Creationist Resources?

[Heartfullofchrist]

Hello, dear brothers and sisters in Christ!
I was wondering if any of the other young earth Biblical Creationists could send me some resources that you personally find useful and helpful when defending the word of God! I would appreciate it so much!
God Bless!

 

[Tutorman]

Answers in Genesis is a great resource they even has scientific papers and such.

 

[Halbhh]

Hello, dear brothers and sisters in Christ!
I was wondering if any of the other young earth Biblical Creationists could send me some resources that you personally find useful and helpful when defending the word of God! I would appreciate it so much!
God Bless!

The genealogy to Christ from Adam begins after Adam and Eve were no longer inside the Garden of Eden with God, Who is eternal, and not limited by time. The timeline estimate on that geneology counts that time starting from Adam and Eve no longer in the Garden, and assuming the genealogy has no gaps (there is more than one available in scripture) until Christ.

But we do not know from the Bible how long they were in the Garden. With the Eternal One for Whom time is so little a thing, and with the Tree of Life in the Garden....

How much time passed in the external world of Earth while they walked in the Garden with God?

We do not know.

It could have been some vast stretch of time for all we know.

That's biblically consistent -- that it could have been any particular length of time.

Also, biblically, we do not know how much time passed during verse 1 of Genesis 1:1 before the moment later in verse 2:

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.


The heavens are the entire universe, and we do not know how much time passed, biblically, during verse 1, before the moment in verse 2.

It could have been a vast stretch of time.

Adding assumptions not in the Bible a person could say or think or assert it was a short time.

But the Bible does not say that.

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Resource: The Bible without added assumptions it does not say.

 

[nolidad]

Hello, dear brothers and sisters in Christ!
I was wondering if any of the other young earth Biblical Creationists could send me some resources that you personally find useful and helpful when defending the word of God! I would appreciate it so much!
God Bless!

Institure of Creation Research has legions of research and their acts and facts are great reports of why Creation is far better supported by Science than evolution and the BB.

also on you tube- there are great seminars done by YEC scientists on many many subjects. Jut type in young earth creation.

Some that I love are:

Dr. Austin
Dr. Menton
Dr. Purdom
Spike Psariss
Dr. Jason Lisle.

 

[Heartfullofchrist]

Institure of Creation Research has legions of research and their acts and facts are great reports of why Creation is far better supported by Science than evolution and the BB.

also on you tube- there are great seminars done by YEC scientists on many many subjects. Jut type in young earth creation.

Some that I love are:

Dr. Austin
Dr. Menton
Dr. Purdom
Spike Psariss
Dr. Jason Lisle.

Wow thank you!! I actually LOVE Dr. Purdom and have seen many of her lectures on YouTube!

 

[nolidad]

Wow thank you!! I actually LOVE Dr. Purdom and have seen many of her lectures on YouTube!

You are welcome!

 

[nolidad]

The genealogy to Christ from Adam begins after Adam and Eve were no longer inside the Garden of Eden with God, Who is eternal, and not limited by time. The timeline estimate on that geneology counts that time starting from Adam and Eve no longer in the Garden, and assuming the genealogy has no gaps (there is more than one available in scripture) until Christ.

But we do not know from the Bible how long they were in the Garden. With the Eternal One for Whom time is so little a thing, and with the Tree of Life in the Garden....

How much time passed in the external world of Earth while they walked in the Garden with God?

We do not know.

It could have been some vast stretch of time for all we know.

That's biblically consistent -- that it could have been any particular length of time.

Also, biblically, we do not know how much time passed during verse 1 of Genesis 1:1 before the moment later in verse 2:

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.


The heavens are the entire universe, and we do not know how much time passed, biblically, during verse 1, before the moment in verse 2.

It could have been a vast stretch of time.

Adding assumptions not in the Bible a person could say or think or assert it was a short time.

But the Bible does not say that.

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Resource: The Bible without added assumptions it does not say.

Actually we do know the time between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2---0

I know there has been much argument about tohu va bohu meaning and the earth BECAME empty and desolate- but there is simply no warrant in Scripture or in geology for it!

