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Yep.Which proves there was a time before the law existed.
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Yep.Which proves there was a time before the law existed.
That contradicts the scripture in Romans 5.All men at creation to the image resent day are under the ten commandments .
All will be responsible for keeping them perfectly.
There were early Sumerian, Mesopotamian and ancient Egyptian moral and legal writings. The Code of Hammurabi c. 2500 BC contained the law about an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth also found in Exodus 21:24. Scholars indicated the Egyptian Book of the Dead contains seven of the Ten Commandments. It was written before Exodus was written.Lets try to have a respectable discussion.
So we know that God gave the 10 commandments to Moses on Mt. Sinai. My question is, did the 10 commandments exist before then. Like when did taking God's name in vain start being a sin, or when did lying and stealing start being a sin?
I don't think anyone said this...Well the problem is that you cannot say that the ten commandments were not included in the commandments that God told Abraham and why won't they be included? Why would God not want Abraham to keep the 10 commandments?
True; nevertheless, (not that you don't know this, but I think this is what he was asking) right has always been right, and wrong wrong. God put conscience in us before the commandments were given. It was sin to kill Abel.No Ten Commandments before Sinai
““The LORD our God made a covenant with us at Mount Sinai. The LORD did not make this covenant with our ancestors, but with all of us who are alive today.” (Deuteronomy 5:2–3)
Lets try to have a respectable discussion.
So we know that God gave the 10 commandments to Moses on Mt. Sinai. My question is, did the 10 commandments exist before then. Like when did taking God's name in vain start being a sin, or when did lying and stealing start being a sin?
Sin is not imputed where there is no law...and yet the whole world was judged for sin before we have virtually any mention of law. How does that work? Perhaps there was a more direct knowledge at work or accessible before the Flood? Though even by Lamech's time morals were already getting all twisted up. Is there a difference in how God deals with us corporately vs individually?
I think 'the law' in some form was written on Cain's heart (example of his time), and God's words to him about sin crouching at his door in his anger that was to lead to sin could be said to underscore this point.
Lets try to have a respectable discussion.
So we know that God gave the 10 commandments to Moses on Mt. Sinai. My question is, did the 10 commandments exist before then. Like when did taking God's name in vain start being a sin, or when did lying and stealing start being a sin?
Right and Wrong were well known from the time of the fall. These "commandments" were written in stone by God's own finger to make it clear and give solid standards for which the priests would give sacrifices.Ok so lets break it down. When did lying or stealing or coveting first became sinful? Was it as the moment God gave the commandments to Moses?
Ok so lets break it down. When did lying or stealing or coveting first became sinful? Was it as the moment God gave the commandments to Moses?
Romans 5:12-19 explains it well. Lying and stealing was always wrong. But until the law was given, those deeds were not imputed to one as sin.
If you drive too fast, you might get into an accident but in a country with no speed limit, they cannot punish you for speeding.
So, because these things are not conducive to the healthy and full life the Creator designed for us...they are inherently sin.
everything that is against God is a sin. there are no timestamps. So although Adam did not receive a commandment to not kill or curse God these are still implicit.Lets try to have a respectable discussion.
So we know that God gave the 10 commandments to Moses on Mt. Sinai. My question is, did the 10 commandments exist before then. Like when did taking God's name in vain start being a sin, or when did lying and stealing start being a sin?
A different law. Faith. Abraham had no Mosaic Law, he had faith. God said go and he went without looking back. God told Lot to go and he went, without looking back on what he was called out of. His wife looked back and turned in too salt. The Hebrew were called out of Egypt but looked back and could not enter God's rest.So, before the law...was the law?