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The pharisees in the bible were always questioning Jesus' teachings. They always asked questions like "are you saying it's ok to break the law?" or "shall we keep sinning so grace may be abound"?

No one is saying sinning is okay. After you are saved you should walk in the new man and if you have sins in your life then repent from them. But I am saying that doesn't save you, that's not what makes you justified, that is part of sanctification and discipleship, not salvation. God will discipline his disobedient children like any loving parent would, but he doesn't give up on them and throw them to hell... Like any reasonable parent wouldn't. Earthly consequences happen to born again believers if they don't live right. But salvation is faith in Jesus Christ alone and believing he died on the cross for your sins.
 
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The Chasm between our 'righteousness' and His holiness is immense.
No one attains the perfection of Jesus in this life - we all fall short every instant...

Our righteousness is as filthy rags, only His imputed righteousness has any standing.
Anyone claiming they have lived exactly as Jesus did, even for an instant, is self deceived.

Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from this body of death?

Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord!

So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin.

There is your answer... Romans 7

What sins are the writer to the Romans referring to?
 
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The pharisees in the bible were always questioning Jesus' teachings. They always asked questions like "are you saying it's ok to break the law?" or "shall we keep sinning so grace may be abound"?

No one is saying sinning is okay. After you are saved you should walk in the new man and if you have sins in your life then repent from them. But I am saying that doesn't save you, that's not what makes you justified, that is part of sanctification and discipleship, not salvation. God will discipline his disobedient children like any loving parent would, but he doesn't give up on them and throw them to hell... Like any reasonable parent wouldn't. Earthly consequences happen to born again believers if they don't live right. But salvation is faith in Jesus Christ alone and believing he died on the cross for your sins.
Hello can you please show by example how can a person of faith live their lives?
 
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To be SEALED by the holy spirit means you can't lose your salvation, that's what scripture says. And the holy spirit is a HE.


Yes, to get saved it is by faith alone. You are fleshly minded because only those with the flesh think the way you do. "Oh so is the gospel a licence to sin all you want?" You obviously don't have the spirit in you or understand the point. That's your problem. But the answer is we will sin until the day we die whether you want to or not, no one is sinless. That's why we need Jesus. That's the forgiving grace of God. We are saved by faith ALONE, not our works, plain and simple. Both Paul and Jesus taught that. You can't grasp the gospel.


Yes we should live holy lives. Not to get saved, but because it's the right thing to do. Salvation is already established, by faith ALONE.
"You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone" James 2:24
 
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"You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone" James 2:24
Romans 4:1-6. I guess you believe there’s a contradiction in scripture? James is speaking of hypocrisy. If one professes to have faith his fruit ought to bear that out. If not it’s a dead faith or actually one who has not faith. As John the Baptist told the Pharisees, bear fruit worthy of repentance. Matthew 3:8. Same thing
 
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Romans 4:1-6. I guess you believe there’s a contradiction in scripture? James is speaking of hypocrisy. If one professes to have faith his fruit ought to bear that out. If not it’s a dead faith or actually one who has not faith. As John the Baptist told the Pharisees, bear fruit worthy of repentance. Matthew 3:8. Same thing
There is no contradiction, Romans does not say "we are saved by faith ALONE" and the verse you mention with John the Baptist says "to bear fruits" so it is something you do.
 
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There is no contradiction, Romans does not say "we are saved by faith ALONE" and the verse you mention with John the Baptist says "to bear fruits" so it is something you do.
Its faith apart from works. Therefore faith alone. Reread vs 3-5. Where do you get that Abraham’s works had something to do with his justification? And ones fruit is the evidence of what tree it is. A tree is known by his fruit
 
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"You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone" James 2:24
Lol I was waiting for that. Read that verse in CONTEXT. The book of James talks about how we should treat other brethren, not how to get saved.

14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,

16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

Does the person who is hungry and in need of clothes and food saved by faith? No, you must give them food and clothes... That's what the verse is about... Read the verses after not one verse and make it pertain to salvation to feed your agenda when it isn't. It's easy to take a verse without taking the context of it and apply our own meaning to it.
 
