OC Mosaic Priesthood cursed forever?

[LittleLambofJesus]

Is this curse on the OC Mosaic Jewish priesthood permanent?
Especially since the destruction of the Temple and Sanctuary in the 1st century?

Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.
Because you have rejected knowledge, I also will reject you from being Priest for Me; Because you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children.

3994 merah from 779;
an execration:--curse.

Malachi 2
1 “And now, O priests, this command is for you. 2 If you will not listen, if you will not take it to heart to give honor to my name, says the Lord of hosts, then I will send the curse<3994> upon you and I will curse your blessings.
Indeed, I have already cursed them, because you do not lay it to heart.
3 Behold, I will rebuke your offspring and spread dung on your faces, the dung of your offerings,
and you shall be taken away with it

7 For the lips of a Priest should guard knowledge, and people should seek instruction from his mouth, for he is the messenger of the Lord of hosts.
8 But you have turned aside from the way. You have caused many to stumble by your instruction. You have corrupted the covenant of Levi, says the Lord of hosts,
9 and so I make you despised and abased before all the people, inasmuch as you do not keep my ways but show partiality in your instruction.”
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Hebrews 7:12
For being changed/translated<3346> the Priesthood,
out of necessity also, of Law a change/translation<3331> is becoming,

Revelation 1:6
And makes us kings and priests to the God and Father Him. To Him the glory and the might into the ages of the ages. Amen.

Revelation 5:10
And Thou make them kings and priests to our God and we shall be reigning on the land.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

The Levitical priesthood is so over, but we are forever priests after the order of Melchizadek

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Malachi 2
1 “And now, O priests, this command is for you. 2 If you will not listen, if you will not take it to heart to give honor to my name, says the Lord of hosts, then I will send the curse<3994> upon you and I will curse your blessings.
Indeed, I have already cursed them, because you do not lay it to heart.
3 Behold, I will rebuke your offspring and spread dung on your faces, the dung of your offerings,
and you shall be taken away with it.
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Ezekiel 4:1 ‘And thou, son of man, take to thee a brick, and thou hast put it before thee, and hast graven on it a city — Jerusalem, 2 and hast placed against it a siege, and builded against it a fortification, and poured out against it a mount, and placed against it camps, yea, set thou against it battering-rams round about. 3 And thou, take to thee an iron pan, and thou hast made it a wall of iron between thee and the city; and thou hast prepared thy face against it, and it hath been in a siege, yea, thou hast laid siege against it. A sign it [is] to the house of Israel.

13 And Jehovah saith, ‘Thus do the sons of Israel eat their defiled bread among the nations whither I drive them.’ 14 And I say, ‘Ah, Lord Jehovah, lo, my soul is not defiled, and carcass, and torn thing, I have not eaten from my youth, even till now; nor come into my mouth hath abominable flesh.’ 15 And He saith unto me, ‘See, I have given to thee bullock’s dung instead of man’s dung, and thou hast made thy bread by it.’ 16 And He saith unto me, ‘Son of man, lo, I am breaking the staff of bread in Jerusalem, and they have eaten bread by weight and with fear; and water by measure and with astonishment, they do drink; 17 so that they lack bread and water, and have been astonished one with another, and been consumed in their iniquity.
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The Sadducees were of the sect of the Priesthood, and Jesus told them about the impending wrath coming in 70ad.

Matthew 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them, “Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the being about wrath ?
Matthew 23:33 “Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the judging of the Gehenna?
Luke 3:7 Then he said to the multitudes that came out to be baptized by him,
“Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the being about wrath?
Matthew 23:33 “Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the judging of the Gehenna?

Matthew 24:19
“But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those, the days!
Mark 13:17
“But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days!
Luke 21:
22 “For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 “But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people.
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Josephus described the horrible famine that occurred during the siege, including the Jews having to eat cow dung.........

The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD

.........The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover. At this season multitudes came up from all the surrounding country, and from distant parts, to keep the festival and the city was at this time crowded with Jewish strangers,...........

Meanwhile the horrors of famine grew still more melancholy and afflictive.
The Jews, for of food were at length compelled to eat their belts, their sandals, the skins of their shields, dried grass, and even the ordure of oxen. In the depth or this horrible extremity, a Jewess of noble family urged by the intolerable cravings of hunger, slew her infant child, and prepared it for a meal ; and had actually eaten one half thereof, when the soldiers, allured by tile smell of food, threatened her with instant death if she refused to discover it. 'Intimidated by this menace, she immediately produced the remains of her son, which petrified them with horror.............

For five days after the destruction of the Temple, the priests who had escaped, sat, pining with hunger, on the top of one of its broken walls; at length, they came down, and humbly asked the pardon of Titus, which, however, he refused to grant them, saying, that,
"as the Temple, for the sake of which he would have spared them, was destroyed, it was but fit that its priests should parish also:" -whereupon he commanded that they should be put to death. .........
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https://www.preteristarchive.com/JewishWars/timeline_military.html
"..probably the greatest single slaughter in ancient history."
ROMAN SIEGE AND SACK OF JERUSALEM
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[Gregory Thompson]

Oh wow, spread the dung you've been eating on your faces, pretty strong language.

