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Intelligent Design isn’t intelligent

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For example, more and more people believe in evolution.
You mean more and more people are getting educated and are not programmed/brainwashed by their middle eastern cult to reject it?
More states are rejecting the death penalty.

Right - your hero Yahweh loves killing. Even little fetuses in utero for the sins of their parents! Such a wonderful God!
We are turning problems into business opportunities rather than solving them. Science refusing to study my theory concerning gut signals.
Lots of evidence of devilishness around. :eek:
So precious how you combine cynical denigrations with weak attempts at self-deprecation.
 
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Barbarian observes:
In fact, they are in exactly the right place.

actually they a rent.

No, that's wrong. As you saw earlier, they show up precisely where they should be.

we ae talking about 10-20 my gap.

So for a fossil about 375 million years old, that would be about 0.04 off. Within the margin of error for most radioisotope dating. So that excuse won't work.

so if you consider it to be in the "right place" by the same logic we can call a fossil that appear too late\early by 100 my a "right place fossil".

Nope. That would be a significant error.

Barbarian, regarding building things by copying natural things:
Since self-replication is observed to have originated naturally, it would be merely copying nature

so a self replicating robot isnt evidence for design?

In that case, it would be evidence for copying from nature. That's not what "design" means.
 
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For example, more and more people believe in evolution.

More and more people agree with God's method of making new species. Good deal.

More states are rejecting the death penalty.

Killing people seems like something we should leave to God. The only statement Jesus made on the death penalty was to shame people into letting someone live.

We are turning problems into business opportunities rather than solving them.

Private sector often manages to solve our problems. Never underestimate the profit motive as a way of solving problems. Just make sure your laws don't encourage them to perpetuate problems.

Science refusing to study my theory concerning gut signals.

Actually, scientists have realized that there are many different body signaling systems, and research is ongoing for many of them. Yours, I don't know.
 
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Killing people seems like something we should leave to God. The only statement Jesus made on the death penalty was to shame people into letting someone live.

Jesus upheld the death penalty for dishonoring parents and stated it plainly. He upheld the Law while he was living. Condemning such people to death was part of magnifying the law and making it honorable.

Have you ever considered capital offenders not executed but sentenced to life are really "trophies" for the state? If executed they are no longer trophies. What 'hunter' wants an empty trophy wall?

Private sector often manages to solve our problems. Never underestimate the profit motive as a way of solving problems. Just make sure your laws don't encourage them to perpetuate problems.

We don't have laws to address our most pressing problems, thus we make a business of them. The death penalty is a solution, not a problem.

Actually, scientists have realized that there are many different body signaling systems, and research is ongoing for many of them. Yours, I don't know.

I appreciate this very much. We are only learning how the heart itself exercises control of the body, i.e. "the body has a mind of its own", and may influence the brain in ways yet to be discovered.
 
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Barbarian observes:
Killing people seems like something we should leave to God. The only statement Jesus made on the death penalty was to shame people into letting someone live.

Jesus upheld the death penalty for dishonoring parents and stated it plainly.

Jesus castigated the Pharisees for pretending to follow the old covenant, while not following it. He cites the passage in the OT of death for cursing a parent, while noting that they don't follow it.

Matthew 15:1 Then came to him from Jerusalem scribes and Pharisees, saying: [2] Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the ancients? For they wash not their hands when they eat bread. [3] But he answering, said to them: Why do you also transgress the commandment of God for your tradition? For God said: [4] Honour thy father and mother: And: He that shall curse father or mother, let him die the death. [5] But you say: Whosoever shall say to father or mother, The gift whatsoever proceedeth from me, shall profit thee.

As He said, he came to fulfill the law. The old convenant is not the new covenant. So the OT says that an adulterer must die. Jesus refused to condemn a woman who was an adulterer. If this puzzles you, ask yourself; "do I eat bacon?"

Condemning such people to death was part of magnifying the law and making it honorable.

He shamed a mob out to stone to death a woman caught in adultery, and then told her that He would not condemn her, and that she was to go and sin no more.

Have you ever considered capital offenders not executed but sentenced to life are really "trophies" for the state? If executed they are no longer trophies.