Verse 2 simply describes how God created the earth (empty and barren) and then the rest of the chapter shows how an empty barren earth and filled it with life!

cf.
Isaiah 45:17-19 King James Version (KJV)
17 But Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

18 For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord; and there is none else.

 

[Halbhh]

Actually we do know the time between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2---0

I know there has been much argument about tohu va bohu meaning and the earth BECAME empty and desolate- but there is simply no warrant in Scripture or in geology for it!

Verse 2 simply describes how God created the earth (empty and barren) and then the rest of the chapter shows how an empty barren earth and filled it with life!

cf.
Isaiah 45:17-19 King James Version (KJV)
17 But Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

18 For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord; and there is none else.

Are you familiar with Matthew 7:24-27?

...the only way to make it.

What Christ said is an absolute truth, and what He said happens will always happen, just as He said.

 

[mark kennedy]

You might try this thread, it's accumulated links for years:

Creation Science Resources

I can track down secular sources if there is ever something you wanted to research.

Grace and peace,
Mark

 

[nolidad]

Are you familiar with Matthew 7:24-27?

...the only way to make it.

What Christ said is an absolute truth, and what He said happens will always happen, just as He said.

Very familiar with the verse, just not sure why you are bringing it here.

 

[Halbhh]

Hello, dear brothers and sisters in Christ!
I was wondering if any of the other young earth Biblical Creationists could send me some resources that you personally find useful and helpful when defending the word of God! I would appreciate it so much!
God Bless!

If we learned tomorrow the Earth is 100,000 years old, or 4.5 billion, or 23 years old, it will not affect our faith if we are only on the true secure foundation:

24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. 26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.”

Very familiar with the verse, just not sure why you are bringing it here.

If we care about our brother and sisters, in love, John 13:34, then want to be sure they are on the rock Christ told us to build on.

Because we care about them. If a theory or assumption anyone has about Genesis chapter 1, such as how much time passed during verse 1, gets disproven, it should not affect our faith even the slightest bit, if we are totally on the rock Christ said to build on -- hearing and doing His words in the gospels.

 

[nolidad]

If we learned tomorrow the Earth is 100,000 years old, or 4.5 billion, or 23 years old, it will not affect our faith if we are only on the true secure foundation:

24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. 26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.”



If we care about our brother and sisters, in love, John 13:34, then want to be sure they are on the rock Christ told us to build on.

Because we care about them. If a theory or assumption anyone has about Genesis chapter 1, such as how much time passed during verse 1, gets disproven, it should not affect our faith even the slightest bit, if we are totally on the rock Christ said to build on -- hearing and doing His words in the gospels.

I appreciate your innocence in this war on the veracity of Scripture. If you can destroy Genesis you call into question all teh claims of Scripture!

We can look out at American society and see the results (or at least a corroborating cause) of what happens when believers compromise away clear teachings of Scripture!

We now have believers rejecting hell, rejecting the physical resurrection of Jesus and many other clear truths.

Yes knowing christ is sweet and it allows us a wonderful ife! But we are commanded to stand and provode a reasoned defense for the hope within us and that also means in a 6 literal day creation, an approx 6,000 year old earth, a real global flood, Babel and the death, resurrection of Jesus!

 

[Halbhh]

I appreciate your innocence in this war on the veracity of Scripture. If you can destroy Genesis you call into question all teh claims of Scripture!

We can look out at American society and see the results (or at least a corroborating cause) of what happens when believers compromise away clear teachings of Scripture!

We now have believers rejecting hell, rejecting the physical resurrection of Jesus and many other clear truths.

Yes knowing christ is sweet and it allows us a wonderful ife! But we are commanded to stand and provode a reasoned defense for the hope within us and that also means in a 6 literal day creation, an approx 6,000 year old earth, a real global flood, Babel and the death, resurrection of Jesus!

All you said here is biblical except the statement the Earth is 6,000 years old which is nowhere in the Bible, and not Biblical, and a stumbling block that will destroy the faith of the weak.

It's an added idea.