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There is no contradiction, Romans does not say "we are saved by faith ALONE" and the verse you mention with John the Baptist says "to bear fruits" so it is something you do.
Yes it does. Faith, not works. Faith alone. You obviously don't read the bible because this is a fundamental message of the gospel... You believe in works based salvation, therefore you will perish unless you repent. This is just a warning out of love.
 
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I hope everyone had a blessed Easter.
Jesus is risen, and isn't this Good News.

We might add to our prayer time a prayer for those who were injured in Sri Lanka, and of course for their families.
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So, i wanted to ask you... Have any of you ever heard of OSAS?
This concept is an interesting outcome of salvation, and a prime result of Grace.
Its a "man made" idea, and similar to the word "Trinity", its not found in any Greek Text, or in any Translation of Scripture that make up any New Testament, extant.

Now, about "Grace".
I like this word "Grace", as this word describes the nature of God, and gives us an understanding of what the Love of God is like. His love is Grace.
I guess we could say that a combination of words like (charity, compassion, mercy, hope, goodness, forgiveness), and similar could barely try to help us understand God and His nature of Grace, because its Salvation that really spotlights, "Grace", as this is God giving the life of His Son, for the undeserving, and in this we see......Grace.......The Grace of God.

If we consider that Jesus is the heart of God, and when we have seen Jesus, we have seen the Father, then Grace also accurately describes ......Jesus.
Jesus, literally IS Grace.
This could be explained or demonstrated by the idea that God Himself, wrapped in human flesh, born of a virgin, was "manifested as a man, as a Savior, to take away the sin of the world"......and He did.
Jesus bore the sin of the world, but the application of this Grace, is not executed into/unto a person, unless they meet the one requirement that God requires for Him to give to you the "Righteousness of Christ:....and your FAITH, is the one "work" that God requires for you to receive the imputed Righteousness of HIMSELF.
No other work will He accept from you, to save you, and recreate you as "born again" for eternity.

The Blood Atonement is Grace.......and Salvation is a product of God's Grace.
The Cross, the blood of Jesus, the resurrection, these are all examples of Grace as a literal reality, regarding how the Love of God is expressed towards all of His creation, as perfect love and mercy and hope.

Another truth and perfect way to express Grace/Salvation, in the Christian context, would be......OSAS.

So, what is this, exactly? As there are many deceits written about it in books, and pamphlets, and on forums like this one, and many denominations are probably originally birthed as some type of resistance to the very idea of what they think it means.
What i can tell you, is that the KJV and the idea/subject of OSAS, get insulted more by Christians, then any of the cults you find, such as JW's, and Mormons, and others.
Yes, the KJV and OSAS, endure more mean spirited carnal ridicule, by people who say they are born again, then any true false religious cult, or all of them, combined.
And this is fascinating, as the reality is, most, maybe 90 % of the people who have such hatred in their heart for both the KJV and idea of OSAS, actually have a very skewed and misinformed understanding of both.........and its to this point, i'll write a brief bit of clarification, regarding only one......OSAS.

So what is it?......What is OSAS?......... well, simply put its God's Grace.
Thats what it is.
First, its an understanding that you are born again only once, and that you can't be "unborn again".
Just as you can't go back into your mother's womb, you also can't stop being 'in Christ".
You can't be "unborn" as a heavenly Son of God, just like you can't be unborn from the Mother who birthed you into this earthly existence.
Born is Born.....done is done........"It is finished", once it is applied to you..(Blood Atonement).
So, OSAS, is an understanding-comprehension of Salvation and of the Blood Atonement, that realizes that the mercy of God that saved you, is the same mercy that keeps you saved.
Its the SAME. = He who saved you, will keep you saved., and you have no part in this...none.
Its an understanding that the Law that once judged you as a sinner, has been abolished by the Cross, and thereby has no more power or authority to judge you ever again. This is why the scripture says that "Grace came by Jesus", and we are "Under Grace" now, and no longer under (being judged by) the Law.
Romans 4:8...study it.

