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Reopened Legal Challenge to Census Citizenship Question Throws Case Into Chaos
The battle over whether to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census was thrown into turmoil on Tuesday, just as the Supreme Court was expected to issue a ruling on the dispute this week.

By allowing a district judge to reopen a case related to the origin of the citizenship question, a federal appeals court raised the prospect that the federal government might be unable to meet a deadline for completing census questionnaires that include it, regardless of the Supreme Court's ruling.
 

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Asking if one is a citizen sound like a reasonable question for a decennial census.

OTOH, it's not been asked since 1950 (meaning it wasn't asked since 1940), so why make an issue of it now?
The reason they want to ask the question is to cause undercounts of Hispanics and increase the representation of white people. This is the reason given in writing.
 
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There's another issue as well: The government presentation to the Supreme Court gave a reason for the change. It's becoming increasingly likely that this was a lie. Judges normally react badly to being lied to. However I don't think the current Republican majority of the Supreme Court cares.
 
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There's another issue as well: The government presentation to the Supreme Court gave a reason for the change. It's becoming increasingly likely that this was a lie. Judges normally react badly to being lied to. However I don't think the current Republican majority of the Supreme Court cares.
That's the real rub, they'll be using all sorts of mental gymnastics to ignore that the reasoning and intent given was a lie. Ignoring that suggests they never cared about the actual details of the case.
 
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The reason they want to ask the question is to cause undercounts of Hispanics and increase the representation of white people. This is the reason given in writing.
Somehow, I always think that Hispanophones WERE white people, especially when growing up.

Also, when I was in elementary school, people from "south of the border" did not want to be lumped together as "Latin-Americans," but called Mexicans, Ecuadorians, or other name of their country of origin.
 
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There's another issue as well: The government presentation to the Supreme Court gave a reason for the change. It's becoming increasingly likely that this was a lie. Judges normally react badly to being lied to. However I don't think the current Republican majority of the Supreme Court cares.

We'll see on the supreme court I guess. They may in fact really dislike being lied to.
 
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Supreme Court divided on citizenship question for census

Odd to see the left, who so frequently cites international law regarding asylum, disagree with the UN on this.

"Gorsuch and Kavanaugh both noted that the United Nations has recommended that countries ask a citizenship question on national censuses."
 
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Supreme Court divided on citizenship question for census

Odd to see the left, who so frequently cites international law regarding asylum, disagree with the UN on this.

"Gorsuch and Kavanaugh both noted that the United Nations has recommended that countries ask a citizenship question on national censuses."

While this may be true, does the census in other countries have as significant of importance? Mucking up the numbers in any way can change the entire political landscape and future of the US.
 
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The right is attempting to ignore the reason for the citizenship question and pretend that it's not about depressing the count in Hispanic areas so as to increase the voting power of white people. The goal has always been about increasing white supremacy because there is fear of change to the status quo; they can't picture a world that without a racial hierarchy, so they attempt to maintain that power at all costs, especially knowing the demographics do not favor them in the future.
 
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