It's okay to have ideas, theories so long as we do not try to claim they are God's Word.

Genesis chapter 1 is 100% true I believe, and I take it literally, but we should not ever add to scripture and say the Earth is 6,000 years old as if that is God's word -- it is not in the Bible, not anywhere.

I don't worry about if others guess at little things that do not matter to salvation -- such as the trivial number of the mere years of age of Earth, which is nowhere in the Bible -- but when anyone claims something is in the Bible and that claimed idea causes others to stumble in actual real faith in Christ, and the stated idea is not in the Bible, we all should object.

 

[nolidad]

All you said here is biblical except the statement the Earth is 6,000 years old which is nowhere in the Bible, and not Biblical, and a stumbling block that will destroy the faith of the weak.

It's an added idea.

It's okay to have ideas, theories so long as we do not try to claim they are God's Word.

Genesis chapter 1 is 100% true I believe, and I take it literally, but we should not ever add to scripture and say the Earth is 6,000 years old as if that is God's word -- it is not in the Bible, not anywhere.

I don't worry about if others guess at little things that do not matter to salvation -- such as the trivial number of the mere years of age of Earth, which is nowhere in the Bible -- but when anyone claims something is in the Bible and that claimed idea causes others to stumble in actual real faith in Christ, and the stated idea is not in the Bible, we all should object.

Well the bible does not say the universe was created on May 8th 4004 B.C. You are correct.

But when one simply takes the genealogies of the patriarchs from Jesus to Adam and simply do the math

We find a creation time of 6-8 k years. Anything longer is a compromise with secularists who reject the bible.

 

[Halbhh]

Well the bible does not say the universe was created on May 8th 4004 B.C. You are correct.

But when one simply takes the genealogies of the patriarchs from Jesus to Adam and simply do the math

We actually agree on that! (the part I quoted)

See post #3 -- I think you have the the likely correct guesstimate or calculation, making the same assumption of no gaps in the genealogy.

Having a number of years since the Garden of Eden is not something that can save anyone. It's not the gospel message, the word of Christ, thus not what I'd ever preach to the lost. But it's at least a reasonable calculation. It's something believers can discuss, after already saved, as a mere interesting thing (not a saving theory).

Again, I believe in Genesis chapter 1, and take it literally.

I think also the Earth is very much older than the time since Adam and Eve left the Garden, but this is only a trivial thing, a mere estimate. The wonderful and good message to us of Genesis chapter 1 is received by true listening -- putting aside argument and mental talk and doctrines, and truly listening. It transforms the listener's state of mind, lifting us up. We hear the wonderful message repeated 7 times. Hallelujah.

 

[nolidad]

We actually agree on that! (the part I quoted)

See post #3 -- I think you have the the likely correct guesstimate or calculation, making the same assumption of no gaps in the genealogy.

Having a number of years since the Garden of Eden is not something that can save anyone. It's not the gospel message, the word of Christ, thus not what I'd ever preach to the lost. But it's at least a reasonable calculation. It's something believers can discuss, after already saved, as a mere interesting thing (not a saving theory).

Again, I believe in Genesis chapter 1, and take it literally.

I think also the Earth is very much older than the time since Adam and Eve left the Garden, but this is only a trivial thing, a mere estimate. The wonderful and good message to us of Genesis chapter 1 is received by true listening -- putting aside argument and mental talk and doctrines, and truly listening. It transforms the listener's state of mind, lifting us up. We hear the wonderful message repeated 7 times. Hallelujah.

Your last paragraph is troubling.

Doctrine is critical! Paul told Titus and Timothy to preach sound doctrine! While believing in a billions year old universe will not cause one to lose their salvation- it opens a door for all other false doctrines to come in and they have since Darwin.

I do not look to go beat people over the head, but I will not concede one point of the Word of God no matter how upset the hearer gets because they want to hold to a differing opinion.

 

[Halbhh]

Your last paragraph is troubling.

Doctrine is critical! Paul told Titus and Timothy to preach sound doctrine! While believing in a billions year old universe will not cause one to lose their salvation- it opens a door for all other false doctrines to come in and they have since Darwin.

