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Can anyone tell me what are the 2 significance of God’s Holy Feasts between the OT and the NT?

Because Christ died and rose again, fulfilling the sacrifices as He is sufficient for all time, what do the Lord’s Feasts look like today? I’m having a hard time visualizing this between the 2 Covenants. Please and thanks!

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In Colossians 2:16-17, Paul gives the festivals, new moons and Sabbaths prophetic value by saying they were shadows of things to come. The appointed times in the ceremonial feasts are shadows of things to come. This particular verse in Col 2:16-17 has not been clearly studied and understood today as it must have been commonly understood in Paul‘s day. Paul saw no need to explain the messianic and prophetic interpretations to be found in the festivals. He was raised on these festivals and probably thought they were commonly understood and they probably were for their point and time.

Jewish traditions have always taught that redemption from Egypt foreshadowed the great and final redemption brought about through the Messiah. Jewish commentators regarded Moses as a type of the Messiah coming. The Passover meal is full of Messianic allusions and prophetic expectations. There is even a Jewish tradition of setting a chair at the table for Elijah, the heralder of the Christ. Paul never explained and probably never felt the need to explain or defend his words, because his interpretation of Christ as Passover Lamb was from years of keeping the feasts. In the first century, believers regarded the Passover sacrifice of a lamb as finding a type of Messianic satisfaction in the death of Yeshua. We today have no problem with Yeshua as the Passover lamb but we have lost the prophetic value of what it truly means in the light of prophetic fulfillment.
 
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There is an appointed place for all this to occur. Yeshua knew this particular Feast of Unleaven Bread was his appointed time. Yeshua had been keeping all the feasts throughout His entire life, studying it since He was old enough to understand and yet this particular year, this particular Passover, Feast of Unleaven Bread, First Fruit or Feast of Weeks and Penecost were in His mind as the appointed time. What was it about this particular spring time feasts that Yeshua knew were going to be prophetic reality? What did Yeshua know about these feasts and their timing, that He knew it was His appointed time? What did Yeshua see in the Spring Feasts that lead Him to fulfill them the way that He did and not the way that the people of that time had hoped?

It was necessary, if he was to meet this particular appointment, that he go up to the appointed place, Jerusalem, the city of God's Temple. Preparations for the appointed time of Passover and Unleavened Bread began well in advance of the actual festival. This was especially so in Jerusalem. The city of Jerusalem needed to prepare for a massive influx of pilgrims.

Back in those days, there were probably a lot of behind the scenes work that needed to be done, just like it is done today when everyone at home and on the main streets of town dresses up for the coming Christmas season. Prior to the festivals the different types of things that needed to be made ready from the individuals homes, to the church activities in preparations, to the city itself from the market place to the chambers of the rulers, major increase in activities were all for the coming event. Special ovens were probably built for roasting of the thousands and thousands of Passover lambs. Arrangements would have to be made for the accommodations and lodgings of all pilgrims arriving for this event. The Passover was one of three festivals that God commanded everyone was to attend, so this cause even great gatherings that at other festivals held throughout the year.
 
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As the pilgrims approached the city from all over the world to keep the feasts, their multitudes would end up converging until their throngs filled the roads into Jerusalem. Amid the multitude of conversations, there were probably voices singing psalms by those that were caught up in the moment and spirit of this festival. It brought joy to their hearts as they went up to Jerusalem to keep the appointed time in the appointed place. You can almost picture Yeshua and his disciples approaching Jerusalem, just as one group among a multitude of many groups. Yeshua knew that He was Appointed Sacrifice, the Lamb of God, this year.

During the first century, Judaism with all its various off shoots were expecting the Redeemer, tired of the Roman yoke, studying the scriptures and coming to the conclusion that prophetic fulfillment was close at hand, this festival was of more interest than in other years. The Messianic expectations were probably running at an all time high. In the celebration of Passover, also known as the Festival of Redemption, the people had hope in it‘s soon fulfillment. It was probably a common belief at that time that redemption brought about by the Messiah, would take place at Passover. This Messiah, they believed would be like another Moses who would lead them out from under the bondage of the Rome. Word about Yeshua had spread throughout the land. The people were wondering if he might not be The One after all. So they were seeking for Yeshua, and were saying to one another as they stood in the temple, "What do you think; that He will not come to the feast at all?
 
