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Absolute proof of the deep state.

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what is the deep state?

a body of people, typically influential members of government agencies or the military, believed to be involved in the secret manipulation or control of government policy .... basically.
 
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a body of people, typically influential members of government agencies or the military, believed to be involved in the secret manipulation or control of government policy .... basically.
Are they opposed to
the one who hold the purse strings ? (control by money, very common practice)
 
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Are they opposed to
the one who hold the purse strings ? (control by money, very common practice)

who knows ... money involved ... likely? so much corruption in our government ... difficult to sort it all out.
 
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what is the deep state?


Like deep fried chicken, but without the deep or the frying. It’s the state, doing what states are supposed to do. Putting deep in front of it creates a boogeyman for those who want one.
 
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what is the deep state?

It's a pejorative term developed by the conspiracy-minded right to describe any government employee who doesn't pay fealty to our Gilded Leader.
 
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ETA:

*Sigh* . Once again I realise I have posted something with naughty words. Apologies.

Vid can be found by googling alexander downer is a deep state agent ABC
It's too bad some people can't live in the real world. Plus, "bad words" are so arbitrary; they only have the meaning humans foolishly apply to them.
 
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what is the deep state?

Unelected career political officials who remain in positions year in and year out of influence as elected governments come and go. The mere existence of the deep state is not a problem - the problem is when these bureaucrats, due to their own personal ideological leanings, use that influence to undermine the policies of duly elected political leadership.

It's a pejorative term developed by the conspiracy-minded right to describe any government employee who doesn't pay fealty to our Gilded Leader.

We already have a word for that - insubordination. In the private sector, it gets you fired on the spot.
 
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We already have a word for that - insubordination. In the private sector, it gets you fired on the spot.

No. That's ridiculous. Even in the private sector, a CEO doesn't have supreme authority over every aspect of the business. POTUS has even less authority over government employees (who enjoy more workplace protections than many private-sector workers), especially outside the executive branch.
 
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Putting deep in front of it creates a boogeyman for those who want one.

We must all remember that God is in ultimate control, He appoints all the government officials as He sees fit. The armed forces don't carry the sword just to look pretty, they wield it to protect us citizens. We must submit to our government as the Bible teaches.
 
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It's too bad some people can't live in the real world. Plus, "bad words" are so arbitrary; they only have the meaning humans foolishly apply to them.

Websites have rules, and I agreed to follow them when I signed up.
 
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The deep state are the unelected technocrats who either run or try to influence the government policies not necessarily in alignment with the will of the voters. They are the embedded shadow government.
Yes! Aren’t they great!
 
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the one who hold the purse strings ? (control by money, very common practice)

Yes.....

Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy
In 1972, the United States Treasury Department was asked to compute the amount of interest that would have been paid if that 400 million dollars would have been borrowed at interest instead of being issued by Abraham Lincoln. They did some computations, and a few weeks later, the United States Treasury Department said the United States Government saved 4 billion dollars in interest because Lincoln had created his own money. So you can about imagine how much the Government has paid and how much we owe solely on the basis of interest.
 
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Deep State. Formal name, the Civil Service. The people who run the day to day functions of government regardless of electoral shifts.

Most of them are benign. Like social security payment processors and the like.

Some of them are less than benign. They have agendas, desires, plans like all of us, really. But they have power. They have at their disposal the means to influence outcomes with calculated and slight inputs that few can tie back to them.

Congress-critters, military brass & private sector lobbyists make for interesting & devastating geopolitical 3-ways. This is what Eisenhower warned us about when he labeled this nebulous nexus of power, gun powder & money the, "Military-Industrial Complex".
 
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