Why are animal sacrifices done in the Millennial Temple

[Jipsah]

Because Christianity was not a separate religion from Judaism - and never should have developed into one.

The Old Covenant is gone. we're under the New Covenant now.

 

[Shrewd Manager]

Yes a new temple the Lord will not return to the temple of anti-christ having been destroyed so it would choice made out of necessity.

No they will not be dealing with their sin this will be the faithful remnant who has come to Messiah and who have been imprisoned and worse by anti- Christ and the apostate portion of Israel who have accepted the delusion of anti-christ seeming to be their long waited for Messiah

The thousand years are the time when the faithful remnant as the already purified Royal nation of priests serve in teaching the Gentile nations remnant that is completely apostate at this time through the same system used by the Lord to make these same truths known to Israel. Unfortunately in the people of Israel there are two streams of people one is the remnant that has believed in every generation while the other stream within Israel has, continues and will be there at the end when anti-Christ, the false prophet and all but the faithful remnant are destroyed. That faithful remnant will escape through the valley created when Christ returns to the Mount of Olives. These who have trusted in the Lord are those having believed in the true Messiah during these thousand years are the Royal nation of priests.

At the end of the thousand years Satan is released from the abyss where anti-christ had been held prisoner until the beginning of the 70th week of Daniel’s prophecy. This is the seven year period called the Tribulation. The tribulation is going to be so over the top with the things taking place in the world that He had to cut them short or no man would survive. At the end of the 70th week anti-christ and the false prophet are defeated apostate Israel is destroyed. Now Armageddon begins were anti-Christ, the false prophet and the armies who aligned with them will be destroyed. Interestingly if we remove the error of a 200 million man army supposedly coming from China for what they actually are we can understand why the days might need to be shortened. This army is not going to be human they are satan’s fallen angels as it was in the days of Noah when fallen angels, including anti-christ were in this world these are the locust seen coming up out of the Abyss. No humans, Chinese or otherwise, are in the Abyss. 200,000,000 fallen angels led by the Destroyer anti- Christ

Wow! So where are we at as of now?

 

[Vicky gould]

Wow! So where are we at as of now?

We are waiting for our Bridegroom who is coming to remove His Bride. Yes the Rapture because the Bride is seen coming down out of heaven where she has prepared herself for her Husband. In the Jewish way the man proposes to His Bride makes all that he will do for Her she signals her acceptance by drinking the cup he gives her. We reenact this when we do this in memory of Him. An act of the Bride expressing her faith in Him And all He said. After the betrothal the man returns to his fathers home and prepares a place for her. When the Father gives the okay the Son to go and get His Bride and bring her home for the Wedding Supper of the Lamb the Son comes in secret for His Bride and takes her to the Father’s house. Even so come Lord Jesus, Amen!

Just how close we are to the Father sending the Son for His Bride I haven’t a clue. But I have the faith it’s coming He’s given His promises.

 

[Vicky gould]

No, it doesn't. Ezekiel's temple is NOT the "millennial temple". In fact, there is no such thing.

Sorry if I have offended you thank you for seeking to sharpen me. God bless

 

[Dave-W]

The Old Covenant is gone. we're under the New Covenant now.

Yes, but I suspect you see the 2 as being totally separate. Not the case at all. The New is built on the Mosaic which was built on the Abrahamic. It was a smooth transition with a LOT of continuity and carry-over.

 

[Dave L]

The scripture doesn't say what we want it to say. That's why a system of rules is used to interpret scripture.

Concerning end times, covenant theology has tossed those rules aside.

We read in Rev. 20 that 2 resurrections are separated by 1000 years. that Satan is locked up for this period of time. Then some say the 1000 years is not literal but spiritual.

Hogwash, you bear the burden of presenting proof.

You are reading a physical kingdom into Revelation 20 (adding to the book of Revelation). Study the book from the historic Church's point of view, not from the 1800s departure from the Church view.

 

[Christ is Lord]

This podcast goes into great detail about these oddities.
Part 1
Part 2

Nice! You listen to the Naked Bible too?

 

[Andrewn]

When the Father gives the okay the Son to go and get His Bride and bring her home for the Wedding Supper of the Lamb the Son comes in secret for His Bride and takes her to the Father’s house.

The groom doesn't kidnap his bride secretly to elope. Actually, he goes with his family and friends to the bride's house and have a huge party before he takes her home in a big celebration.

All Dispensational belief systems break down at this point.