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As Yeshua and his disciples came down the Mount of Olives in their approach to Jerusalem, the crowd of pilgrims realized who it was traveling in their midst. The throngs of pilgrims streaming into Jerusalem became a multitude throwing down their coats and branches to spread a path for Yeshua as he entered the city.

In Exodus chapter 12, are the instructions for the celebration of Passover. The children of Israel were to choose a lamb for the Passover sacrifice on the 10th day of the 1st month, 4 days before the actual slaughtering was to be done.

In the chronology of the time calculations that Yeshua made His made His famous entry back into Jerusalem on the donkey, it was the time for Israel to choose their Lamb of God. Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, your King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

They were claiming him to be the long awaited Christ with their shouting. God instructed the people to purchase an unblemished lamb. The people chose Yeshua as their Messiah. Unwittingly, they chose Yeshua as their Passover lamb on the day the lambs were to be chosen.
 
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Blemish check was an important aspect in the Passover lamb choosing. Levitical instructions are that the lamb must be checked for blemishes as only a perfect, spotless and unblemished lamb would suffice for the Passover Lamb. At this time, Yeshua goes to the Temple to teach. While there, he is approached by the Pharisees, the Saducees, and various other groups, each with different and difficult questions, all were trying to trap him in his words. When they found no fault with this ―Lamb of God‖ they didn‘t even realize they had ―chosen‖ Him because he was without blemish.

Then went the Phrisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk. And they sent out unto him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, Master, we know that you art true, and teachest the way of God in truth, neither carest you for any man: for you regardest not the person of men. Tell us therefore, What thinkest you? Is it lawful to give tribute unto Caesar, or not? But Yeshua perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt you me, you hypocrites? Show me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny. And he said unto them, Whose is this image and eaterscription? They say unto him, Caesar's. Then said he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. When they had heard these words, they marvelled, and left him, and went their way.

The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him, Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother. Now there were with us seven brethren: and the first, when he had married a wife, deceased, and, having no issue, left his wife unto his brother: Likewise the second also, and the third, unto the seventh. And last of all the woman died also. Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her. Yeshua answered and said unto them, You do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have you not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living. And when the multitude heard this, they were astonished at his doctrine.

Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying, Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Yeshua said unto him, You shalt love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, You shalt love your neighbour as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. While the Pharisees were gathered together, Yeshua asked them, saying, What think you of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David. He said unto them, How then does David in spirit call him Lord, saying, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit you on my right hand, till I make yours enemies your footstool? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? And no man was able to answer him a word; neither did any man from that day forth ask him any more questions.

They were looking for any blemish, theological, or otherwise, which might disqualify him as the Christ. They could not find fault. He meets each question soundly, and no one can find fault with him. He is without blemish. Since He was perfect they decided He should be killed or as the High Priest that year said, ―Die for the nation.
 
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Did you notice the detail that all the spring type feasts were fulfilled by the first coming of Yeshua? These feasts that had significant fulfillment with the first coming of Yeshua also point to the future fulfillment of the fall feasts for His Second Coming.
 
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Lev. 23:1-4 And the LORD spoke unto Moses, saying, 2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the Feasts of the LORD, which you shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my Feasts. 3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the Sabbath of rest, a holy convocation; you shall do no work therein: it is the Sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings. 4 These are the Feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which you shall proclaim in their seasons.

The ceremonial feasts are there for a reason; this is more than just an old testament and an old covenant. God always has deeper meaning to everything He does. The new covenant of Yeshua was a fulfillment of the spring time feasts. Since it was fulfilled in a reality in the life of Christ, let us take a closer look at the fall feasts that God has given us.
 
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This is where the daily sacrifices are made, by the blood of the lamb, in the outer court of the temple grounds, for your sins when you confess them with a humble and repentant heart. These daily ministrations and offering while the earthly temple was in service never took away sins since it was only symbolic of what was really going to take place.

