Donald Trump Being Called Racist

[childeye 2]

Oh, ok... so change the topic a little and use some semantics to not face reality. Sanders would like black 3rd world babies aborted... not me, not Trump, not most sane people.

Take care.

Sanders never said that. He indicated that poor countries should be assisted in their efforts to control their population if the people of those countries want to. It's unethical to spread gossip that he wants to murder black third world babies.

 

[Ken Rank]

Sanders never said that. He indicated that poor countries should be assisted in their efforts to control their population if the people of those countries want to. It's unethical to spread gossip that he wants to murder black third world babies.

Unless I am wrong, you said you didn't watch the debate. He did say it, I cut and copied it directly from the transcripts AND I heard the audio version. He said it... you can deny it all you want to but doing so doesn't change anything.

 

[Hank77]

All right, that's one black musician immortalizing Trump (who didn't call Trump a racist after he started his presidential campaign). However, you said "and other black artists." What other black artists?

No, Prince didn't write the song about Trump. Here's the lyrics.
The Time – Donald Trump (Black Version) Lyrics | Genius Lyrics

At least 75% of the songs that Trump, Trump Tower, Trump Inc./casinos written before 2016, even the really old stuff was about wishing they had the money or they had the money that Trump did/does. I didn't see a whole lot that was actually about Trump the man or his character.
Donald Trump in music - Wikipedia

 

[Hank77]

Sanders claiming world population control would be well served to fund abortions in those nations which are all minority races... is racist. It is this topic... going to claim Trump is but can't allow facts that expose the side you've chosen? If Trump had said that we need to fund abortions in 3rd world nations to aid in the attempt to control climate change.... the media would have NEVER dropped that one until somebody else sat in the Oval Office. Sanders says it and you really have to dig around to find it and then only on Conservative sites we are not supposed to believe anyway? LOL

During CNN’s September 4 climate town halls, an audience member asked Bernie Sanders whether he would support “empowering women and educating everyone on the need to curb population growth” as a potential “key feature of a plan to address climate catastrophe.”

Sanders responded “yes” and noted that people in the United States “have a right to control their own bodies and make reproductive decisions.” Sanders also referenced a rule known as the Mexico City policy, which was reinstated by President Donald Trump in 2017. The policy prohibits international organizations from receiving U.S. funding if they perform or refer for abortions, even though federal money itself cannot support abortion care. Sanders said it’s “absurd” to deny “American aid to those organizations around the world that allow women to have abortions or even get involved in birth control” and noted that he supports allowing women, “especially in poor countries” who “do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies” to “control the number of kids they have” via birth control.

Seeing it was said at a CNN sponsored town hall CNN covered it as well as the Washington Post and a few others.

 

[childeye 2]

Unless I am wrong, you said you didn't watch the debate. He did say it, I cut and copied it directly from the transcripts AND I heard the audio version. He said it... you can deny it all you want to but doing so doesn't change anything.

SANDERS: Well, Martha, the answer is yes. And the answer has everything to do with the fact that women in the United States of America, by the way, have a right to control their own bodies and make reproductive decisions.

What he says here is generally true. Women can get abortions and can use birth control if they want to in the U.S.A. There's no prejudice being displayed here.

And the Mexico City agreement, which denies American aid to those organizations around the world that are — that allow women to have abortions or even get involved in birth control, to me is totally absurd.

In context with the prior statement, it sounds to me like he finds it hypocritical that other countries should be disallowed what America is allowed. That's his opinion, but it's not prejudice.

So I think, especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies, and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have, it’s something I very, very strongly support.

Sanders just reiterates that in poor countries where and if women don't want to have large numbers of babies, they should be allowed to have access to birth control just like in America. I'm sorry but I don't see any prejudice here nor any sentiment that displays the racial hatred necessary to murder black babies.

I think you just saw the word abortion and thought murder, and then projected your bias on Mr. Sanders.

 

[Hank77]

OK.....

Questioner: Good evening. Human population growth has more than doubled in the past 50 years. The planet cannot sustain this growth. I realize this is a poisonous topic for politicians, but it’s crucial to face. Empowering women and educating everyone on the need to curb population growth seems a reasonable campaign to enact. Would you be courageous enough to discuss this issue and make it a key feature of a plan to address climate catastrophe?

SANDERS: Well, Martha, the answer is yes. And the answer has everything to do with the fact that women in the United States of America, by the way, have a right to control their own bodies and make reproductive decisions.

And the Mexico City agreement, which denies American aid to those organizations around the world that are — that allow women to have abortions or even get involved in birth control, to me is totally absurd. So I think, especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies, and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have, it’s something I very, very strongly support.

>> In short.... Martha makes a claim that has no scientific merit (population growth not sustainable) and without Martha raising the topic of abortion, Sanders does and he laments that the US is not funding abortions in 3rd world countries. Doing so, is something he "strongly supports."

That isn't propaganda, that is Sanders' own words and they are racist because he desires to help prevent global catastrophe by using US tax dollars to specifically fund abortions in 3rd world nations, pretty much all of which are filled with minorities.

