Weather channel: Climate change more sever than previously thought

[Halbhh]

But don't you know that that climate expert, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, has informed us that Planet Earth has little more than 10 years anyway?

It reminds me of that truism that every ten years since oil was discovered it has been predicted that the world only has 10 more years before there isn't any more.

I remember very well hearing that prediction being made again--about 15 years ago. Today, the world is awash in the stuff.

AOC? That's who you think of when you think about climate? Something's going wrong there.

 

[Albion]

AOC? That's who you think of when you think about climate? Something's going wrong there.

You don't have much of a sense of humor, do you?

 

[Halbhh]

Hello Gracia,

What confuses me is that many of the people pushing climate change own gas guzzling cars, mansions, one climate change speaker even takes numerous flights in a private jet to speak at conferences.

I don't own a car, I have a bicycle. Why doesn't everyone cycle if they're so concerned? Some households seemingly concerned about 'climate change' have multiple cars. It seems to be paying lip service to 'climate change' which leads me to believe there is a bigger agenda.

God Bless

My background education is in physics and engineering, and it's not hard for me to evaluate graphs and science articles.

Climate is an unknown -- in large part unpredictable -- but it has become very political.

I'm not very political.

Here's a good metaphor. Climate is sorta like this:

We are all together in a bus riding on a mountain road which is unfamiliar.

The road ahead is around bends and not visible, and isn't known, in fact we can't guess much except to see what the road has done in the past up till now.

We only know about the past road and the current road immediately ahead a short distance....

With me so far?

Ok, someone in the bus has a instrument he's invented and claims the road ahead has some dangerous road condition.

Some other person in the bus claims he is being "Chicken Little".

You are the bus driver.

What do you do? Do you speed ahead, full speed?

Do you slow down some and take caution?

The road ahead is unknown, but it's obvious that higher speed has more risk, of course, just ordinary common sense.

 

[Albion]

My background education is in physics and engineering....

Ah! Yes, that might explain it.

 

[Halbhh]

Ah! Yes, that might explain it.

I've forgiven you already for trying to paint AOC onto me or other people talking about climate though, and then was amused in a good way -- none of us is perfect. We can be like a circus clown skit at times maybe. lol. Love you bro!

 

[MournfulWatcher]

But don't you know that that climate expert, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, has informed us that Planet Earth has little more than 10 years anyway?

It reminds me of that truism that every ten years since oil was discovered it has been predicted that the world only has 10 more years before there isn't any more.

I remember very well hearing that prediction being made again--about 15 years ago. Today, the world is awash in the stuff.

Cortez was taking a concerning new scientific study and over catastrophizing it. The study itself isn't saying the world will end in 10 years, it's estimating that we have 12 years to try and fix carbon emissions to lower the inevitable environmental damage that we will see grow worse over decades. The world won't end, but it will be radically different by the end of the century, and no one will be able to live the way we've grown used to living.

 

[miggles]

I know a lot of CF users don't believe in climate change. So I'm just reporting the news:

UN Panel Warns of 'Sweeping and Severe' Consequences of Climate Change | The Weather Channel

I should probably add the summary:

At a Glance

• The report was released by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
• Sea levels could rise up to 3 feet by the end of the century.
• The international team of scientists projected for the first time that some island nations will probably become uninhabitable.

lol. UN trying to get a dem president back in place.

 

[Halbhh]

I tend to be totally unworried about climate.

If a flood comes tomorrow and I'm in danger of drowning...I do not think I'll be worried for myself. I might get concerned for others, but even then I'll be at peace though.

Still, as believers, I'm starting to think it will be good for us in particular to remember a sort of special thing: there is a place we read that Christ gave us an actual forecast of a kind, only applicable though if it should be we enter into the special time being talked of nearer to the end time. It's odd to be the one pointing this out. I tend to be a very optimistic person that thinks we can engineer our way out of problems.... One could wonder if conditions are beginning to be set up for what will surely happen, what Christ said will happen (no engineering that away!). Of course, the signs for the end times are a very special situation, and we learn from His words that these signs are not to be taken as meaningful individually by themselves, but instead, He tells us, if it so happens we seem many of them together, like leaves on a tree, specifically (growing together like leaves budding out together, in mass). That particular climate-like sign about the oceans is in Luke chapter 21. I don't worry about it, but instead if it happens it would be important in a different way than worry: it could affect choices we make about when and how to tell the Good News to the lost, under what situations, possibly under more dramatic situations than we have been used to in the past. (Sorry if this is disturbing, but...well, it should not be disturbing, but instead exciting.)