Now notice the difference between the daily priests work and that of our High Priest, our Lord Yeshua. It is important for you to see this as it will become clearer later why it is so important to follow Yeshua in His Heavenly ministry. We are only at the first step in Temple services. We have only come to Yeshua at the altar of sacrifice, and where with repentant hearts we are seeing our need to forsake sins and sinful ways, that we may have a closer walk with God. For every High Priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins. These earthly high priests had to sacrifice for their own sins before they could sacrifice for the sins of the people.

It has to be understood that what Yeshua did was planned since before the foundation of the world to sacrifice Himself to meet the requirements of the transgression of the Law of God, not to do away with His Law but to remove the sins from off the book of Life, by blotting them out. Yeshua only had to do with once and be offered to us all when we repent.
 
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Can anyone tell me what are the 2 significance of God’s Holy Feasts between the OT and the NT?

Because Christ died and rose again, fulfilling the sacrifices as He is sufficient for all time, what do the Lord’s Feasts look like today? I’m having a hard time visualizing this between the 2 Covenants. Please and thanks!

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I was fairly certain there is only one covenant
 
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Similar to how there are 3 full moons. Ignore the moon and consider its wholeness throughout the yr is what I heard tell.

As for feast;
That subject should be discussed between the sons and daughters whose hearts carry Water and Fire.

20 days numbered in a single yr is like pesach and sukkot mirrored in the souls who freely offer Truth.
 
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Thank you very much for your input in helping me better understand what I have been reading/studying! :star:

What is in store for us when He meets with us in the next time during the Fall Feasts?
When He takes us up with Him in the clouds! :love2: I was taught I could never know this! Now I understand why Jesus told us to watch! I'm ever MORE eager now to do as He says and do the wedding rehearsals and be ready for when He comes! Isn't this also what was depicted in the parable of the 10 Virgins?
It's as if God just gave me a bigger mirror than I had before... I'm seeing much more now than I thought before, and I'm understanding more. Studying these Feasts was a key to understanding more of what Jesus said and did, at least for me it has been, and that key came from God!
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Thank you very much for your input in helping me better understand what I have been reading/studying! :star:


When He takes us up with Him in the clouds! :love2: I was taught I could never know this! Now I understand why Jesus told us to watch! I'm ever MORE eager now to do as He says and do the wedding rehearsals and be ready for when He comes! Isn't this also what was depicted in the parable of the 10 Virgins?
It's as if God just gave me a bigger mirror than I had before... I'm seeing much more now than I thought before, and I'm understanding more. Studying these Feasts was a key to understanding more of what Jesus said and did, at least for me it has been, and that key came from God!
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Yeah.. I was blown away with the prophecies within the feasts. It is especially interesting to learn the fall feasts and what they could possibly portray in the end game.

There comes a time when it is necessary to leave the outer court where the spring time feasts were fulfilled. As it is prophesied in Daniel, this part of the sanctuary services will be taken away, by the overflowing abomination, when the city and the temple are destroyed. For those that are not familiar with Daniel, he was given a vision of the last days, which has puzzled many for centuries which you can read for yourself.

This has been the puzzle in prophecy that many have tried to calculate using the numbers provided as to when this occurred or is still to occur. While not get into this prophecy to any depth, keep it in mind, because this study will affect how you will re-examine the prophecy later.

The sanctuary mentioned in this prophecy is not an earthly sanctuary or temple in Jerusalem; but the Temple of God, which is the divine original Moses was shown in the mountain and of which he made an earthly copy.

According to this prophecy in Daniel the Antichrist is scheduled to desecrate the Temple of God by his very presence. He will enter in the outer court of the Temple of God where the daily sacrifices are performed and will blasphemously challenge the Prince of the heavenly host at the spot where God declared was His. Jerusalem will be the center of the Universe‘s greatest conflict.

The heavenly host cast down to the ground were once the holy angels who surround the throne of God and because they followed their commander, Lucifer aka Satan. Disobedience was through Satan, over what God told these angels, one third of all of heaven, and because of it they also fell into his deception and end up being cast of out of heaven too. It was a violent war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the Satan and his angels. And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven and so we ended up being the ―lucky‖ ones who end up with Satan and his crew. I do not believe it has happened yet because when it does it will look like the stars of heaven fell unto the earth like a fig tree tossing figs in a furious wind storm. The war in heaven affects us, for the dragon comes after us in fury for having lost the battle in heaven and he knows His time is short
 
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Thanks again! I will certainly keep Daniel in mind.

