY can be likened to a grand jury...Is a grand jury open to the public?

citation requested

a grand jury also hears from defense, which is not happening. Impeachment queries have always been open. Right now the only people allowed to release information to the press are the Democrats. How is that fair?

 

[Kentonio]

You're entitled to your opinion.

In almost every country in the world, any group attempting for three years to overturn the last election results ... would be considered treasonous. That indeed fits the definition of treason.

Let's be clear. Attempting to win the next election is not treasonous. Attempting to overturn the last duly elected government is treasonous.

This is hilarious. I suppose the Republicans who went after Bill Clinton and failed were therefore traitors too?

 

[essentialsaltes]

a grand jury also hears from defense

citation requested

 

[Hank77]

Urgent and credible claim =/ Impeachment

Democrats jumped to impeachment purely for political reasons. That is, by definition, treason.

They have not jumped to impeachment, they are investigating IF there is reason to impeach and they are investigating because the DOJ refused to.

In both the Nixon and the Clinton investigations a special prosecutor was appointed by the DOJ to perform an investigation, which took place behind closed doors just like a grand jury does. Those prosecutors wrote a report lining out the evidence that they had discovered, which they then turned over to the House of Representatives. Nixon resigned before the HoR voted and the HoR voted to impeach Clinton.

In this case, the Congress was forced to act on their own because the DoJ wouldn't. The Intelligence Committee is acting as the special prosecutor would have because they have oversight of the DoJ, DNI, the CIA, etc..

There are three Representatives from the Judiciary Committee sitting in on all the interviews, so they are very aware of what is being asked by both Democrat and the Republican Intelligence Committee members and the answers to those questions.

These are the members who are on the Intelligence Committee that are behind those closed doors asking the witnesses questions, Democrats and Republicans.

Majority And Minority ( Minority list - Devin Nunes, etc.)

• Adam Schiff, California, Chair
• Jim Himes, Connecticut
• Terri Sewell, Alabama
• André Carson, Indiana
• Jackie Speier, California
• Mike Quigley, Illinois
• Eric Swalwell, California
• Joaquin Castro, Texas
• Denny Heck, Washington
• Sean Patrick Maloney, New York
• Val Demings, Florida
• Raja Krishnamoorthi, Illinois
• Peter Welch, Vermont

• Devin Nunes, California, Ranking Member
• Mike Conaway, Texas
• Mike Turner, Ohio
• Brad Wenstrup, Ohio
• Chris Stewart, Utah
• Rick Crawford, Arkansas
• Elise Stefanik, New York
• Will Hurd, Texas
• John Ratcliffe, Texas

 

[DaisyDay]

You're entitled to your opinion.

It's more than just my opinion. Reading a parody of a rough transcript is treason only in the eyes of Donald and his most desperate ride or die supporters.

In almost every country in the world, any group attempting for three years to overturn the last election results ... would be considered treasonous. That indeed fits the definition of treason.

What nonsense. Acting within the confines of the law as set forth by the Constitution is not treason. And the idea that the Democrats are trying to "overturn the election" is either fantasy or libel - the government would still be in place should the impeachment effort succeed, just with one politician fewer.

Let's be clear. Attempting to win the next election is not treasonous. Attempting to overturn the last duly elected government is treasonous.

No one is trying to overturn the government; they are acting within the law. They are allowed legally to impeach the president. Pretending otherwise just makes a person look uninformed and ignorant of US civics.

 

[NightHawkeye]

No one is trying to overturn the government; they are acting within the law. They are allowed legally to impeach the president. Pretending otherwise just makes a person look uninformed and ignorant of US civics.

Then why haven't they actually impeached him? There are no articles of impeachment.

Impeachment is a trial. The defendant has rights. What's happening now is not a trial. The defendant has no rights. Instead, the defendant here is lied about and slandered 24/7. If he criticizes any of it, he is lied about and slandered even more.

 

[wing2000]

You're entitled to your opinion.

In almost every country in the world, any group attempting for three years to overturn the last election results ... would be considered treasonous. That indeed fits the definition of treason.

Let's be clear. Attempting to win the next election is not treasonous. Attempting to overturn the last duly elected government is treasonous.

Fortunately, we are not any country. Treason is defined in the U.S. Constitution....and you're aptly demonstrating why there was a need to do so...

 

[wing2000]

Then why haven't they actually impeached him? There are no articles of impeachment.

Impeachment is a trial. The defendant has rights. What's happening now is not a trial. The defendant has no rights. Instead, the defendant here is lied about and slandered 24/7. If he criticizes any of it, he is lied about and slandered even more.

I refer you to past impeachment timelines.

 

[NightHawkeye]

I refer you to past impeachment timelines.

None of which lasted three years.

 

[Speedwell]

None of which lasted three years.

And this one hasn't either. The Mueller investigation was about something else.

 

[NightHawkeye]

And this one hasn't either. The Mueller investigation was about something else.

LOL ... the failed first attempt at impeachment.

 

[Always in His Presence]

This is hilarious. I suppose the Republicans who went after Bill Clinton and failed were therefore traitors too?

did the Republicans refuse to left the Democrats ask questions?

did the Republicans refuse to allow attorneys and personnel from the White Hoise tell their side?

did the Republicans lie in the opening of the inquiry of the President and then say it was parody?

 

[Speedwell]

LOL ... the failed first attempt at impeachment.

No, that's just one of the Big Lies of the Right, that the Mueller investigation was all about removing Trump from office, a big lie designed to obscure and discredit the fact that the Russians really did try to influence our election.