All the trophy hunters I know, kill the animals they consider trophies. My "trophies";

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a pair of great horned owls living at the pond near my house. Over several years, they got comfortable enough with me to let me see this:
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They were, one morning, teaching the owlet to hunt. I was quiet and moved slowly, but they knew I was there, and had gotten sufficiently familiar with me that they didn't react to my presence. The owlet wasn't too happy with me, though.

That moment of mutual trust beats any body part any hunter ever collected from the corpse of an animal he killed.

What 'hunter' wants an empty trophy wall?

All of it seems empty to me. These seemed like old friends; I would go to sleep at night, hearing them softly calling. I miss them.

In bed, listening.
The owl tree fell last year
An empty silence.


We don't have laws to address our most pressing problems, thus we make a business of them. The death penalty is a solution, not a problem.

It's not what Jesus chose to do.

Barbarian observes:
Actually, scientists have realized that there are many different body signaling systems, and research is ongoing for many of them. Yours, I don't know.

I appreciate this very much. We are only learning how the heart itself exercises control of the body, i.e. "the body has a mind of its own", and may influence the brain in ways yet to be discovered.

My son has always had depression; it's a burden he carries every day. Vigorous excercise (he's in his 40s, and still plays hockey) helps a lot, as does sunlight. And he lives in Seattle; artificial sunlight seems to help.

Obviously, chemicals and pheremones affect the brain.

The Pineal Gland and Melatonin

The pineal gland or epiphysis synthesizes and secretes melatonin, a structurally simple hormone that communicates information about environmental lighting to various parts of the body. Ultimately, melatonin has the ability to entrain biological rhythms and has important effects on reproductive function of many animals. The light-transducing ability of the pineal gland has led some to call the pineal the "third eye".

The health of the gut can indeed affect brain functioning, although there is a huge amount of quackery over the way it happens, and what might be done to change how the brain works.

It's not totally crazy, though; there's enough anecdotal and case information to get researchers looking. It's still an open question:


Neuropsychobiology. 2019 Apr 4:1-6

A Systematic Review of the Effect of Probiotic Supplementation on Schizophrenia Symptoms.
Abstract

BACKGROUND:
Derangements of the gut microbiome have been linked to increased systemic inflammation and central nervous system disorders, including schizophrenia. This systematic review thus aimed to investigate the hypothesis that probiotic supplementation improves schizophrenia symptoms.

METHODS:
By using the keywords (probiotic OR gut OR microbiota OR microbiome OR yogurt OR yoghurt OR lactobacillus OR bifidobacterium) AND (schizophrenia OR psychosis), a preliminary search of the PubMed, Medline, Embase, Google Scholar, ClinicalTrials.gov, Clinical Trials Register of the Cochrane Collaboration Depression, Anxiety and Neurosis Group (CCDANTR), and Cochrane Field for Complementary Medicine databases yielded 329 papers published in English between January 1, 1960 and May 1, 2018. Attempts were made to search grey literature as well.

RESULTS:
Three clinical studies were reviewed, comparing the use of probiotics to placebo controls. Applying per-protocol analysis and a fixed-effects model, there was no significant difference in schizophrenia symptoms between the group that received probiotic supplementation and the placebo group post-intervention as the standardized mean difference was -0.0884 (95% CI -0.380 to 0.204, p = 0.551). Separate analyses were performed to investigate the effect of probiotic supplementation on positive or negative symptoms of schizophrenia alone. In both instances, no significant difference was observed as well.

CONCLUSION:
Based on current evidence, limited inferences can be made regarding the efficacy of probiotics in schizophrenia. Although probiotics may have other benefits, for example to regulate bowel movement and ameliorate the metabolic effects of antipsychotic medications, the clinical utility of probiotics in the treatment of schizophrenia patients remains to be validated by future clinical studies.

Front Pharmacol. 2019 Mar 20;10:268
Gut Microbiota-Based Pharmacokinetics and the Antidepressant Mechanism of Paeoniflorin.
Abstract

