Donald's legal team wants to overturn Watergate decision...

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This has to do with showing respect for elders as compared to being rude and crude. Perhaps you could run a google search and do a bit of research on this subject. "“Stand up in the presence of the elderly, and show respect for the aged." (Leviticus 19:32) In the same way we should show respect for our president. Because he is the leader of our country. If we agree with all of his polices or not.

The law provides protection: "If the victim is elderly, in addition to the minimum mandatory sentence imposed by the statute, the statute also reclassifies battery from a misdemeanor to a felony, punishable by a term of prison of up to five years and a fine of up to $5,000."

Young and old, esp very young and very old people are to be given extra respect and consideration. Esp in the case of Hugh Hefner because he was just a playboy. But the fact that he lived to be 91 would tend to show that he did not abuse women they way you would expect from a player. So that would tend to show he had respect and consideration for them.

Are we to assume that God respected them because they were old?
 
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How often is the supreme court vote 5 to 4? That is their job and what they do for a living and they do not seem to agree on all that much.

You mean the constitutional experts with law degrees? OK. Tell us the argument against the house having full constitutional authority to impeach and being able to set it's own rules. What are the precedent setting cases and what are the arguments of the constitutional experts on each side?
 
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Please explain your logic.
People are given 70 and if for reason of strength 80 years. They can add years to their life beyond 80 to a potential of 120 years. For example: "My son, do not forget my teaching, but let your heart keep my commandments; for they will add length to your days, years and peace to your life." (Proverbs3:1,2)The law of God, the Commandments are designed for our well being and our benefit. We can choose life or death, sickness or health. The Commandments are designed to give us health and a long life. In the same way we are told that children are to obey their parent, this will add years to their life. Of course all of this is summed up in that we are to love and treat people the way we want to be treated. We are to be at peace with everyone and even we are to love our enemy and return good for those who are evil to us. Everyone gets along with everyone in Heaven. That is a requirement to get into Heaven. The people that end up in Hell go there because of contentions, arguments, divisions, disputes and so on.
 
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Are we to assume that God respected them because they were old?
We assume that people have to live right to live old. Otherwise they die young. This is why we are to have respect for older people. This is why under the law it is a felony to abuse older people where it would have been a misdemeanor if the person was younger. Lawless people want to disregard the law but the liberal want laws to apply to their opponent but not them. Eventually they come to realize that they have to live by the standards that they want to set for others.
 
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We assume that people have to live right to live old. Otherwise they die young. This is why we are to have respect for older people.

Is God bound by that rule?
 
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You mean the constitutional experts with law degrees? OK. Tell us the argument against the house having full constitutional authority to impeach and being able to set it's own rules. What are the precedent setting cases and what are the arguments of the constitutional experts on each side?
This is what they are trying to establish with Trump right now. Neither Nixon or Clinton was impeached. Even though they danced this dance with them.
 
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This is what they are trying to establish with Trump right now. Neither Nixon or Clinton was impeached. Even though they danced this dance with them.

Actually, Clinton was impeached... but subsequently acquitted.

Remember, Impeachment is the trial, not the sentencing.
 
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This is what they are trying to establish with Trump right now. Neither Nixon or Clinton was impeached. Even though they danced this dance with them.

Clinton was impeached.

Edit: TLK beat me to it.
 
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Is God bound by that rule?
God lives outside of time. There is no decay or corruption with God. God is bound by His own nature though. For example, it is impossible for God to lie, He can only tell the truth and He can not do anything contrary to Himself. That is why Jesus had to go to Calvary to die for our sins. God is a God of perfect and absolute Justice. We know how Perfect God is because we know how fine tuned the Universe is.
 
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God lives outside of time. There is no decay or corruption with God. God is bound by His own nature though. For example, it is impossible for God to lie, He can only tell the truth and He can not do anything contrary to Himself. That is why Jesus had to go to Calvary to die for our sins. God is a God of perfect and absolute Justice. We know how Perfect God is because we know how fine tuned the Universe is.

That's nice -- is God required to show respect to the aged as we are?
 