 

[eleos1954]

Is this curse on the OC Mosaic Jewish priesthood permanent?
Especially since the destruction of the Temple and Sanctuary in the 1st century?

Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.
Because you have rejected knowledge, I also will reject you from being Priest for Me; Because you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children.

3994 merah from 779;
an execration:--curse.

Malachi 2
1 “And now, O priests, this command is for you. 2 If you will not listen, if you will not take it to heart to give honor to my name, says the Lord of hosts, then I will send the curse<3994> upon you and I will curse your blessings.
Indeed, I have already cursed them, because you do not lay it to heart.
3 Behold, I will rebuke your offspring and spread dung on your faces, the dung of your offerings,
and you shall be taken away with it

7 For the lips of a Priest should guard knowledge, and people should seek instruction from his mouth, for he is the messenger of the Lord of hosts.
8 But you have turned aside from the way. You have caused many to stumble by your instruction. You have corrupted the covenant of Levi, says the Lord of hosts,
9 and so I make you despised and abased before all the people, inasmuch as you do not keep my ways but show partiality in your instruction.”
====================================================
Hebrews 7:12
For being changed/translated<3346> the Priesthood,
out of necessity also, of Law a change/translation<3331> is becoming,

Revelation 1:6
And makes us kings and priests to the God and Father Him. To Him the glory and the might into the ages of the ages. Amen.

Revelation 5:10
And Thou make them kings and priests to our God and we shall be reigning on the land.

No longer a need for the Levitical priesthood ... our High Priest is Jesus and He is in the sanctuary/tabernacle in heaven.

Hebrews 4:14-16

14 Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven,[a] Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess.


Hebrews 9:11-10:12

11 But Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come, with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

No longer a need for the Levitical priesthood ... our High Priest is Jesus and He is in the sanctuary/tabernacle in heaven.

Hebrews 4:14-16
14 Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven,[a] Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess.
Hebrews 9:11-10:12
11 But Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come, with the greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation.

Thank you for post this.
Hosea 5:
1 "Listen to this, you priests! Listen, house of Israel, and give ear, house of the king!
For the judgment is against you; for you have been a snare at Mizpah, and a net spread on Tabor.
2 The rebels are deep in slaughter; but I discipline all of them.
3 I know Ephraim, and Israel is not hidden from me; for now, Ephraim, you have played the prostitute. Israel is defiled. 4 Their deeds won't allow them to turn to their God; for the spirit of prostitution is within them, and they don't know Yahweh.
5 The pride of Israel testifies to his face. Therefore Israel and Ephraim will stumble in their iniquity. Judah also will stumble with them. 6 They will go with their flocks and with their herds to seek Yahweh; but they won't find him. He has withdrawn himself from them. 7 They are unfaithful to Yahweh; for they have borne illegitimate children. Now the new moon will devour them with their fields.
8 "Blow the cornet in Gibeah, and the trumpet in Ramah! Sound a battle cry at Beth Aven, behind you, Benjamin!
9 Ephraim will become a desolation in the day of rebuke. Among the tribes of Israel, I have made known that which will surely be.
10 The princes of Judah are like those who remove a landmark. I will pour out my wrath on them like water. 11 Ephraim is oppressed, he is crushed in judgment; Because he is intent in his pursuit of idols.
12 Therefore I am to Ephraim like a moth, and to the house of Judah like rottenness. 13 "When Ephraim saw his sickness, and Judah his wound, Then Ephraim went to Assyria, and sent to king Jareb: but he is not able to heal you, neither will he cure you of your wound.
14 For I will be to Ephraim like a lion, and like a young lion to the house of Judah. I myself will tear in pieces and go away. I will carry off, and there will be no one to deliver.
15 I will go and return to my place, until they acknowledge their offense, and seek my face. In their affliction they will seek me earnestly."
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Wouldn't the "princes" in Hosea 2:10 be referring to the Jewish Rulers/Priest in 1st Century Jerusalem?

Matthew 3:7
But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them,
“Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the being about wrath<ὀργῆς<3709>?

Mat 26:3
Then the chief priests, the scribes, and the elders of the people assembled at the palace of the high priest, who was called Caiaphas,

Luke 21:23 “But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days!For there will be great Distress in the land and Wrath<3709> upon this people.

Zep 1:8
“And it shall be, In the day of the LORD's sacrifice,
That I will punish the princes and the king's children, And all such as are clothed with foreign apparel.
Zep 3:3
Her princes in her midst are roaring lions; Her judges are evening wolves
That leave not a bone till morning.