Paeoniflorin, the main component of Xiaoyao Wan, presents low oral bioavailability and unclear antidepressant mechanism. To elucidate the potential reasons for the low bioavailability of paeoniflorin and explore its antidepressant mechanism from the perspective of the gut microbiota, here, a chronic unpredictable depression model and forced swimming test were firstly performed to examine the antidepressant effects of paeoniflorin. Then the pharmacokinetic study of paeoniflorin in rats was performed based on the gut microbiota; meanwhile, the gut microbiota incubated with paeoniflorin in vitro was used to identify the possible metabolites of paeoniflorin. Molecular virtual docking experiments together with the specific inhibitor tests were applied to investigate the mechanism of paeoniflorin metabolism by the gut microbiota. Finally, the intestinal microbiota composition was analyzed by 16S rRNA gene sequencing technology. The pharmacodynamics tests showed that paeoniflorin had significant antidepressant activity, but its oral bioavailability was 2.32%. Interestingly, we found paeoniflorin was converted into benzoic acid by the gut microbiota, and was mainly excreted through the urine with the gut metabolite benzoic acid as the prominent excreted form. Moreover, paeoniflorin could also regulate the composition of the gut microbiota by increasing the abundance of probiotics. Therefore, the metabolism effect of gut microbiota may be one of the main reasons for the low oral bioavailability of paeoniflorin. Additionally, paeoniflorin can be metabolized into benzoic acid via gut microbiota enzymes, which might exert antidepressant effects through the blood-brain barrier into the brain.

 
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Nope. That would be a significant error.

not according to your criteria. 100 my from about 4.5 billion years is about 2% error. so you have no problem to accept such a fossils and consider it to be in the right place.


In that case, it would be evidence for copying from nature. That's not what "design" means.

so a(self replicating) robot isnt evidence for design.
 
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not according to your criteria. 100 my from about 4.5 billion years is about 2% error. so you have no problem to accept such a fossils and consider it to be in the right place.

Nope. If I'm off by 2mm, building 1.8 meter shutters for my house, that's a reasonable error. If I'm off by the same percentage plotting navigation in the ocean, that's cause for concern.

I can point to a lot of the minor "errors" you first referenced; when we find a fossil that looks out of place, we have to remember that we don't know when that particular species first showed up on Earth. We just know that it had survived to the point that we found it.

On the other hand, when have we found a fossil 100 million years out of place?

(Barbarian notes that copying from nature is not "design.")

so a(self replicating) robot isnt evidence for design.

If it's in nature, it's evidence for nature. Perhaps if you provided a rigorous definition of "robot" we could clear it up for you. Can you do that?
 
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when we find a fossil that looks out of place, we have to remember that we don't know when that particular species first showed up on Earth. We just know that it had survived to the point that we found it.

as i said- you have no problem with an out of place fossils by 100 my, since 100 my from 4.5 is nothing.
 
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as i said- you have no problem with an out of place fossils by 100 my, since 100 my from 4.5 is nothing.

It's instructive that we've never found anything like that. So your claim fails the reality test.
 
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It's instructive that we've never found anything like that. So your claim fails the reality test.

so if i will show you such a thing you will admit that evolution is false, or you have no problem with such a fossil?
 
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so if i will show you such a thing you will admit that evolution is false, or you have no problem with such a fossil?

Looking for a magic bullet? Sorry, there isn't one. If I can show you that there's a scientific explanation for your "out of place fossil", will you admit that YE creationism is a fraud?

What do you think is a species 100 million years out of place? (Barbarian thinks he knows what it is)
 
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Okay so I'll just pick three side by side links in your "chain" and Google search to see what they look like for myself.

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Cynognathus: 1.2-metre (3 ft 11 in) long

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Diademodon: 2 metres (6.6 ft) long

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Probainognathus: around rat sized.

I get that these are just artistic renderings of what they might have looked like. However sizes are based on actual findings.

Point being? That you are not presenting me with a finely graduated chain here with no sudden leaps in it. Just the size in only three links is all over the place. I need a chain leading from one major form to another in which there are no sudden leaps. If this doesn't exists then the conclusion must be that there is not evidence of common descent in the fossil record.

Again we are in a discussion in which one of the possible explanations is that all life had a common creator and the other is that all life has a common ancestor. So in this type of discussion we cannot rely on similarity arguments to prove either case. Similarity is an expectation from both perspectives. The only thing that will prove common descent over common creator in the fossils is a finely graduated chain between two major forms. Something you have not been able to provide.
I’m surprised that you think size is a major obstacle to evolution. A 1% change in size over 100 generations means that you’ll get animals that are twice as large or half as small , over a relatively short period of time.
 
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I already addressed this straw man previously. That's not what we say or expect and you know it, making you a prevaricator.





