My information is that Adventists are Binitarian. That is they do not consider the Holy Spirit a person. Is this still true?
It is written that Yahuweh is not a person, so why would the Holy Spirit, the Ruach HaKodesh, be a person ?My information is that Adventists are Binitarian. That is they do not consider the Holy Spirit a person. Is this still true?
There are three "persons" in the Trinity - God the Father, Jesus the son, and the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is a person, but does not have a body of course.It is written that Yahuweh is not a person, so why would the Holy Spirit, the Ruach HaKodesh, be a person ?
Interesting. I knew that the Jehovah Witness believed Jesus was Michael, but did not know that some 7th Day Adventists believed that, too.Many do hold that Jesus and Michael (archangel) are the same person, but I don't think that is a dogmatic belief.
Also interesting. Are you saying 7thDA believe that the Father and Son have bodies?There are three "persons" in the Trinity - God the Father, Jesus the son, and the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is a person, but does not have a body of course.
I am honestly not sure exactly how prevalent it is among SDA, but I know Doug Batchelor (a very popular and influential SDA minister) has a book on it and I have heard him preach on that topic.Interesting. I knew that the Jehovah Witness believed Jesus was Michael, but did not know that some 7th Day Adventists believed that, too.
No, I do not think so. That would be LDS beliefs. All I meant was to counter the statement that "why would the Holy Spirit, the Ruach HaKodesh, be a person ?" to say that the holy spirit is a person but does not have a body, I did not mean to imply that the Father also has a body - he does not. I was just pointing out that a "person" does not necessarily have a body. I think I am explaining it ok.....Also interesting. Are you saying 7thDA believe that the Father and Son have bodies?
Perhaps it is similar to the LDS. There are still Mormons who believe in polygamy, even tho it has been banned by the LDS. Perhaps these are 7thDA "purists" who believe the doctrine needs to remain.I am honestly not sure exactly how prevalent it is among SDA, but I know Doug Batchelor (a very popular and influential SDA minister) has a book on it and I have heard him preach on that topic.
Sounds like a good argument for person-hood of fetus. It is not the body that makes a person but the life of the person.No, I do not think so. That would be LDS beliefs. All I meant was to counter the statement that "why would the Holy Spirit, the Ruach HaKodesh, be a person ?" to say that the holy spirit is a person but does not have a body, I did not mean to imply that the Father also has a body - he does not. I was just pointing out that a "person" does not necessarily have a body. I think I am explaining it ok.....
Interesting. I knew that the Jehovah Witness believed Jesus was Michael, but did not know that some 7th Day Adventists believed that, too.
Also interesting. Are you saying 7thDA believe that the Father and Son have bodies?
There is a difference between divine person and human person.Sounds like a good argument for person-hood of fetus. It is not the body that makes a person but the life of the person.
I have SDA friends and have been to church services and bible studies with them. It was part of their teaching that Michael was Jesus' name before he was born as a human being and named "Jesus".
"Person" in the sense of the Trinity does not mean "has a physical body" but is similar to an individual part of a whole. If you look at that hymn, "Holy, Holy, Holy" it goes like this (first verse):
Holy, Holy, Holy Lord God, Almighty
Early in the morning, our song shall rise to Thee
Holy, Holy, Holy, merciful and mighty
God in three persons, blessed Trinity
It's not an SDA thing. It's just traditional teaching concerning the Trinity. Person does not mean that God is divided up into three different gods, but just three different aspects of ONE God, each one fully and completely God and fully equal to one another.
Most certainly. His thoughts are not our thoughts and his ways are not our ways. He is infinite and we are finite. He is eternal with no beginning nor end, whereas we have a beginning and an end.There is a difference between divine person and human person.
Abortion was not my point. My point is that our person-hood is in our spirits, not our bodies. So even a zygote is still a person because the spirit of that person is in the zygote directing the cell division. At least, that is my opinion.Can we please not make this thread into another abortion argument? Thank you.
Abortion was not my point. My point is that our person-hood is in our spirits, not our bodies. So even a zygote is still a person because the spirit of that person is in the zygote directing the cell division. At least, that is my opinion.
My information is that Adventists are Binitarian. That is they do not consider the Holy Spirit a person. Is this still true?