Praying the gay away, I am realizing, is not the answer at all. I have to renew my mind by reading his word. But the thing about the Bible is that it doesn't tell us why some sin is sin. It doesn't tell me why two men can't love each other romantically. They can certainly have brotherly love, but romantically they can't because God hates it.
I have had some Christians try to tell why some sin is sin. But I don't care why it is sin. All I know that sin is sin. And if we continue to sin, God throws us into hell. I don't need to understand at all. And I have also have people talk to me about why I have my struggles and they have tried to get to the root my sin struggles. My attitude is now who cares. I don't need to know the root of my same-sex attraction.
Am I wrong for not caring why I choose to not care why God said some sin is sin? Am I wrong for not wanting to know what the root of my sin is?
The Bible, God's Word, indeed tells us and shows us why it is sin to have same-sex attraction. If you read Genesis, right in the beginning of the world He created is by His will - His design. If you keep reading you'll run into the story of Lot, why God brought him and his family out and Judged Sodom and Gomorrah. Throughout the Bible you will run into this orientation again, even in Amos.
If you don't care why it's a sin, why are you posting this? I'm asking genuinely, so please forgive my bluntness. If you don't care about God's way and His values of what He has created and established, why call yourself a Christian? Again, I am being sincere, not accusatory.
I'm not going to tell you what your sin is or where it is rooted, but I can tell you where all sin is rooted from: Pride. I kid you not, I know the saying about "Pride" in today's age and it's quite a mockery of God's creation and what He has done for His remnant.
If I may, I wish to ask you this and you don't have to answer: Do you love God? Do you care about God? Do you care to have a personal relationship with Him?
Otherwise... why are you trying to follow Him without caring about Who He is?
Some experts on the subject claim that there may well be a genetic component to same sex attraction, at least in some cases, but I do not believe this has been proven as of yet.
God knows your heart. He knows you are struggling and he knows you love Him. So leave it at that, "He Knows" your burden. Little by little, if you do not reject Him, He will lessen your burden and easy your conscience. For now, stay the narrow course.I am a man that has lust and same-sex attractions. I am starting to realize that I can't pray the gay away, like some people call it. I have to fill my mind with the truth of God's word. Not just the Bible, although that is the most important, but also with other sermons concerning my sin. I realize that I have to memorize scripture and live it out.
I do not understand why homosexuality is sin. But all I know is that if I do it, I will be thrown into hell. And yes, I recognize that lusting is adultery as well. I understand why it is sin to lust after people. It is disrespectful to the people you are lusting after. Think about it. If you had two teenage daughters, and you were given the ability to read people's mind, and you passed a man who had all kinds of dirty thoughts toward your daughters, anybody is going to want to hurt him, even though he may not ever touch your daughters. So, I understand why lust is wrong. It is just disrespectful. And if I am embarrassed to share my thoughts with somebody else, then I probably shouldn't be thinking about what I am thinking. God is always reading my thoughts, and that should be enough to trouble and fear.
Praying the gay away, I am realizing, is not the answer at all. I have to renew my mind by reading his word. But the thing about the Bible is that it doesn't tell us why some sin is sin. It doesn't tell me why two men can't love each other romantically. They can certainly have brotherly love, but romantically they can't because God hates it.
I have had some Christians try to tell why some sin is sin. But I don't care why it is sin. All I know that sin is sin. And if we continue to sin, God throws us into hell. I don't need to understand at all. And I have also have people talk to me about why I have my struggles and they have tried to get to the root my sin struggles. My attitude is now who cares. I don't need to know the root of my same-sex attraction.
Am I wrong for not caring why I choose to not care why God said some sin is sin? Am I wrong for not wanting to know what the root of my sin is?
God knows your heart. He knows you are struggling and he knows you love Him. So leave it at that, "He Knows" your burden. Little by little, if you do not reject Him, He will lessen your burden and lift your countenance. For now, stay the narrow course.
Blessings
I just started trusting him really yesterday. But I have always believed. I just did not put my faith in him.
I know that you are being very blunt. But I do care that it is sin. But I am not following him very well because I am a weak Christian but I am turning away from sin because of my fear of hell. I just started trusting him yesterday.