 

[gideon123]

Current prediction is a rise of 36 cm for the ocean over the next 100 years. But since the trend is accelerating, a 1-meter rise is believable.

It may not sound like a big deal, esp. If you live in Idaho or Colorado. But it is a big deal to all the people who live in the S. Pacific. For example many islands in the Solomons are less that 6 feet above the waterline now. Hundreds of these islands will disappear.

Unfortunately, when climate scientists started this debate .. the argument became skewed. A lot has been said about ocean levels, but most people can cope with that. There are many other effects of climate change that are potentially a lot more serious and destructive. The costs will be very high.

 

[Halbhh]

Current prediction is a rise of 36 cm for the ocean over the next 100 years. But since the trend is accelerating, a 1-meter rise is believable.

It may not sound like a big deal, esp. If you live in Idaho or Colorado. But it is a big deal to all the people who live in the S. Pacific. For example many islands in the Solomons are less that 6 feet above the waterline now. Hundreds of these islands will disappear.

Unfortunately, when climate scientists started this debate .. the argument became skewed. A lot has been said about ocean levels, but most people can cope with that. There are many other effects of climate change that are potentially a lot more serious and destructive. The costs will be very high.

That's entirely correct. People wrongly have gotten the impression this is some political issue, some argument having to do with sides, one side vs another side. That's so misleading for them, to be tricked to think it's some political argument.

I was looking up a list of cities that have low elevation on the coasts of the U.S., which is an interesting list:

Note a key piece of information in this article:
"these numbers are averages, which means some areas would see higher levels, while others would be less affected."
That's so key: a crucial thing to know is that a small rise in the ocean level gets rather amplified in some places.

7 American cities that could disappear by 2100
(Here's an article that is very pragmatic in focus. If someone prefers a more big picture science style article, I'm sure we can find a good one that is readable)

Note that the projections are likely to be based on past estimates of sea level rise though, which we are learning lately are not as much as the actual rise will be.

 

[devin553344]

lol. UN trying to get a dem president back in place.

Yeah I'm starting to wonder that.

 

[AlexDTX]

I know a lot of CF users don't believe in climate change. So I'm just reporting the news:

UN Panel Warns of 'Sweeping and Severe' Consequences of Climate Change | The Weather Channel

I should probably add the summary:

At a Glance

• The report was released by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
• Sea levels could rise up to 3 feet by the end of the century.
• The international team of scientists projected for the first time that some island nations will probably become uninhabitable.

Did you also know that the Weather Channel is owned by IBM?

 

[Halbhh]

Yeah I'm starting to wonder that.

Well, I hope you'd not believe that rhetoric made to make it seem as if it's only some political one side vs the other. It's for real, but it's not that predictable! Want more real things? See my last 2 posts, please.

 

[dqhall]

I know a lot of CF users don't believe in climate change. So I'm just reporting the news:

UN Panel Warns of 'Sweeping and Severe' Consequences of Climate Change | The Weather Channel

I should probably add the summary:

At a Glance

• The report was released by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
• Sea levels could rise up to 3 feet by the end of the century.
• The international team of scientists projected for the first time that some island nations will probably become uninhabitable.

The current rate of sea level rise is 1/8 inch per year. I live in Florida about 15 ft above sea level. I calculated if current sea level rise is constant, my lot will be hit by waves at mean tide in 1440 years. By then most oil, gas and coal will be gone.

 

[lismore]

Here's a good metaphor.