According to this prophecy in Daniel the Antichrist is scheduled to desecrate the Temple of God by his very presence.

This reminds me of a passage in scripture actually. Not sure in what context though if this happened already or not. But, I will continue to dig. :yellowheart:
 
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Thank you very much for your input in helping me better understand what I have been reading/studying! :star:


When He takes us up with Him in the clouds! :love2: I was taught I could never know this! Now I understand why Jesus told us to watch! I'm ever MORE eager now to do as He says and do the wedding rehearsals and be ready for when He comes! Isn't this also what was depicted in the parable of the 10 Virgins?
It's as if God just gave me a bigger mirror than I had before... I'm seeing much more now than I thought before, and I'm understanding more. Studying these Feasts was a key to understanding more of what Jesus said and did, at least for me it has been, and that key came from God!
:piripi::sohappy:

You are keeping the time of Yah...a watchman/woman!

*Zechariah 14
"16Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. 17And should any of the families of the earth not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts,the rain will not fall on them. 18And if the people of Egypt will not go up and enter in, then rain will not fall on them; this will be the plague the LORD inflicts on the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles."
 
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At this time, Yeshua goes to the Temple to teach. While there, he is approached by the Pharisees, the Saducees, and various other groups, each with different and difficult questions, all were trying to trap him in his words. When they found no fault with this ―Lamb of God‖ they didn‘t even realize they had ―chosen‖ Him because he was without blemish.

They were looking for any blemish, theological, or otherwise, which might disqualify him as the Christ. They could not find fault. He meets each question soundly, and no one can find fault with him. He is without blemish. Since He was perfect they decided He should be killed or as the High Priest that year said, ―Die for the nation.


Very well put, Visionary.
 
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Yeshua accepted all sins passed onto Him and bore the condemnation of these sins to the
cross, that we may be washed and be clean from all sinfulness of the flesh. By doing this
He abolished the enmity between God and man and cleared the path for us to go to the
Father through Him. Come now, and let us reason together, said the LORD: though your
sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall
be as wool. And now why do you delay? Rise, and be baptized, and wash away your sins,
calling on the name of the Lord.

To bear the condemnation of all the sins of mankind, Yeshua showed His willingness to
take the sins of the world upon Himself by being baptized by John.

Revelation 1:5
Isaiah 1:18
Acts 22:16
Matt 3:13
 
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Visionary, I'm indebted to your comment as it fleshed out a little more what I see in my heart about what God is doing. And I'm indebted to you, Swan7 for opening up this discussion. I probably could not have written it better than Visionary's response. As I usually take the sabbath to reflect and write, allow me to offer into this discussion my heart's response to reading this thread last evening.

What I see when I look at the "appointed times of JHWH," and by that I'm meaning looking at the sabbaths and the feasts along with the ritual sacrifices described in the old testament, as a person who came to Jesus Christ as a gentile, as a lost person swirling down the vortex of bad decisions with no hope of finding my way, and as an un-churched person, is that God indeed was showing us a "type" so we could realize things that are often too difficult to transfer from one heart to another through words. We have a saying that a picture is worth a thousand words. From what we see and what we hear, we develop a response in the heart which has the ability to change everything, and God was providing the scenario we could see year by year. In seeing and realizing this more and more, they could have faith stirred in our heart while anticipating it (before Jesus) and we now can have faith increasing all the more now that we do see Jesus (or can look back on history with pieces of the scenario that those long ago could only see in (excuse what may be almost a pun here) in a "visionary" kind of way), as we see more fully how intricately God detailed everything in His great love for people and His desire that they see Him for who He is and desire Him and His plan for them to live above their lousy choices. We take that in our hearts and it stirs a hope for what He is continuing to do. Return to me, He says, and I will return to you. Leave your awful way and take on my ways that lead to life. Jesus made a way for us and broke the bondage that held us to the vortex heading to the sewer. I am so thankful for God's amazing grace!
 
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