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The ToE doesnt adress god(s) at all.

I suggest biology 101.

Cool, and funny you should mention that, I have just the solution. :) Let's do as I've asked time and time again and explain it here using your knowledge of Biology, you do have that, right?.

That way we don't have to carry out the ridiculous expectation of taking a class on something that has never even been proven worthy of further study, so in reality, something that no one is going to do. Plus it gives you a chance to put it all together for us, meaning surely you know taking the course itself will not touch on the things presented here, but with all the people in the know here, we will have the guidance needed. Not to mention, you can now PYMWYMI, something that quite honestly, some of us would love to see.

It really is the perfect solution.
 
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Cool, and funny you should mention that, I have just the solution. :) Let's do as I've asked time and time again and explain it here using your knowledge of Biology, you do have that, right?.

That way we don't have to carry out the ridiculous expectation of taking a class on something that has never even been proven worthy of further study, so in reality, something that no one is going to do. Plus it gives you a chance to put it all together for us, meaning surely you know taking the course itself will not touch on the things presented here, but with all the people in the know here, we will have the guidance needed. Not to mention, you can now PYMWYMI, something that quite honestly, some of us would love to see.

It really is the perfect solution.

Nope, I’m not responsible for your education. You want to continue being ignorant, well, I couldnt care less.
 
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LOL. Look at how you took that and just by your claims, true or not attempted to turn it into something else, hence hope to discredit such a simple and absolutely true concept, all so you don't have to deal with it.
Kenny, all I did was to give you my understanding of what you had written and how I had arrived at that understanding. I refer you to the second item in my signature - communication can be fraught with difficulties and misunderstandings. The responsibility for that typically lies with the writer. If you wish to avoid misunderstandings then you need to write with greater clarity.

Kind of like I mentioned in my last post, if you can't answer, attack the question itself...the comment in this case.
I don't know why you think my post was an attack, but I refer you, again, to the second item in my signature. I accept full responsibility for the lack of clarity in my post that made you view it as an attack. I repeat my earlier explanation. In post #710 you expressed curiosity as to how Larnievc had come up with his interpretation of your remarks. I aimed to satisfy your curiosity with an explanation - it was not an attack. I regret that was not clear.

As far as actually answering your post, I think you can now see why it's tough to take the comment seriously.
Unfortunately I cannot see your difficulty. You were unable to see the basis for Larnievc's post. That's understandable. By good fortune I saw how Larnievc had likely arrived at his interpretation and offered that to you as an explanation to satisfy your expressed curiosity.
In that context I'm not clear why you wouldn't wish to take the comment seriously. You would be perfectly well entitled to think (indeed, to say) that the interpretation was silly and not at all what you meant, but I am not aware of any reason not to take it as a serious attempt to satisfy your curiosity.
 
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Nope, I’m not responsible for your education. You want to continue being ignorant, well, I couldnt care less.

Alright! One of my favorite cop outs of all time. I need to write a Top Five on those and put it on youtube. Anyone want to contribute? :)
 
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And I still don't, so maybe it's best if he answers? Fair enough?
Absolutely. Indeed, his explanation may be quite different from mine and he is in the best position to know what he meant.:) I do remain disappointed my explanation did not gel with you, but I'll put that down to my inadequate writing skills.
 
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Alright! One of my favorite cop outs of all time. I need to write a Top Five on those and put it on youtube. Anyone want to contribute? :)

Knock yourself out.

The ”debate” is long over. The ToE is established science and teached in accademia all over the world. Creationism is just a small quirk mostly in the US.
 
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Alright! One of my favorite cop outs of all time.

Do you really believe the opposite though? Do you believe that others *are* responsible for your education?

Out of curiosity, what is your educational background? Have you ever taken any higher education (e.g. post high school)?
 
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Alright! One of my favorite cop outs of all time. I need to write a Top Five on those and put it on youtube. Anyone want to contribute? :)
Administration did it.

Engineers did it.

Big pharmacies did it.

It never had consensus of opinion.

We learned something from it.

It's too early to tell.

You're not what you think you are; you're what we say you are.

It's a myth.

It's a fable.

Other beliefs are just as potent.

No evidence (unless you claim there's no evidence, then there's evidence contrary to your claim that what happened never happened in the first place because no evidence was left behind).
 
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The ”debate” is long over. The ToE is established science and teached in accademia all over the world. Creationism is just a small quirk mostly in the US.

Not to mention that creationist beliefs are on the decline. I give it a couple more generations and by which point it will likely be regulated to the extreme fringe, just like flat Earthism.
 
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Perhaps today? :pray:

If you're praying for the end of the world, that's not happening for another 4 billion years or so. So get comfortable, you've got quite the wait ahead of you.
 
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If you're praying for the end of the world, that's not happening for another 4 billion years or so.
Ya ... they been saying that for the last hundred years.

And we still don't believe it.
 
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Ya ... they been saying that for the last hundred years.

And we still don't believe it.

Christians have been proclaiming the "end times are here" for the last 2000 years. So what does that tell you?
 
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Christians have been proclaiming the "end times are here" for the last 2000 years. So what does that tell you?
That they know something scientists don't.
 
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That they know something scientists don't.

You appear to have missed the point. The end times apparently have come and gone repeatedly in the last 2000 years. Why is that?
 
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Are you all listening to this stuff, where time and time again pitabread has made a similar claim, as well as something like "I/we don't understand science" (science meaning only their interpretations, conclusions of what the study of the natural world tells us). When, just as many times, I've asked him/them to simply prove it in an open discussion right here on the discussion boards, and as I recall I made the offer as simple and reasonable as possible. However, it was always followed by excuses, and links to elsewhere, not here as requested where the link can be discussed in detail as part of that proof, yet he still makes a claim like that.

I once tried engaging you in an open and honest discussion about the scientific method (e.g. to start with the basics). I asked you what your understanding of the scientific method was as a starting point. You completely stone-walled and couldn't even meet me half way. At which point I realized you have zero interest in learning or engaging in honest discussion. You are simply here to stir the pot and apparently little else.

This thread is a perfect example; your response to the material in the OP was little more than a hand-waving dismissal with zero attempt to honestly address any of the content. And like many discussions with you, it ended up devolving into arguing over what words mean (again!).

I will give you some credit though, because at least this appears to be honest:

You are going to think that way regardless of what I think, but I don't and never will accept your evidence as reason to believe evolution is a fact.

Why you can't continue to be honest like that, I do not know.

Hopefully when you sit in judgement your creator can give you some points for that, despite everything else you post on this forum.
 
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You appear to have missed the point. The end times apparently have come and gone repeatedly in the last 2000 years. Why is that?
Because people don't understand dispensation theology as it was meant to be understood.

Either that or they disagree with it so they can conveniently say the Bible is wrong.
 
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