I do not look to go beat people over the head, but I will not concede one point of the Word of God no matter how upset the hearer gets because they want to hold to a differing opinion.

Sound Christian doctrine is found by taking in 100% of the New Testament I think. Not partial reading.

Our disagreement about guessing about the time passing during verse 1 of Gen 1:1 is mere speculation -- of little meaning except when it blocks some from finding God, who are lost, not yet saved. If something thinks the Earth is old, and then some person instead of preaching them the saving gospel gives them a young Earth theory, then it's a huge mistake, as it merely makes the Bible appear (an illusion) as if merely mistaken, when in reality the Bible does not specify the age of Earth at all, not even a bit.

Have you confessed your sins, and fallen on Jesus Christ as your Redeemer? If so, go and spread the gospel message Christ preached.

 

[nolidad]

Sound Christian doctrine is found by taking in 100% of the New Testament I think. Not partial reading.

Our disagreement about guessing about the time passing during verse 1 of Gen 1:1 is mere speculation -- of little meaning except when it blocks some from finding God, who are lost, not yet saved. If something thinks the Earth is old, and then some person instead of preaching them the saving gospel gives them a young Earth theory, then it's a huge mistake, as it merely makes the Bible appear (an illusion) as if merely mistaken, when in reality the Bible does not specify the age of Earth at all, not even a bit.

Have you confessed your sins, and fallen on Jesus Christ as your Redeemer? If so, go and spread the gospel message Christ preached.

So do you believe that
creation, the flood and the tower of Babel, Abraham and Moses are irrelevant as well as the prophets?

I spend huge times in the NT, but if you destroy the foundations of why Jesus came and died- then as is shown in society- His death seems inane!

To show a secular minded personm, that the world is not a cosmic mistake and science supports it,opens the door for them to consider Jesus as Savior and Lord.


What makes you think in 45 years of following the Lord I have not done much gospel preaching?

 

[Kate30]

Hello, dear brothers and sisters in Christ!
I was wondering if any of the other young earth Biblical Creationists could send me some resources that you personally find useful and helpful when defending the word of God! I would appreciate it so much!
God Bless!

Hi Heartfullofchrist I hope you are well. I did enjoy ( in search of the genesis world ) Eric A Von Fange. He does much research on the Piltdown man hoax which played a large part in evolutions acceptance of today’s view of things. Malcom Bowdens books are also very good for research as well. Such as ( the rise of the evolution fraud. The ape men and a few other titles that I can’t remember but I’m sure you shall find . The are also controversial books such as Marshall Halls book. ( The earth is not moving ). Which I found most interesting especially when wondering why the earth was created first before the sun and the moon when reading the biblical account . Even more so, since modern science tells us that we are supposed to be rotating around the sun. Anyway food for thought those are some of the books they helped me search deeper into God’s wonderful creation and our origins as well.

 

[Halbhh]

So do you believe that
creation, the flood and the tower of Babel, Abraham and Moses are irrelevant as well as the prophets?

I spend huge times in the NT, but if you destroy the foundations of why Jesus came and died- then as is shown in society- His death seems inane!

To show a secular minded personm, that the world is not a cosmic mistake and science supports it,opens the door for them to consider Jesus as Savior and Lord.


What makes you think in 45 years of following the Lord I have not done much gospel preaching?

Could I kindly suggest get plenty of sleep and pray the Lord's Prayer each day?

As many, perhaps hundreds here already know, I believe in all of the Old Testament, and all the miracles.

We should be able to believe God made the Universe in the amazing way it is, as we can see it, vast and wonderous.

We should not lack faith or want the Universe to be simpler in order to be able to believe God made it.

It's His. Vast, complex, ancient, amazing. Our God is that amazing.

What we see -- the vast and old Universe -- fits perfectly to scripture.

Have you read 1 Corinthians 8 NIV
and if so, or once you do, what is the general message? Does it say to make sacrifices of what you'd prefer to do, prefer to go around talking about for instance, to sacrifice that personal pleasure/personal preference...to give it up for the sake of the weak?

Read and see.