I just started crying out to God for his grace and mercy. And yes, I also got rid of my inappropriate content as I am turning away from sin. Why would I do that if I didn't care who God was? God is righteous and holy, and who he is could destroy me if I do not turn away from sin. So of course I care who he is.
What I meant was that I did not understand and that doesn't matter if I understand why certain things are sin. It would be like not understanding why some people go to jail if they sell weed, but you don't do it because you don't want to go to jail, even though you didn't understand. That was my point. But I did not say that I do not care who he is. Of course I care. I just did not understand why some things were sinful, and I did not care why I didn't understand. Of course, I care if it is sinful or not because if I could continue in a lifestyle that is sinful it will destroy me, like send me to hell.
So please, give me some grace before accusing me of not being a true Christian.
I was not being accusatory, as I said, I am sorry you took it that way. Nonetheless, welcome to the family of God!
I totally understand what you mean because I went through the same thing in giving my full life to Jesus Christ, Saviour and King, as we all must be born again to walk in His ways and understand them.
I think it does matter if you understand why certain things are sin because that is a way of knowing what is right and wrong. Just like how a child learns from their parents, so do we as born again Christians learn as babes and mature in relationship with God our Father in Heaven.
If you care Who He is then you would also care to understand Him. That's all I was getting at. It's about a relationship with God, not religion. I made many mistakes as a new born Christian - and I still make them today, though not intentionally. God has brought to surface sin in my life I needed to let go of so I could follow Him freely. This is why Jesus Christ says in the Gospel: Matthew 11:28-30. It is sin that keeps us heavy and oppressed.
I've also been afraid of Hell, but the more I learned about God, the more I feared Him with His power and authority. Over time that turned into love. If you put your full faith and trust in Him, you cannot go wrong.
Of course, I care if it is sinful or not because if I could continue in a lifestyle that is sinful it will destroy me, like send me to hell.
You have shown to side with wisdom sir.I'm totally sorry that I took it the wrong way. I am a little sensitive. But I will learn to answer the hard questions. Your questions were not unreasonable, but my attitude was. So please accept my apology for taking your questions the wrong way. And yes you did say that you weren't trying to become accusatory towards me. I do have a little more to say, but I am preoccupied right now. But thank you very much.
And you did answer the question, which was the point of this thread. I asked that if it was wrong that I did not understand why some things were wrong. And you answer the question.
I am sorry. It is a sin. You are fooling yourself and others. Fornication is a sin and that is what you/they are doing. I am a heterosexual and I comply with Gods will that we marry before engaging in a sexual relationship. God does not recognize marriage between the same sex. I hardly think that a homosexual gets a free pass because I do not. Explain please. If you are speaking of celibate homosexuals then I fully agree.Homosexuality is not a sin, since it is not freely chosen. God's Church has many homosexual members in good standing, who do their best to live their lives according to God's holy will, just like the heterosexual members. Of course, homosexuality does include an attraction towards certain behaviors that do violate the will of God, just like heterosexuality. But simply having the condition is not a violation of God's will, and does not necessitate behaviors that are violations of God's will.
I'm totally sorry that I took it the wrong way. I am a little sensitive. But I will learn to answer the hard questions. Your questions were not unreasonable, but my attitude was. So please accept my apology for taking your questions the wrong way. And yes you did say that you weren't trying to become accusatory towards me. I do have a little more to say, but I am preoccupied right now. But thank you very much.
And you did answer the question, which was the point of this thread. I asked that if it was wrong that I did not understand why some things were wrong. And you answer the question.
I am a man that has lust and same-sex attractions. I am starting to realize that I can't pray the gay away, like some people call it. I have to fill my mind with the truth of God's word. Not just the Bible, although that is the most important, but also with other sermons concerning my sin. I realize that I have to memorize scripture and live it out.
I do not understand why homosexuality is sin. But all I know is that if I do it, I will be thrown into hell. And yes, I recognize that lusting is adultery as well. I understand why it is sin to lust after people. It is disrespectful to the people you are lusting after. Think about it. If you had two teenage daughters, and you were given the ability to read people's mind, and you passed a man who had all kinds of dirty thoughts toward your daughters, anybody is going to want to hurt him, even though he may not ever touch your daughters. So, I understand why lust is wrong. It is just disrespectful. And if I am embarrassed to share my thoughts with somebody else, then I probably shouldn't be thinking about what I am thinking. God is always reading my thoughts, and that should be enough to trouble and fear.