Hello Halbhh. Thanks for your reply. To use your metaphor of the bus, a lot of people telling the driver to slow down are not on the bus, they're in a porsche driving alongside at 100mph! For example, Harry Windsor and Meghan Markle, gave a bland speech on climate change, the week before they did four unnecessary trips on private jets, leaving a bigger carbon footprint than King Kong.

What's the agenda here? God Bless

 

[eleos1954]

I know a lot of CF users don't believe in climate change. So I'm just reporting the news:

UN Panel Warns of 'Sweeping and Severe' Consequences of Climate Change | The Weather Channel

I should probably add the summary:

At a Glance

• The report was released by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
• Sea levels could rise up to 3 feet by the end of the century.
• The international team of scientists projected for the first time that some island nations will probably become uninhabitable.

key words ... could .... probably

they aren't convinced themselves

 

[Robin Mauro]

I know a lot of CF users don't believe in climate change. So I'm just reporting the news:

UN Panel Warns of 'Sweeping and Severe' Consequences of Climate Change | The Weather Channel

I should probably add the summary:

At a Glance

• The report was released by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
• Sea levels could rise up to 3 feet by the end of the century.
• The international team of scientists projected for the first time that some island nations will probably become uninhabitable.

I've read through some of the responses to this and am too disheartened to read on.
The thing is, the oil companies knew. They have known for 20 years or more. Trump knows, even though he denies it. He is building a sea wall in Ireland to protect one of his golf courses from sea level rise. And regardless of if we believe what 95 percent of climate scientists have determined, we all know the detrimental effects of pollution.
We all know we need clean air and water and land, free from pollutants. And we all know what happens to people's health when the air and water and land become corrupted.
And we all know who profits from deregulation and climate change denial...muliti-national corporations who only care about profit and do not care who they harm.
Follow the money.
"The love of money is the root of all evil."
"Love your neighbor as yourself."
We cannot love our neighbor as ourselves if we refuse to see their suffering.
So, regardless of if people choose to deny climate change, we are still without excuse, because we all know pollution is harmful and that we need clean energy.
The scam is not from globalists. The scam is put forth by polluting industries, multi-national corporations, and those who profit from them; profit from destroying the earth. And only 3 or 4 corporations own 90 plus percent of the media. And it's what they leave out- what we don't hear from them that does as much or more harm than the twisted versions of what is true that we do hear.
Get some public, not for profit radio people. Watch PBS news programs. At least hear both sides. Be willing to listen to what people are going through.
Revelation 11:18... He will destroy those who destroy the earth.
He loves his creation; the people, the animals, the waters, and he
knows we need them.
We cannot love our neighbors as ourselves if we do not care for their environments. Everything is connected.
God bless Gretta Thunburg (sp?) .
Empower, protect and keep her Lord.

 

[Halbhh]

Hello Halbhh. Thanks for your reply. To use your metaphor of the bus, a lot of people telling the driver to slow down are not on the bus, they're in a porsche driving alongside at 100mph! For example, Harry Windsor and Meghan Markle, gave a bland speech on climate change, the week before they did four unnecessary trips on private jets, leaving a bigger carbon footprint than King Kong.

What's the agenda here? God Bless

I don't know their situation, but I'm a believer and can know some real things about climate, which isn't very predictable, but does have some interesting trends we can simply consider without claiming to understand all that may happen. It's a lot like driving a bus: faster can be more risky depending on where the bus is.

 

[lismore]

What's the agenda here?

Perhaps it could be:

'It's a global climate change emergency and we urgently need a global solution. We need a global government with a supreme leader. National sovereignty will not be relevant in light of the crisis. For efficiency we need one global financial system, no-one will be allowed to buy or sell apart from the system. To care for spiritual needs and to ensure compliance we need a global inter-faith church. The pope is popular and has shown aptitude for inter-faith relations, he can head this up assisted by the Dalai Lama, Kenneth Copeland and Joel Olsteen. Bible-fundies are not very numerous and can be discounted. Jerusalem and 'peace' will be a point of contention, but a false treaty can be offered to Israel and broken later'

 

[Blade]

Lol...yeah not to many years back the UN I believe told everyone we had 11 years. Well that came and went.. time to bring it up again I guess.