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Clinton was impeached.
He never missed a paycheck and he stayed in office to the end of his term. The only thing that was resolved was now we know why the presidents desk has secret panels in it. Also we know that Hillary will stand by her man and cover for him through thick or thin. What they call damage control.
 
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That's nice -- is God required to show respect to the aged as we are?
I already answered this question. God follows His own law. God created the natural laws of the universe. The question is do you live by the standard that you set for others? Do you live by the standard that God sets for you to live by?

People think that a miracle is a violation of the laws of nature. Just the opposite. A miracle re establishes the law and restores the natural world to God's plan, purpose and intention.
 
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He never missed a paycheck and he stayed in office to the end of his term. The only thing that was resolved was now we know why the presidents desk has secret panels in it. Also we know that Hillary will stand by her man and cover for him through thick or thin. What they call damage control.

You clearly don’t understand the impeachment process.

House Democrats are currently in an impeachment inquiry which is similar to the district attorney investigating whether and what charges should be brought. This was happening when Goldwater told Nixon he was going to lose and Nixon decided to resign.

The charges that are decided to be brought forward will be in the “Articles of Impeachment” sent to the full House, similar to a grand jury to decide whether their is enough to charge Trump with. A simple majority vote on each article will send that article to the Senate. This is called “Impeachment” which is what happened to Clinton.

The Senate holds a trial with the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presiding as the judge. After the evidence and witnesses are presented the Senate votes. 2/3 vote is needed to remove the President (the Senate didn’t reach that threshold with Clinton so he was acquitted).
 
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This is what they are trying to establish with Trump right now.

No it is not. I can cite the constitutional authority giving the house complete control of the impeachment process and I can cite the current rulers governing them. You have yet to offer anything as evidence for your claims other then vague assertions. Do you understand why everyone is saying this is a constitutional crises? Do you know what a constitutional crises entails?

Neither Nixon or Clinton was impeached. Even though they danced this dance with them.

Clinton was impeached. A president is impeached when the house formally votes to bring charges and send the matter to be tried in the senate. Why would I take your claims on this seriously when you don't even demonstrate an understanding of the basics of the process?
 
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That was yesterdays news. Today we are dealing with today's news. My history teacher in High School was a holocaust survivor. He was the one that taught me to keep up with the news and current events. He lived to be 100. Trump was elected to office and he is going to be re elected. I appreciate that the liberals are doing what they can to stop him, but they will not succeed this time anymore then they did last time. Because they are the ones that are lawless, so that is why they accuse people like Trump that actually follows the law.

Your HS history teacher who was a Holocaust survivor deserves way more respect than to be used like this as a prop!!!!!!!!! This isn't an OK thing to do!
 
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Considering how everyone else who works closely with him eventually is either fired/resigns/gets indicted, how many lawyers would be willing to take up his case?

Cellino & Barnes never turn anybody down! They'll fight for Donald!
 
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Your HS history teacher who was a Holocaust survivor deserves way more respect than to be used like this as a prop!!!!!!!!! This isn't an OK thing to do!
You honor the holocaust survivor but attack me for telling his story. My dad was stationed in Germany after the war. He was one of the first to see the concentration camps. He went back 20 years later to see the camps again. He said after 20 years he could still smell the burnt flesh.

I had a dorm father in Germany that was a member of Hitlers youth. At the end of the war he was sent to the Polish front and was captured and put into a prisoner of war camp. He lost one of his eyes when a guard knocked it out with the butt of his rifle. He did manage to excape when he cut down a small tree and used it as a pole volt to go over the fence to excape.

You are wrong, we need to tell the stories of the Holocaust because people need to know what went on in Germany at the time. My History teacher was also the Principal of the school. He was able to escape Germany and get out of harms way. He warned us that we need to keep up with current events because if this could happen in Germany this could happen anywhere.

He retired to Florida where the "Jewish" people have a reasonable amount of safety. There are people in harms way over in that situation with the Kurds. They should have evacuated and gotten out of there and gone to a place where they would be safe. Trump knew that he needed to evacuate our troops and get them out of harms way.
 
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