He's supporting pro-choice just as he does in the US.

 

[childeye 2]

He's supporting pro-choice just as he does in the US.

Exactly.

 

[Hank77]

He could have picked a pro-choice judge... he didn't, he respected life enough to not go there.

He couldn't have chosen a pro-choice judge and kept his pro-life voter base. He made them a promise which he kept.

 

[GACfan]

No, Prince didn't write the song about Trump. Here's the lyrics.
The Time – Donald Trump (Black Version) Lyrics | Genius Lyrics

At least 75% of the songs that Trump, Trump Tower, Trump Inc./casinos written before 2016, even the really old stuff was about wishing they had the money or they had the money that Trump did/does. I didn't see a whole lot that was actually about Trump the man or his character.
Donald Trump in music - Wikipedia

Thank you for this information, Hank.

 

[GACfan]

He's supporting pro-choice just as he does in the US.

A lot of his supporters get defensive and claim they don't support Hillary Clinton because she's pro-choice and supports abortion, but Trump is also PRO-CHOICE and he supports abortion too. It's a bit disingenuous to shun Hillary Clinton and condemn her for supporting abortion when Trump also supports abortion. The only difference between him and Hillary Clinton both being pro-choice is that he panders to conservative Christians and uses their support for his own political advancement.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I think context seems to escape many folks when this topic comes up...

Many conservatives like to point out all of the connections he had to various black people/groups/etc... prior to his presidential campaign as evidence that "see, he's not a racist". (IE: posting all of the pics of him hanging out with Don King, Sharpton, a few different rappers, etc...)

And while I don't personally think he, as an individual, is necessarily racist...it'd be disingenuous to not acknowledge that he certainly acquired some interesting allies over the course of his presidential run, and seemingly didn't want to step on their toes or say anything that would alienate their support.

When you see KKK members and people toting confederate flags also holding up signs expressing their allegiance to Trump, one has to at least acknowledge the fact that he must have said/expressed/supported something that gave them the impression he was on their side. So if they, themselves, got the impression he was on their side, it's not unreasonable to see how people on the other side of the political fence would've gotten that impression too, especially considering the fact that on many cases, it was like pulling teeth to get him to repudiate those types of endorsements. He even went as far as pretending to not know who David Duke was (after being on record numerous times criticizing Duke back when he identified as a member of the reform party)

 

[St. Helens]

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[bèlla]

No, Prince didn't write the song about Trump. Here's the lyrics.
The Time – Donald Trump (Black Version) Lyrics | Genius Lyrics

Donald Trump (Black Version) is the seventh track (fifth song) on The Time's fourth and final album Pandemonium. Donald Trump (Black Version) was written and produced by Prince, but was credited to The Time. Prince plays most instruments on the track.

The song is named after American business magnate, socialite, author and television personality Donald Trump. The parenthetical part of the title does not indicate that more than one "version" of the song exists; it refers to the singer being the "black version" of Donald Trump.

Prince controlled and produced all the material they came out with. He even owned the rights to the band name. You can see the band’s history here.

 

[Ken Rank]

During CNN’s September 4 climate town halls, an audience member asked Bernie Sanders whether he would support “empowering women and educating everyone on the need to curb population growth” as a potential “key feature of a plan to address climate catastrophe.”

Sanders responded “yes” and noted that people in the United States “have a right to control their own bodies and make reproductive decisions.” Sanders also referenced a rule known as the Mexico City policy, which was reinstated by President Donald Trump in 2017. The policy prohibits international organizations from receiving U.S. funding if they perform or refer for abortions, even though federal money itself cannot support abortion care. Sanders said it’s “absurd” to deny “American aid to those organizations around the world that allow women to have abortions or even get involved in birth control” and noted that he supports allowing women, “especially in poor countries” who “do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies” to “control the number of kids they have” via birth control.

Seeing it was said at a CNN sponsored town hall CNN covered it as well as the Washington Post and a few others.

You've missed the point. Here is the question, I have made bold the comments which make this about climate change.

"Human population growth has more than doubled in the past 50 years. The planet cannot sustain this growth. I realize this is a poisonous topic for politicians, but it’s crucial to face. Empowering women and educating everyone on the need to curb population growth seems a reasonable campaign to enact. Would you be courageous enough to discuss this issue and make it a key feature of a plan to address climate catastrophe?"

>>So, planet is dying, we all know because our us (according to the Left), over population is leading to "climate catastrophe." And Sanders replies:

"So I think, especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies, and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have, it’s something I very, very strongly support."

In context, he is supporting the notion of abortion as a means to control population and stave off climate catastrophe. It's pretty clear by his own words and the context.

 

[Ken Rank]

What he says here is generally true. Women can get abortions and can use birth control if they want to in the U.S.A. There's no prejudice being displayed here.

In context with the prior statement, it sounds to me like he finds it hypocritical that other countries should be disallowed what America is allowed. That's his opinion, but it's not prejudice.

Sanders just reiterates that in poor countries where and if women don't want to have large numbers of babies, they should be allowed to have access to birth control just like in America. I'm sorry but I don't see any prejudice here nor any sentiment that displays the racial hatred necessary to murder black babies.

