Neanderthals, Dinosaurs?

[The Barbarian]

Dinosaurs were created 6000 years ago, and there were no such thing as Neanderthals.

We've been able to get enough DNA to look at their genome. They are markedly different than we are. At least a separate subspecies, just possibly a different species. But still able to reproduce with us. Most non-African people carry some Neandertal genes.

 

[The Barbarian]

Hey, just like any of the rest of this - you're entitled to your conjecture.

Inferences. From evidence. "Conjecture" is something in math, not science. Learn about it here:
Conjectures | Brilliant Math & Science Wiki

You see, science isn't about "proof." Proof is only possible when we know all the rules and can deduce the particulars from those. Science is inductive. That is, we observe the particulars and from them, infer the rules.

P.S. the only unpardonable sin is blaspheming the Holy Ghost; not unbelief. So if you don't believe - you still get a pass under Arminian universal atonement.

I don't think you'd be wise to count on that one.

 

[The Righterzpen]

Inferences. From evidence. "Conjecture" is something in math, not science. Learn about it here:
Conjectures | Brilliant Math & Science Wiki

You see, science isn't about "proof." Proof is only possible when we know all the rules and can deduce the particulars from those. Science is inductive. That is, we observe the particulars and from them, infer the rules.

I don't think you'd be wise to count on that one.

And since you don't know all the rules / have all the information, that's why it's conjecture.

I don't count on universal atonement. Because we all at some point are in a state of unbelief. So if you're unbelief is the only thing that separates you from God; than you either make it the unpardonable sin; or you make all redeemed no matter if they repent and believe or not.

 

[The Barbarian]

And since you don't know all the rules / have all the information, that's why it's conjecture.

No. Inductive reasoning is based on inferences from evidence. "Conjecture" is part of deductive reasoning, which allows proof. Proof, as you just learned, is not part of science.

 

[The Barbarian]

I don't count on universal atonement. Because we all at some point are in a state of unbelief. So if you're unbelief is the only thing that separates you from God; than you either make it the unpardonable sin; or you make all redeemed no matter if they repent and believe or not.

Sounds more like a lawyer's opinion than God's will.

 

[The Righterzpen]

No. Inductive reasoning is based on inferences from evidence. "Conjecture" is part of deductive reasoning, which allows proof. Proof, as you just learned, is not part of science.

In the end though, it's still a guess.

 

[The Righterzpen]

Sounds more like a lawyer's opinion than God's will.

You don't really understand what I said - do you?

 

[The Righterzpen]

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[The Barbarian]

You don't really understand what I said - do you?

More to the point, you apparently don't understand it.

 

[The Barbarian]

In the end though, it's still a guess.

No. That would be more like a hypothesis.

 

[The Righterzpen]

More to the point, you apparently don't understand it.

Well than explain to me what I said! LOL

And I can tell you whether or not you actually understand it. But by the fact that you dodge the question; tells me that you don't.

 

[The Righterzpen]

No. That would be more like a hypothesis.

And a hypothesis is what - (basically a guess) It might be a good guess and may be an accurate guess; but until it's proven by irrefutable evidence to be fact - it's still a guess.

 

[CharismaticLady]

The evidence strongly suggests otherwise.

There is no evidence, and the Word of God says otherwise.

 

[CharismaticLady]

. Most Dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago . Neanderthals weren’t us . View attachment 261503
The shape of the pelvis is different and Neanderthal rib cages flare out like a Xmas tree . Neanderthal skulls and brains were a different shape . I only pointed out stuff that a layman could see. Their growth patterns were different they became fully adult at around 15 as opposed to around 21 for us. We know this because we have a lot of fossil skeletons from Neanderthals

Up until the flood people were much larger and lived hundreds of years. There are dinosaurs in Job.

 

[JackRT]

Someone with an open mind sees something happening in the natural world and thinks deeply about it. After long thought she comes up with a "I think it might have happened like this." This is what is called an hypothesis --- it might also be called an "educated guess". This forms the basis for further observation and experiment. After time the hypothesis looks better and better and begins to be regarded as a theory but not quite. A good theory must be falsifiable. So after some further thought about her theory she uses it to make a prediction about something that has never been observed before. This will be the basis of a brand new experiment. If the prediction is falsified, the theory will either have to be modified or rejected outright. This has happened many times in science. If the prediction is confirmed by the experiment then we now have a solid theory. This does not mean that it is set in stone because this process of prediction, experiment and confirmation will continue. A theory can never be proven beyond the shadow of a doubt because in science it is impossible to know absolutely everything about anything. However a theory can be disproven because there always remains the possibility that at some point in time something will be observed that will negate the theory. So, in short, in science theory is as good as it gets. I should add a caveat concerning the term “experiment”. An experiment can be a carefully controlled test in a laboratory or in the field but some tests can only be done by direct observation in nature.

 

[Brightmoon]

Up until the flood people were much larger and lived hundreds of years. There are dinosaurs in Job.

the Flood never happened. Neanderthals tended to be shorter than Homo sapiens. You can determine how old someone was at death . Hundreds of years is just ridiculous. Birds are dinosaurs .

 

[The Barbarian]

There are dinosaurs in Job.

No. Like birds and other archosaurs, dinosaurs don't have external genitalia.

 

[JackRT]

No. Like birds and other archosaurs, dinosaurs don't have external genitalia.

Now THAT is a point that never crossed my mind.