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President's phone call transcript

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So, Party first.

I was in a conversation with a Republican earlier about this. He stated he believed, based on what has been released, that Trump is corrupt and deserves to be removed from office. But he went onto say that he wouldn't vote to impeach because of how it would hurt the country and how it would hurt Republicans. I then asked if he was saying that he thought Trump had acted illegally but that he didn't want Trump removed for political reasons -- and he told me "yes."

Definitely appears to be party first -- and at least this person was honest about it.
 
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It would be reassuring if the Republicans started putting their party first, instead of the Chosen One.

To be fair, in my case the person didn't seem interested in protecting Trump, merely the Republican Party. Trump getting off was just a side effect of protecting the party.
 
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When will Adam Schiff stop lying about the phone call?

The first time he was called on the lies he called it a parody, but no one was laughing.

Then again today. Same lies like they actually happened.
 
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So, Party first.
Do the Republicans want to remain in power or do the Republicans think the Democrats should be running the country?

If the Republicans help to remove Trump the election is definitely a lost cause.
 
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Do the Republicans want to remain in power or do the Republicans think the Democrats should be running the country?

If the Republicans help to remove Trump the election is definitely a lost cause.
So, Party first.
 
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Do the Republicans want to remain in power or do the Republicans think the Democrats should be running the country?

If the Republicans help to remove Trump the election is definitely a lost cause.

Besides if Trump was impeached that would be on the eve of the election anyway. So Trump will not be impeached by the Republicans.
 
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It would be reassuring if the Republicans started putting their party first, instead of the Chosen One.
They will.

Trump's WH staff may be appointees or fellow co conspirators and therefore are a little more willing to go down with the ship, but everyone will distance themselves from Trump before the end. Especially other Republican politicians. They need to survive him. Trump has zero loyalties to anyone and we all know that. We all know he will throw any and everyone under the bus before the buck stops with him.

It is for that reason that we can guarantee that the rest of the GOP is nervously eyeing the exits. Other than a few known sycophants the bulk of the GOP is awful quiet right now
 
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Many nagging details remain about the 'memo' of the call released by the White House. The text seems too short for the length of the call when compared to comparable phone calls. Markings on the document seem inconsistent with other transcripts, suggesting this was handled differently. And although the White House has described the ellipses as occasions when a speaker trailed off, this is inconsistent with how such a case has been handled in other such documents.

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The White House declined to comment Wednesday about the unusual markings or other apparent discrepancies. Shortly after the document’s release last week, a White House official had said that the ellipses did not indicate missing words but referred to “a trailing off of a voice or pause,” and called it standard practice for records of presidential phone calls.

Current and former officials said that would be slightly different from previous practice. They said when presidents simply trail off in a way that note-takers can’t hear, that point traditionally has been marked “[inaudible]." When fragments of sentences aren’t readily understood by note-takers, or when comments repeat a previous thought, they said, the transcripts had often been marked with dashes.

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The transcript of a 24-minute call with Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, in which both the participants spoke English, included roughly 3,200 words, or about 133 words per minute. A 53-minute call with then-Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto, in which both Trump and the Mexican president spoke through interpreters, included roughly 5,500 words, or about 102 words per minute.

The White House summary of Trump’s 30-minute call with Zelensky — which included interpreters because Zelensky spoke Ukrainian while Trump spoke English — includes fewer than 2,000 words, or roughly 65 words per minute.

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The record, however, is unusual for lacking a tracking number that would normally indicate it had been circulated to senior subject experts and the national security adviser’s office for review and edits. Instead of a “package” number, the memo released by the White House carries a stamp saying: “PkgNumberShort.”

The document additionally carries classification markings that Situation Room staffers do not normally add when they create a word-for-word transcript, current and former officials said.

“I thought to myself, ‘This didn’t go through the normal process,’ ” said one former government official who was among several who handled these records and found the document released by the White House curious.

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“The one that was released is not the one the Situation Room created,” said one person familiar with the creation of records of calls with foreign leaders who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the secretive process. “That’s just not possible.”
 
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So basically you just run against Trump, and you can no longer be investigated?
Not by Donald himself and not instigated by his office. This is why the DOJ has traditionally been kept independent of the president's influence beyond appointments and direction. If the FBI or CIA had independent reasons of their own for investigating, then, yes, it could and should be investigated, but not BECAUSE Donald points a finger at them.
 
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