Not a chain without large leaps of faith between many of the so called links Sir. Here is what Stephen Gould said about the fossil record around the same time Wise was publishing his comments.


"All paleontologists know that the fossil record contains precious little in the way of intermediate forms; transitions between major groups are characteristically abrupt. Gradualists usually extract themselves from this dilemma by invoking the extreme imperfection of the fossil record." -Gould, Stephen J. The Panda's Thumb


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"The absence of fossil evidence for intermediary stages between major transitions in organic design, indeed our inability, even in our imagination, to construct functional intermediates in many cases, has been a persistent and nagging problem for gradualistic accounts of evolution." -Gould, Stephen J., "Is a New and General Theory of Evolution Emerging?,"


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"The history of most fossil species includes two features Particularly inconsistent with gradualism: first is stasis. Most species exhibit no directional changes during their tenure on earth. They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear; Morphological Change is limited and directionless. Second is sudden appearance. In any local area a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors. But rather appears all at once and fully formed." -Stephan J. Gould. "Evolutions Erratic Pace," National History,







hhheh...nobody is saying that the spork doesn't exist and that you don't think it is a transitional "FORM" between spoon and fork. What we are saying is that we need a gradual chain of links from spoon to fork showing the slow and gradual development of prongs along down through the links. Also you can't single out just a far left prong on the dinner fork, left prong on an olive fork, left prong on a salad fork, and left prong on the pastry fork, and then go "see they all of left prongs so that's proof they all are related and the spork is their common ancestor.





So by that logic anything with an eye (such as the octopus) must be a close common relative of humans? How does that work?


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And how many cells do bacteria have again? And what did I ask for to show me in the lab that it could happen?


So did you meet the basic request here?
. Taking Gould out of context is not evidence against evolution. Gould was speaking of punk eek . A change in anatomy that shows up in the geological record as species one turning into species two rapidly without intermediates . What really happens in that case is this. Species one meets an environmental challenge that selects strongly for the new trait . The species does have intermediates but the change happens so quickly that the intermediates are few . Fossilization is a rare phenomenon and a lineage with few members most likely won’t fossilize. You go on to claim this is a just-so story BUT we can see this in living species. For example Timema cristinae. Timemas are background mimics and the newer ones have a different color pattern . The old pattern on the newer plant food gets eaten ( timemas are insects) and the new pattern on the old plant food gets eaten because they’re highly visible . The intermediates get eaten . There aren’t many of them . These things are already showing mate preference. Wider and green with wider and green. Narrow and striped with narrow and striped . Eventually they will become 2 different species as they prefer the food that they mimic .
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Yes eyes do show a common homologous ancestry to answer your question . But you’re being dishonest and comparing 2 extremely distantly related organisms like octopuses and humans without taking that into consideration and showing more closely related organisms and their eyes
 
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A bunch of some bacteria do something called quorum sensing where they take on different functions depending on where they are in the bunch. Some will take on protective functions some reproduction some digestive etc . It’s not multicellularity but they sorta act like a multicellular organism with its specialized cells
 
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A bunch of some bacteria do something called quorum sensing where they take on different functions depending on where they are in the bunch. Some will take on protective functions some reproduction some digestive etc . It’s not multicellularity but they sorta act like a multicellular organism with its specialized cells

Slime molds are collections of individual protists, that do very much the same thing. Normally, they all just move about on their own, doing their own things. But when times get hard, they all flow together, form a stalk with a spore case, and produce spores that are released to possibly find a better environment.

Right at the border of single cell/multicell life.
 
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If I can show you that there's a scientific explanation for your "out of place fossil", will you admit that YE creationism is a fraud?

so you admit that we can also explain an out of place fossil by 100 my?
 
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And here you undermine your own beliefs, again. If we are descended from a single pair of humans (as we are) then our ancestors could have had, at most, four alleles for each gene locus.

Which means 6 possible combinations. But modern humans have dozens of alleles for most gene loci. All the rest had to come about by mutations.

And there you've effectively refuted your belief.

If we take the Bible at face value there are a number of things that can easily satisfy this alleged problem. This reminds me of people who claim the universe has to be old because...starlight. However I point out that the text says God caused the stars to shine upon the earth. They always scoff at this notion but for some reason tread right on past "And God said let there be light, and there was light." Meaning if God can speak a universe into existence I don't think He would be bound by the laws of physics like the speed of light. One must either (for the sake of argument) entertain everything that the text says, or reject it starting with Genesis 1:1 on. What you don't get to do is just pick and choose what "miracles" God could or could not possibly do.