And this means that God judged Himself on a Cross, as guilty for our sin, and this judgment will never fall again on a born again Son of God in Eternity/Heaven, as it already fell on Jesus The Christ, on earth.
If you, the reader, are not saved, if you are not born again, and you die, you will meet God as your Judge, and you can realize what happened to Jesus on a Cross, to honestly evaluate what you are up-against, for eternity, if you die as a Christ Rejector.
But if you are born again, then you will never meet God as Judge in heaven, as Christ has already met the Judge for you, on earth.
You will only meet your God as your Father, ......IF you are born again.

Then there is this part. A person who realizes that OSAS, is just giving God full credit for saving them and keeping them saved, also understands that they are to "be ye holy, as God is holy"...>"present your body a living sacrifice"..... everyday, every minute... without FAIL.
See...
OSAS, is not a "license to sin", as it is portrayed by liars and similar.....not at all.
OSAS, is simply the understanding of "born again"....which gives GOD and Christ full credit, for Salvation...for saving us and keeping us saved.
A person who understands that God saves once, and that "born again" happens once, and
"God is the author and finisher of our faith, and that the God who started Salvation in us, is faithful to complete it".....OSAS =believes this truth, and does not try to add their self effort (works) in place OF this truth.... that God alone saves you and keeps you saved.
Philippians 1:6
Hebrews 12:2

OSAS, defined....= simply gives God full credit for Salvation......the beginning of it, and the ending of it.
Thats it.
Simple.

And finally, a person who understands that Grace, is OSAS...(they are the same), that Salvation itself is explained perfectly by OSAS.....WE understand also a very important understanding.
And this is where the problem starts for legalists, as its this one misunderstanding, that if they could come to understand this one theological fact, and grasp it, they could come to see the Light, that Grace is actually OSAS.

Here is their issue.......... A Legalist, or someone who hates OSAS, does not understand that our Christian Discipleship, is something we do because we ARE saved, and never something we do to try to save ourselves or keep ourselves saved.
In other words....Salvation, is all of God, applied to us...and then, ONCE WE HAVE IT.... we try to live a lifestyle (Discipleship) that reflects what we have become, that is caused and kept ONLY by God and the Blood of Jesus.
The legalist, has the idea that God started salvation, and they finish it by their lifestyle, and if they get this wrong, or don't do enough, then, God will remove them from the Book of Life, and Jesus will find a way out of their body, and take the Holy Spirit with Him.
Which of course, is impossible, but that is what would have to happen, if you could "lose it".(lose your salvation). And so, OSAS, understands that this is not possible. Its not possible for Jesus to exit you once He is living IN YOU and you are "in Christ"..= "unborn again". However the legalist will insist that this can happen if you dont continue in a lifestyle that they feel QUALIFIES you to stay saved and inherit heaven by works, ONLY if you continue.....

So, one thing to add... and for you to consider.
Every work, you can do for God... commandment keeping, confessing sins, missionary work, joining a church, living a holy lifestyle.... Listen, all of these DEEDS, can be done, even if Jesus never hung as God on a Cross.
Now think about that...
In other words, all that a legalist is doing to "stay saved".. all of it, can be done by ANYONE, and Jesus never had to come down here as God and die, if any of this could save you.
So, a question for you legalist....= Would any of those works you are doing that you can do, before the Cross was given, or after.......If there was NO CROSS, would any of your works, works, works, save you?
NO !!
Then why would you believe that if none of those can save you, and only Jesus Saves, .. would you believe that what won't save you without the Blood Atonement, the CROSS......why would you think any of these works, if not done after you are SAVED, that this could cause you not to be saved?
This type Legalist mentality, is not only missing truth, its missing Logic.
So, a legalist believes that what can't save them...is able to take away their salvation, if they dont do the LIST of works, whatever that is, (till they die) as its a different list for each legalist.
> Wild.

So, the OSAS person, understands that all that legalism junk, is not something they will ever be found dead worrying about, because they understand that the God who saves us, keeps us saved, and that is OSAS.......thats what it means.
It means to give full credit to God and Christ for Salvation....Both saving us and keeping us saved, as this is GRACE, and GRACE is OSAS.