Praying the gay away, I am realizing, is not the answer at all. I have to renew my mind by reading his word. But the thing about the Bible is that it doesn't tell us why some sin is sin. It doesn't tell me why two men can't love each other romantically. They can certainly have brotherly love, but romantically they can't because God hates it.
I have had some Christians try to tell why some sin is sin. But I don't care why it is sin. All I know that sin is sin. And if we continue to sin, God throws us into hell. I don't need to understand at all. And I have also have people talk to me about why I have my struggles and they have tried to get to the root my sin struggles. My attitude is now who cares. I don't need to know the root of my same-sex attraction.
Am I wrong for not caring why I choose to not care why God said some sin is sin? Am I wrong for not wanting to know what the root of my sin is?
""But from the beginning of creation, God MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE." (Mark10:6) "7‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife," Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them."I do not understand why
""But from the beginning of creation, God MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE." (Mark10:6) "7‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife," Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them."
Why is Ellen the husband & why is Elton John the wife? Because God made them male and female. The "Jewish" people say he made them two so they can be united together and become one. This is also refereed to as to "run and return".
God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. When people have gender confusion they can not decide if they want to be a male or a female. What they need to do is unite the male and female in them. If we are male and male or female and female then we have defeated God's purpose for the two to become one. This explains why there is an issue with feminism and chauvinism. This creates division and not the unity that God wants and desires. According to His plan and purpose.
Some how this is suppose to explain how in a spiritual sense Jesus is the Groom and we are the Bride. If we cleanse our flesh so that we are without spot, blemish or wrinkle.
I am a man that has lust and same-sex attractions. I am starting to realize that I can't pray the gay away, like some people call it. I have to fill my mind with the truth of God's word.
Not just the Bible, although that is the most important, but also with other sermons concerning my sin. I realize that I have to memorize scripture and live it out.
I do not understand why homosexuality is sin.
It is disrespectful to the people you are lusting after.
So, I understand why lust is wrong. It is just disrespectful.
Praying the gay away, I am realizing, is not the answer at all.
It doesn't tell me why two men can't love each other romantically.
And I have also have people talk to me about why I have my struggles and they have tried to get to the root my sin struggles. My attitude is now who cares. I don't need to know the root of my same-sex attraction.
I am a man that has lust and same-sex attractions. I am starting to realize that I can't pray the gay away, like some people call it. I have to fill my mind with the truth of God's word. Not just the Bible, although that is the most important, but also with other sermons concerning my sin. I realize that I have to memorize scripture and live it out.
I do not understand why homosexuality is sin. But all I know is that if I do it, I will be thrown into hell. And yes, I recognize that lusting is adultery as well. I understand why it is sin to lust after people. It is disrespectful to the people you are lusting after. Think about it. If you had two teenage daughters, and you were given the ability to read people's mind, and you passed a man who had all kinds of dirty thoughts toward your daughters, anybody is going to want to hurt him, even though he may not ever touch your daughters. So, I understand why lust is wrong. It is just disrespectful. And if I am embarrassed to share my thoughts with somebody else, then I probably shouldn't be thinking about what I am thinking. God is always reading my thoughts, and that should be enough to trouble and fear.
Praying the gay away, I am realizing, is not the answer at all. I have to renew my mind by reading his word. But the thing about the Bible is that it doesn't tell us why some sin is sin. It doesn't tell me why two men can't love each other romantically. They can certainly have brotherly love, but romantically they can't because God hates it.
I have had some Christians try to tell why some sin is sin. But I don't care why it is sin. All I know that sin is sin. And if we continue to sin, God throws us into hell. I don't need to understand at all. And I have also have people talk to me about why I have my struggles and they have tried to get to the root my sin struggles. My attitude is now who cares. I don't need to know the root of my same-sex attraction.
Am I wrong for not caring why I choose to not care why God said some sin is sin? Am I wrong for not wanting to know what the root of my sin is?