God told the man and woman to be fruitful and multiply. He could have easily stocked there genetic make up to allow them to do just that and be able to produce a great variety of humans. This always spawns the question as to where the races came from? The possibility is that at the tower of Babel when God divided the tongues He caused people with similar genetic makeups to have the same languages and this caused the different features we observe grouped in what we call races to be predominant in those groups. However today we know from a biological stand point there really is no such thing as race.
 
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Nope. I'm shorter than my brother. Doesn't mean we aren't related.

Yes but being from a population that is less than "HALF" the size of the population of a different population that likely didn't inter breed, would reasonably raise some big questions. Your attempt at making light of this is very telling. When are you going to quit running from God friend?

Nope. He merely used existing organisms to make new kinds of organisms.

Except that's not what His word reveals He did. His word reveals that He made each individual kind and created them to only reproduce after their own kind. You can't have your cake and eat it to. You have to accept that the Bible says what it means and it means what it says. If it is found to conflict with known science I will be the first one to toss mine in the trash and never darken the doorway to another church. But I have found after 41 years of searching, God never fails or lets me down. I can trust His word and take it to mean exactly what it was intended to mean. I don't have to try and rescue it with some weird obscure rendering of the text that was never intended.
 
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The point is that supernatural creation is inherently an unfalsifiable position. The fact your response contains a number of non-demonstrable assumptions kind of proves the point.

I see... your wanting proof in the negative. Your right. I can't prove leprechauns don't exist with magical powers either. The only thing I can do is demonstrate that to date no evidence has been presented for the existence of leprechauns and therefore I have no logical reason to believe in them. If however just one leprechaun were to be found then this would of course change. Likewise I can't provide some scientific basis for falsifying special creation. However I can say that if we were to observe just one fact that cannot be logically explained apart from special creation, then everything changes. Again I have mentioned many.

Physicists tell us the laws of physics are fine tuned to the exact parameters necessary for life. Laws like electromagnetic force, nuclear intensity, mass of material, strength of gravity, temperature, excitation of nuclei, and speed of light. If any of these factors were out of proportion slightly then none of the elements (especially carbon so necessary for life) could even exist. British Astrophysicist George Ellis even comment on this and said:

"Amazing fine tuning occurs in all the laws that makes this possible." He added that he finds it difficult not to use the word miraculous when describing their complexity.​

We look at the arrangement of the systems of the universe. Like the way that our solar system is perfectly situated in a clear safe zone rather than one of our milky way's chaotic spiral arms. Coupled with the size of our sun. Scientists tell us our sun is quite small compared to the majority of the observable stars in the universe yet its the perfect size and temperature to support life. Our distance of 93 million miles from the sun. The perfect distance. Any closer we'd become a barren dry desert. Any further and we would be a frozen waste land. Couple this with our own moons size and distance from the earth. The perfect size and distance to stabilize our 23 degree axis tilt with the sun which of course forms our four seasons, without which their could be no food chain and again no life. Even the arrangement of our solar system with the gas giants out in the outer rim acting like giant vacuum sweepers sucking in rogue meteors and comets which otherwise threaten life here. Scientists tell us that if you just remove Jupiter from it's current orbit that the impact rate of meteors on earth would increase by a thousand times from what we see today. Coupled with the magnetic field around our planet, we live on the only known solid surface planet that's still circulating its liquid iron core. This generates our magnetic field which protects us from solar wind which otherwise would have long since stripped away our atmosphere and sterilized all life here. The mixture of nitrogen and oxygen in our atmosphere is the perfect mixture for life, plate tectonics, land to water mass ratio, I mean I could go on and on. There are literally hundreds of conditions which all have to exist and work together in unison just for life to even be possible. These systems all have to exist at the exact same time, at the exact perimeters, and the exact locations they exist. Famous physicist Arno Penzias (Nobel prize winner) said:
"Astronomy leads us to a unique event, a universe with the exact conditions required to permit life. One with, you might say, a supernatural plan."​

And then of course the DNA of all life contains a code that warps our most sophisticated computer software programs by comparison. A code that by my interpretations, is the signature of a creator Himself proclaiming, "THERE IS A GOD!"
 
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