 

[AlexDTX]

Before responding to your points I must say, I do not know why Ezekiel has a vision of a temple with sacrifice re-instated. I am merely answering her question as if the doctrine of the millennium were correct. I have read commentary saying that Ezekiel's temple was the plan for Ezra and Zerubbabel to build after release from Babylon. But the measurements of Ezekiel's temple are massive and what was built pale in comparison. I've been to Israel and have seen the model for Ezekiel's temple made by the Temple Institute in Jerusalem. It is a skyscraper, not the simple 3 story structure of Solomon. They are serious about building Ezekiel's temple if they get the chance. We could say it is just their zealous desire to restore the temple, but why did God give Ezekiel such detailed and specific instructions?

Now, and forevermore, Human beings are either "in Adam", Just as before the law was given to Moses, and Condemned to Death whether they sin or not, or they are "in Christ" saved even though they are sinners.

Individual Sins are no longer the measuring Stick God uses to determine ones salvation status, in fact, ONLY sinners Get saved.

This is correct. Sin and death are in Adam, and before the Mosaic law all still died even though there was no law and sin was not imputed to them. But that is not the point. The point is awareness of sin. Without the law awareness of sin was mitigated. The conscience and heart had the knowledge of right and wrong, but hardness of heart is the fallen condition. The law was given to increase awareness of sin. This is why I speculate that the temple and sacrifice would be reinstated for those born during that time who remained in Adam to make them aware of their sin. At the end of that thousand years, those who realized their sin and need for salvation, would be like the Old Testament saints in Heb 11.

Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
Heb 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.​

OT saints believed in the promise of the coming Messiah, but died in faith without the new birth. It seems to me then, that they are made perfect without sin as Adam was before the fall, but not glorified as the Church will be with Christ. If my assessment is correct, those who believe in the salvation of Christ would also be saved, but not part of the glory of the Church like the OT saints.

Will they/we look like Moses and Elijah did on the mount at the transfiguration when they appeared in their glorified Bodies??

The disciples saw them in their glory, even recognized exactly who they were, yet that vision in no way prevented them form understanding that they (disciples) were still sinful mortals in need of a savior, so your cause/effect scenario doesn't seem to hold up to the scriptural evidence.

When I shared the story of Adam naming the animals, I did not state all that God was showing me. Adam did not name the animals at all. God did. What Adam did was see into the spirits and restated the names that God used to speak the animals into existence. Likewise, when he saw the woman he saw into her spirit and realized that it was his own.

Moses and Elijah were not glorified like Christ and the Church. They were perfected like Adam before the fall. However, that is not relevant because none of the disciples had ever seen Moses nor Elijah before, even if they appeared as ordinary fallen men. They knew who they were in the spirit, just as Peter, by the Father speaking to his spirit, was able to declare that Jesus was the Messiah.

Mat_16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.​

Where is the evidence that Christ's once for all sacrifice on the cross, at that point, becomes null and void, indeed becomes wholly ineffectual for the redemption of those mortals, and instead the resurrection of an obsolete, vanished, less effective covenant where the blood of Bulls and goats is shed to atone for sins, must be set back up?

The blood of bulls and goats NEVER atoned for anyone sins. They were types and shadows of the sacrifice that Christ would provide to teach them about Christ's sacrifice to come. All OT saints who were saved were saved by their faith in the promise of the coming Redeemer.

Isa_59:20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.​

Likewise, in the millennium, all those born during that time who understand the teaching of the sacrifice and put their faith in the redemption already done by Christ, will be saved in the end, but will not be part of the glorified Church. They will be saved just like the OT saints who believed God's promise of Messiah.

But, honestly, I am merely speaking academically. I am a point in my walk with Christ that I believe we will all be wrong in our assumptions about the future just as the Jews who believed Jesus would come as a conquering king to overthrow Rome were wrong.

I am skeptical of all doctrines of eschatology. We know that in both Daniel and Revelations both writers are told to not write what they saw (Dan. 12:9 & Rev. 10:4), and Jesus told his disciples,

Mat_24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.​

In other words, God does not want us to know everything because he wants us to watch and pray as things unfold, and to be ready when things happen unexpectedly. There is nothing wrong in speculating and thinking upon what we do know as recorded in Holy Writ, but our confidence must always remain in Christ, not our understanding.