Philippians 1:6
Hebrews 12:2

Is OSAS the same as "Eternal Security"? I don't believe anyone truly Born of God can go to Hell, as John says "Anyone who is Born of God overcomes the world... does not continue to sin...and the Evil one does not touch him" (1 John 5:18). Doesn't this show the ETERNALITY of Eternal Life in a Born Again believer?
 
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Sheep and goats.. some were NEVER saved.

Prove it.

There is nothing whatsoever in that scripture that says they were never saved, we were not privy to the details of their life, simple as that, so, yet another untrue, made up claim by OSAS.

If we had been privy to the details of their life and it happened they were not saved, then maybe that was because they didn't do the deeds they were required to, for whatever reason...maybe they didn't think they had to.

the scripture on the Sheep and the Goats, simply tells us how it is, in that they/we must help the poor, and if they do not, they are cast into outer darkness. IOW they must do their works or go to hell. Jesus was very good at putting things very simply, where it cannot be twisted with any truth, it takes untruth/deception like happened here to make it "seem" untrue to those who choose to use it as reason, or more like an excuse, to join OSAS.

So to finish proving this out as just another deception designed to support the deception of OSAS, I would ask blade, how do you know they were never saved to begin with?
 
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Anyone who is Born of God overcomes the world... does not continue to sin...

Are you aware you just defended the wrong side? God forces no one to do anything and you said it yourself, those born of God "overcome" meaning they make an effort to not continue in sin, the very thing we have been trying to tell you all, yet some claim they can sin as they like and still go to heaven, a couple of OSASr's recently claimed we can continue in not doing good, and in doing evil, and still get to heaven.

"Overcoming" is an action, and in this case, and in context, overcoming our continuing in sin. Your scripture is clear about that, but only to those that want to see, the others? well, we already know they won't see it, but will deceptively attempt to turn it into something else.
 
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Hi All

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May we all rejoice in the love of the risen Christ.:amen:

God bless
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If this hasn't been answered, all you can do is edit the post by removing all text, and leaving a period, comma, or something like that in it's place, then posting that period so you end up with a post with virtually nothing there.

I think it can be reported as well but i believe the mods prefer we do what I just mentioned because it saves them the time...seems reasonable to me anyway.

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I hope everyone had a blessed Easter.
Jesus is risen, and isn't this Good News.

We might add to our prayer time a prayer for those who were injured in Sri Lanka, and of course for their families.
--------------------------------------

So, i wanted to ask you... Have any of you ever heard of OSAS?
This concept is an interesting outcome of salvation, and a prime result of Grace.
Its a "man made" idea, and similar to the word "Trinity", its not found in any Greek Text, or in any Translation of Scripture that make up any New Testament, extant.

Now, about "Grace".
I like this word "Grace", as this word describes the nature of God, and gives us an understanding of what the Love of God is like. His love is Grace.
I guess we could say that a combination of words like (charity, compassion, mercy, hope, goodness, forgiveness), and similar could barely try to help us understand God and His nature of Grace, because its Salvation that really spotlights, "Grace", as this is God giving the life of His Son, for the undeserving, and in this we see......Grace.......The Grace of God.

If we consider that Jesus is the heart of God, and when we have seen Jesus, we have seen the Father, then Grace also accurately describes ......Jesus.
Jesus, literally IS Grace.
This could be explained or demonstrated by the idea that God Himself, wrapped in human flesh, born of a virgin, was "manifested as a man, as a Savior, to take away the sin of the world"......and He did.
Jesus bore the sin of the world, but the application of this Grace, is not executed into/unto a person, unless they meet the one requirement that God requires for Him to give to you the "Righteousness of Christ:....and your FAITH, is the one "work" that God requires for you to receive the imputed Righteousness of HIMSELF.
No other work will He accept from you, to save you, and recreate you as "born again" for eternity.

The Blood Atonement is Grace.......and Salvation is a product of God's Grace.
The Cross, the blood of Jesus, the resurrection, these are all examples of Grace as a literal reality, regarding how the Love of God is expressed towards all of His creation, as perfect love and mercy and hope.

Another truth and perfect way to express Grace/Salvation, in the Christian context, would be......OSAS.