I think you just saw the word abortion and thought murder, and then projected your bias on Mr. Sanders.

I do see abortion as murder, as by the time a woman even learns she is pregnant there is a beating heart, DNA is written making it a unique human being, and if she finds out late enough, there is ALREADY brain activity. So yes, it's murder. That aside, the question for Sander below... I have made bold and colored certain parts to make my point clear:

"Human population growth has more than doubled in the past 50 years. The planet cannot sustain this growth. I realize this is a poisonous topic for politicians, but it’s crucial to face. Empowering women and educating everyone on the need to curb population growth seems a reasonable campaign to enact. Would you be courageous enough to discuss this issue and make it a key feature of a plan to address climate catastrophe?"

>> Sanders then replies:

"So I think, especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies, and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have, it’s something I very, very strongly support."

So in response the claim that overpopulation is leading to climate catastrophe, Sanders says he is supporting the notion of abortion as a means to control population and stave off climate catastrophe. But the abortion he singles out here is in 3rd world nations only. Why not first world white dominated nations? Well... maybe he isn't a racist? But his conclusion here is as off the wall as anything I have heard in 53 years.

We have Trump being called a racist because he openly stood against illegal aliens from entering this country... which we all SHOULD support or else being a citizen means nothing. And Sanders promotes abortions in 3rd world nations as a means to save the Earth and crickets. Oh well...

Peace.
Ken

 

[Ken Rank]

He couldn't have chosen a pro-choice judge and kept his pro-life voter base. He made them a promise which he kept.

He could have done anything he wanted Hank. If he was really a lefty, then with 4 years and at least 2 judges, he could have swung the courts to be pro-choice for 20+ years. Instead, he might have set back the pro-choice movement 20+ years especially if he gets one more judge to choose. Actions speak louder than words.

But, I am out of this thread. I would far rather discuss bible topics.

 

[DaisyDay]

You've missed the point. Here is the question, I have made bold the comments which make this about climate change.

"Human population growth has more than doubled in the past 50 years. The planet cannot sustain this growth. I realize this is a poisonous topic for politicians, but it’s crucial to face. Empowering women and educating everyone on the need to curb population growth seems a reasonable campaign to enact. Would you be courageous enough to discuss this issue and make it a key feature of a plan to address climate catastrophe?"

>>So, planet is dying, we all know because our us (according to the Left), over population is leading to "climate catastrophe." And Sanders replies:

"So I think, especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies, and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have, it’s something I very, very strongly support."

In context, he is supporting the notion of abortion as a means to control population and stave off climate catastrophe. It's pretty clear by his own words and the context.

It's pretty clear Sanders is talking about women having access to birth control. From how you were going on before, I half expected to have him rubbing his hands together in glee at the prospect of dead black babies.

 

[Ken Rank]

It's pretty clear Sanders is talking about women having access to birth control. From how you were going on before, I half expected to have him rubbing his hands together in glee at the prospect of dead black babies.

I don't believe he is evil, at least by social standards. I think his statement was ignorant and an example of why live TV and radio is dangerous but the bottom line is we are looking at a guy who believes abortion... the killing of genetic human being with heart beats who are genetically different then their host (mother)..... is going to "save people." Killing one to save another is barbaric. I will leave this thread with that.

Peace Miss Daisy.

 

[Hank77]

Donald Trump (Black Version) is the seventh track (fifth song) on The Time's fourth and final album Pandemonium. Donald Trump (Black Version) was written and produced by Prince, but was credited to The Time. Prince plays most instruments on the track.

The song is named after American business magnate, socialite, author and television personality Donald Trump. The parenthetical part of the title does not indicate that more than one "version" of the song exists; it refers to the singer being the "black version" of Donald Trump.

Prince controlled and produced all the material they came out with. He even owned the rights to the band name. You can see the band’s history here.

I think maybe I wasn't clear. Prince didn't write the song ABOUT Donald Trump, not about Trump's character, etc. He is writing about Trump's wealth, his 'green'/or money being what the girl needs/wants. This is the 'black version' of Trump.

 

[Hank77]

You've missed the point. Here is the question, I have made bold the comments which make this about climate change.

"Human population growth has more than doubled in the past 50 years. The planet cannot sustain this growth. I realize this is a poisonous topic for politicians, but it’s crucial to face. Empowering women and educating everyone on the need to curb population growth seems a reasonable campaign to enact. Would you be courageous enough to discuss this issue and make it a key feature of a plan to address climate catastrophe?"

>>So, planet is dying, we all know because our us (according to the Left), over population is leading to "climate catastrophe." And Sanders replies:

"So I think, especially in poor countries around the world where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies, and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have, it’s something I very, very strongly support."

In context, he is supporting the notion of abortion as a means to control population and stave off climate catastrophe. It's pretty clear by his own words and the context.

No, you missed my point. I was responding to this portion of your statement.
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Sanders says it and you really have to dig around to find it and then only on Conservative sites we are not supposed to believe anyway? LOL

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