 

[Brian Mcnamee]

Please consider the spiritual nature of the Kingdom:

“And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” (Matthew 3:2) (KJV 1900)

“And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.” (Matthew 11:12) (KJV 1900)

“Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matthew 16:28) (KJV 1900)

“Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.” (1 Corinthians 15:50)

“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3) (KJV 1900)

“Jesus answered, “I tell you the solemn truth, unless a person is born of water and spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.” (John 3:5)

“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” (John 18:36) (KJV 1900)

“And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:” (Luke 17:20) (KJV 1900)

“Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.” (Luke 17:21) (KJV 1900)

“But if I cast out demons by the finger of God, then the kingdom of God has already overtaken you.” (Luke 11:20)

“because we are not looking at what can be seen but at what cannot be seen. For what can be seen is temporary, but what cannot be seen is eternal.” (2 Corinthians 4:18)

“Now when the people saw the miraculous sign that Jesus performed, they began to say to one another, “This is certainly the Prophet who is to come into the world.” Then Jesus, because he knew they were going to come and seize him by force to make him king, withdrew again up the mountainside alone.” (John 6:14–15)

“He delivered us from the power of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of the Son he loves,” (Colossians 1:13)

“When Jesus saw that he answered intelligently, He said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And no one dared to question Him any longer.” (Mark 12:34) (HCSB)

“for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.” (Romans 14:17) (HCSB)

“I, John, your brother and fellow partaker in the tribulation and kingdom and perseverance which are in Jesus, was on the island called Patmos because of the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.” Revelation 1:9 (NASB95)

Your acceptance of the spiritual aspect of the nature of these prophecies has blinded your ability to the consideration that the literal aspect is congruent with each other and current events are tracking with in those literal interpretations. This is like two lawyers claiming to have won the case while the deliberations are taking place and no verdict has been rendered. The temple is a theme that is moving forward and should the 3rd temple come into being that is the very literal stage that would make for a possible literal antichrist to be revealed at that time. The prince who shall come mentioned in Dan 9 is to stop the daily sacrifices in the middle of the week. Jesus noted the abomination of desolation was future. 2 Thes says the man of sin is revealed when he exalts himself in the temple as if he were God. Rev 13 shows the beast given power by the dragon is the same guy mentioned in 2 Thes and he is given power and dominion over every tribe tongue kindred and nation for exactly 42 months which would coincide with the sacrifices being stopped at that point. Note he obtains the power at this point he did not have it prior. He is not revealed by signing the covenant with the many so perhaps a delegation of leaders is part of that covenant and he is revealed at the point of abomination. The spiritual aspect pushes all the reign of righteousness off to the new Jerusalem and I see it as a righteous reign for a 1000 years. 3 places it says David will be raised up. Hosea is speaking of Israel national when he says where it was said you are not my people you shall be called sons of the living God.
The next temple is going to be for the antichrist and the 4th for the millennium. IN Zech 14 when the LORD is king over all the earth the nations from that point on must keep the feast of Tabernacles or they get no rain. It says in that day there will no longer be a Canaanite in the house of the LORD. Amazing that the edict to utterly drive them out is accomplished when the LORD comes.
There are sometime ideas that might seem contradictory and yet when thought out they are parallel like free will and election. Both are true. God elected those who through free will would respond based on His foreknowledge. The spiritual kingdom of being saved is true and I have conceded that there is a thing as spiritual Israel. The parallel idea that national Israel has prophetic destiny is not flushed down the toilet because of it. These are parallel in the same way free will and election are. I can compile every theme and believe them in a literal sense and it makes sense without contradiction.

 

[Sanoy]

Nice! You listen to the Naked Bible too?

Oh yeah. Love Heiser work. Really want to make this podcast cruise too, but the $ is going to be an obstacle.

 

[Dave L]

Your acceptance of the spiritual aspect of the nature of these prophecies has blinded your ability to the consideration that the literal aspect is congruent with each other and current events are tracking with in those literal interpretations. This is like two lawyers claiming to have won the case while the deliberations are taking place and no verdict has been rendered. The temple is a theme that is moving forward and should the 3rd temple come into being that is the very literal stage that would make for a possible literal antichrist to be revealed at that time. The prince who shall come mentioned in Dan 9 is to stop the daily sacrifices in the middle of the week. Jesus noted the abomination of desolation was future. 2 Thes says the man of sin is revealed when he exalts himself in the temple as if he were God. Rev 13 shows the beast given power by the dragon is the same guy mentioned in 2 Thes and he is given power and dominion over every tribe tongue kindred and nation for exactly 42 months which would coincide with the sacrifices being stopped at that point. Note he obtains the power at this point he did not have it prior. He is not revealed by signing the covenant with the many so perhaps a delegation of leaders is part of that covenant and he is revealed at the point of abomination. The spiritual aspect pushes all the reign of righteousness off to the new Jerusalem and I see it as a righteous reign for a 1000 years. 3 places it says David will be raised up. Hosea is speaking of Israel national when he says where it was said you are not my people you shall be called sons of the living God.
The next temple is going to be for the antichrist and the 4th for the millennium. IN Zech 14 when the LORD is king over all the earth the nations from that point on must keep the feast of Tabernacles or they get no rain. It says in that day there will no longer be a Canaanite in the house of the LORD. Amazing that the edict to utterly drive them out is accomplished when the LORD comes.
There are sometime ideas that might seem contradictory and yet when thought out they are parallel like free will and election. Both are true. God elected those who through free will would respond based on His foreknowledge. The spiritual kingdom of being saved is true and I have conceded that there is a thing as spiritual Israel. The parallel idea that national Israel has prophetic destiny is not flushed down the toilet because of it. These are parallel in the same way free will and election are. I can compile every theme and believe them in a literal sense and it makes sense without contradiction.