So, what is this, exactly? As there are many deceits written about it in books, and pamphlets, and on forums like this one, and many denominations are probably originally birthed as some type of resistance to the very idea of what they think it means.
What i can tell you, is that the KJV and the idea/subject of OSAS, get insulted more by Christians, then any of the cults you find, such as JW's, and Mormons, and others.
Yes, the KJV and OSAS, endure more mean spirited carnal ridicule, by people who say they are born again, then any true false religious cult, or all of them, combined.
And this is fascinating, as the reality is, most, maybe 90 % of the people who have such hatred in their heart for both the KJV and idea of OSAS, actually have a very skewed and misinformed understanding of both.........and its to this point, i'll write a brief bit of clarification, regarding only one......OSAS.

So what is it?......What is OSAS?......... well, simply put its God's Grace.
Thats what it is.
First, its an understanding that you are born again only once, and that you can't be "unborn again".
Just as you can't go back into your mother's womb, you also can't stop being 'in Christ".
You can't be "unborn" as a heavenly Son of God, just like you can't be unborn from the Mother who birthed you into this earthly existence.
Born is Born.....done is done........"It is finished", once it is applied to you..(Blood Atonement).
So, OSAS, is an understanding-comprehension of Salvation and of the Blood Atonement, that realizes that the mercy of God that saved you, is the same mercy that keeps you saved.
Its the SAME. = He who saved you, will keep you saved., and you have no part in this...none.
Its an understanding that the Law that once judged you as a sinner, has been abolished by the Cross, and thereby has no more power or authority to judge you ever again. This is why the scripture says that "Grace came by Jesus", and we are "Under Grace" now, and no longer under (being judged by) the Law.
Romans 4:8...study it.

And this means that God judged Himself on a Cross, as guilty for our sin, and this judgment will never fall again on a born again Son of God in Eternity/Heaven, as it already fell on Jesus The Christ, on earth.
If you, the reader, are not saved, if you are not born again, and you die, you will meet God as your Judge, and you can realize what happened to Jesus on a Cross, to honestly evaluate what you are up-against, for eternity, if you die as a Christ Rejector.
But if you are born again, then you will never meet God as Judge in heaven, as Christ has already met the Judge for you, on earth.
You will only meet your God as your Father, ......IF you are born again.

Then there is this part. A person who realizes that OSAS, is just giving God full credit for saving them and keeping them saved, also understands that they are to "be ye holy, as God is holy"...>"present your body a living sacrifice"..... everyday, every minute... without FAIL.
See...
OSAS, is not a "license to sin", as it is portrayed by liars and similar.....not at all.
OSAS, is simply the understanding of "born again"....which gives GOD and Christ full credit, for Salvation...for saving us and keeping us saved.
A person who understands that God saves once, and that "born again" happens once, and
"God is the author and finisher of our faith, and that the God who started Salvation in us, is faithful to complete it".....OSAS =believes this truth, and does not try to add their self effort (works) in place OF this truth.... that God alone saves you and keeps you saved.
Philippians 1:6
Hebrews 12:2

OSAS, defined....= simply gives God full credit for Salvation......the beginning of it, and the ending of it.
Thats it.
Simple.

And finally, a person who understands that Grace, is OSAS...(they are the same), that Salvation itself is explained perfectly by OSAS.....WE understand also a very important understanding.
And this is where the problem starts for legalists, as its this one misunderstanding, that if they could come to understand this one theological fact, and grasp it, they could come to see the Light, that Grace is actually OSAS.

Here is their issue.......... A Legalist, or someone who hates OSAS, does not understand that our Christian Discipleship, is something we do because we ARE saved, and never something we do to try to save ourselves or keep ourselves saved.
In other words....Salvation, is all of God, applied to us...and then, ONCE WE HAVE IT.... we try to live a lifestyle (Discipleship) that reflects what we have become, that is caused and kept ONLY by God and the Blood of Jesus.
The legalist, has the idea that God started salvation, and they finish it by their lifestyle, and if they get this wrong, or don't do enough, then, God will remove them from the Book of Life, and Jesus will find a way out of their body, and take the Holy Spirit with Him.
Which of course, is impossible, but that is what would have to happen, if you could "lose it".(lose your salvation). And so, OSAS, understands that this is not possible. Its not possible for Jesus to exit you once He is living IN YOU and you are "in Christ"..= "unborn again". However the legalist will insist that this can happen if you dont continue in a lifestyle that they feel QUALIFIES you to stay saved and inherit heaven by works, ONLY if you continue.....