Jesus refuted the Pharisee's Millennium using these same verses.

 

[Christ is Lord]

Oh yeah. Love Heiser work. Really want to make this podcast cruise too, but the $ is going to be an obstacle.

I would love to go as well. Unfortunately, circumstances won’t permit me to go.

 

[fhansen]

Scripture tells us that the Millennial Temple will once again have animal sacrifices. Your thoughts

Believers have toyed with the idea of a 1000 year reign since the beginning. One of the hallmark periods was actually 1000 AD when people gave up their belongings and waited for the Lord to arrive. When He didn't show up some recalculated and figured they must've been off a year or so.
The same scenario has played itself out again and again, with different dating systems used based on varying interpretations of certain Scriptural passages. For it's part, FWIW, the Catholic church has taught against millennialism or chiliasm for centuries.

 

[parousia70]

Believers have toyed with the idea of a 1000 year reign since the beginning. One of the hallmark periods was actually 1000 AD when people gave up their belongings and waited for the Lord to arrive. When He didn't show up some recalculated and figured they must've been off a year or so.
The same scenario has played itself out again and again, with different dating systems used based on varying interpretations of certain Scriptural passages. For it's part, FWIW, the Catholic church has taught against millennialism or chiliasm for centuries.

Just Google "the great disappointment of 1844'... that event was the Birth of Modern millennialism.

And they've been moving the goalposts ever since...

 

[parousia70]

Because Christianity was not a separate religion from Judaism - and never should have developed into one.

The Scriptures are indeed quite clear.
Israel survived beyond the first century *exclusively* in the sect of the Nazarenes. They received with joy their promised New Covenant and obediently rejected all former biases against the non-Abrahamic families of earth so that Genesis 12:3 might finally be attained (Gal 3:7-9/Rom 4:13-18)---via the work of the Jewish Messiah.

This sole surviving form of covenant Judaism is known worldwide as Christianity, the Jewish church gone global. The church always was the covenanted Israel, the church continues to be the covenanted Israel.

 

[Vicky gould]

Believers have toyed with the idea of a 1000 year reign since the beginning. One of the hallmark periods was actually 1000 AD when people gave up their belongings and waited for the Lord to arrive. When He didn't show up some recalculated and figured they must've been off a year or so.
The same scenario has played itself out again and again, with different dating systems used based on varying interpretations of certain Scriptural passages. For it's part, FWIW, the Catholic church has taught against millennialism or chiliasm for centuries.

if this millennium is not going to happen and just is a figment of our imagination running wild in Scripture so much time spent on a non existing thousand years, temple, temple sacrifice and the rest Scripture details? Just filler by the Holy Spirit's ministry with those He used to write these things?

 

[Dave-W]

Israel survived beyond the first century *exclusively* in the sect of the Nazarenes.

Wrong. There still is a very alive and functioning people of Israel. And they are NOT the church. In many cases they are still as Paul wrote in Rom 11: "enemies of the gospel."

 

[Vicky gould]

The groom doesn't kidnap his bride secretly to elope. Actually, he goes with his family and friends to the bride's house and have a huge party before he takes her home in a big celebration.

All Dispensational belief systems break down at this point.

sorry if I gave the impression that he kidnaps the Bride he does indeed come with his wedding party and he removes her from her father's house to His Father's house. It is impossible to portray the Lord's coming for and removal of His Bride as no one can duplicate the Rapture. Anyone who does not believe in the Rapture must explain how the Bride spends 7 years getting prepared as a Bride for. her Husband on earth

 

[Andrewn]

Anyone who does not believe in the Rapture must explain how the Bride spends 7 years getting prepared as a Bride for. her Husband on earth

I'm not sure where the 7-year preparation is in the Bible. The Bride has been preparing herself for almost 2000 years.