So, one thing to add... and for you to consider.
Every work, you can do for God... commandment keeping, confessing sins, missionary work, joining a church, living a holy lifestyle.... Listen, all of these DEEDS, can be done, even if Jesus never hung as God on a Cross.
Now think about that...
In other words, all that a legalist is doing to "stay saved".. all of it, can be done by ANYONE, and Jesus never had to come down here as God and die, if any of this could save you.
So, a question for you legalist....= Would any of those works you are doing that you can do, before the Cross was given, or after.......If there was NO CROSS, would any of your works, works, works, save you?
NO !!
Then why would you believe that if none of those can save you, and only Jesus Saves, .. would you believe that what won't save you without the Blood Atonement, the CROSS......why would you think any of these works, if not done after you are SAVED, that this could cause you not to be saved?
This type Legalist mentality, is not only missing truth, its missing Logic.
So, a legalist believes that what can't save them...is able to take away their salvation, if they dont do the LIST of works, whatever that is, (till they die) as its a different list for each legalist.
> Wild.

So, the OSAS person, understands that all that legalism junk, is not something they will ever be found dead worrying about, because they understand that the God who saves us, keeps us saved, and that is OSAS.......thats what it means.
It means to give full credit to God and Christ for Salvation....Both saving us and keeping us saved, as this is GRACE, and GRACE is OSAS.

Philippians 1:6
Hebrews 12:2


Grace is the ability that God gives us to do what we could not do without it.

Grace is God power to obey the Gospel.


Simply put grace is the Holy Spirit; The Spirit of Grace.


Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?
Hebrews 10:28-29


God’s Grace, the Holy Spirit, is given to us, so that we can now walk according to the Spirit and thereby practicing righteousness, rather that living according to the flesh, and practicing the works of the flesh.



For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age,
Titus 2:11-12




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Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?

Your point? Or what exactly does that mean to you?

God’s Grace, the Holy Spirit, is given to us, so that we can now walk according to the Spirit and thereby practicing righteousness, rather that living according to the flesh, and practicing the works of the flesh.

Doing good is up to us, there is nothing that will make us go against our free will. If we do not wish to continue in sin we will work at it until we no longer do, that simple. God is much like our parents trying to get their kids to stop acting badly, and we have all seen, kids are definitely able to do it, in spite of some osasr's saying we can't be good. The real reason OSAS says we can't do good, is they would rather not bother doing good, so they claim we cannot. We are the ones that choose to accept the free gift of salvation offered, and to make an effort not to lose it by acting as we should.

Now for the lazy or those that choose not to bother with acting like we should, they will simply choose the deception if OSAS, and go through their lives satisfied/deluded they are just fine. That's what OSAS is all about, their way, the easy way, not Gods way.

See the comment's on "overcoming" in my last post.
 
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Is OSAS the same as "Eternal Security"? I don't believe anyone truly Born of God can go to Hell, as John says "Anyone who is Born of God overcomes the world... does not continue to sin...and the Evil one does not touch him" (1 John 5:18). Doesn't this show the ETERNALITY of Eternal Life in a Born Again believer?
OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved) is the same thing as eternal security.
 
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He is not specific about this.

The writer spends the entirety of Romans chapter 7 detailing the sin he is guilty of. It is covetousness. He sees things he wants and he knows that desire to be sin.

Rom 7:7 - What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.”

The writer describes the difficulties he has in controlling his thoughts. He never means to imply that he is acting on those thoughts. Acting on the thoughts is addressed at 1 Corinthians 9:

1Co 9:27 - But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.
 
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Hello can you please show by example how can a person of faith live their lives?
The bible is full of it, read the book of 1 John especially. I will not boast about my good works, if that's what you're asking.
 
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