 

[eleos1954]

Thank you for post this.
Hosea 5:
1 "Listen to this, you priests! Listen, house of Israel, and give ear, house of the king!
For the judgment is against you; for you have been a snare at Mizpah, and a net spread on Tabor.
2 The rebels are deep in slaughter; but I discipline all of them.
3 I know Ephraim, and Israel is not hidden from me; for now, Ephraim, you have played the prostitute. Israel is defiled. 4 Their deeds won't allow them to turn to their God; for the spirit of prostitution is within them, and they don't know Yahweh.
5 The pride of Israel testifies to his face. Therefore Israel and Ephraim will stumble in their iniquity. Judah also will stumble with them. 6 They will go with their flocks and with their herds to seek Yahweh; but they won't find him. He has withdrawn himself from them. 7 They are unfaithful to Yahweh; for they have borne illegitimate children. Now the new moon will devour them with their fields.
8 "Blow the cornet in Gibeah, and the trumpet in Ramah! Sound a battle cry at Beth Aven, behind you, Benjamin!
9 Ephraim will become a desolation in the day of rebuke. Among the tribes of Israel, I have made known that which will surely be.
10 The princes of Judah are like those who remove a landmark. I will pour out my wrath on them like water. 11 Ephraim is oppressed, he is crushed in judgment; Because he is intent in his pursuit of idols.
12 Therefore I am to Ephraim like a moth, and to the house of Judah like rottenness. 13 "When Ephraim saw his sickness, and Judah his wound, Then Ephraim went to Assyria, and sent to king Jareb: but he is not able to heal you, neither will he cure you of your wound.
14 For I will be to Ephraim like a lion, and like a young lion to the house of Judah. I myself will tear in pieces and go away. I will carry off, and there will be no one to deliver.
15 I will go and return to my place, until they acknowledge their offense, and seek my face. In their affliction they will seek me earnestly."
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Wouldn't the "princes" in Hosea 2:10 be referring to the Jewish Rulers/Priest in 1st Century Jerusalem?

Matthew 3:7
But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said to them,
“Brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the being about wrath<ὀργῆς<3709>?

Mat 26:3
Then the chief priests, the scribes, and the elders of the people assembled at the palace of the high priest, who was called Caiaphas,

Luke 21:23 “But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days!For there will be great Distress in the land and Wrath<3709> upon this people.

Zep 1:8
“And it shall be, In the day of the LORD's sacrifice,
That I will punish the princes and the king's children, And all such as are clothed with foreign apparel.
Zep 3:3
Her princes in her midst are roaring lions; Her judges are evening wolves
That leave not a bone till morning.

The OP was this: Is the OC Levitical Priesthood cursed forever?

The ceremonial/sacrificial system ended was nailed to the cross. It is no longer needed because Jesus is our high priest in the sanctuary in heaven.

If one accepts cursed as (above) being eliminated (on earth) in regard specifically to the OT Levitical Priesthood/ceremonial system, then I guess one can express it in those terms. I do not like to express it that way because Jesus is our high priest in the sanctuary in heaven and His priesthood still exists and don't want people to loose sight of that and possibly think/say the priesthood does not exist there (in heaven) because it (the earthly system) was "cursed" possibly confusing it with the heavenly one.

"Wouldn't the "princes" in Hosea 2:10 be referring to the Jewish Rulers/Priest in 1st Century Jerusalem?"

I don't find a reference to "princes" in Hosea 2:10, so am assuming you mean Hosea 5:10

In chapter 5, Hosea the prophet speaks for the Lord unto the priests and unto the princes of Israel, unto the house of the king. So was speaking to both the princes and the priests.

From what I can find

Hosea began his prophetic activity during the reign of Jeroboam II (c. 786–746 bc). His prophetic announcements indicate that he was active until near the fall (721 bc) of the northern kingdom of Israel, the scene of his entire ministry.

Feel like maybe there is some other point(s) you are trying to get to? Not sure? Perhaps TMI (too much information) for me at once ;o)

God Bless.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

The OP was this: Is the OC Levitical Priesthood cursed forever?

The ceremonial/sacrificial system ended was nailed to the cross. It is no longer needed because Jesus is our high priest in the sanctuary in heaven.

If one accepts cursed as (above) being eliminated (on earth) in regard specifically to the OT Levitical Priesthood/ceremonial system, then I guess one can express it in those terms. I do not like to express it that way because Jesus is our high priest in the sanctuary in heaven and His priesthood still exists and don't want people to loose sight of that and possibly think/say the priesthood does not exist there (in heaven) because it (the earthly system) was "cursed" possibly confusing it with the heavenly one.

"Wouldn't the "princes" in Hosea 2:10 be referring to the Jewish Rulers/Priest in 1st Century Jerusalem?"

I don't find a reference to "princes" in Hosea 2:10, so am assuming you mean Hosea 5:10

In chapter 5, Hosea the prophet speaks for the Lord unto the priests and unto the princes of Israel, unto the house of the king. So was speaking to both the princes and the priests.

From what I can find

Hosea began his prophetic activity during the reign of Jeroboam II (c. 786–746 bc). His prophetic announcements indicate that he was active until near the fall (721 bc) of the northern kingdom of Israel, the scene of his entire ministry.

Feel like maybe there is some other point(s) you are trying to get to? Not sure? Perhaps TMI (too much information) for me at once ;o)
God Bless.

Thank for posting.
What is your and others view of this "Sanctuary and Court" in Revelation 11:1-2 [note that the word "Temple" #2411 is never used once in Revelation]
I can view it as 1st century Herod's Temple, Courts outside the Sanctuary which concerned the OC Priesthood [irregardless of the date Revelation was visioned or written].

Which Temple/Court/Sanctuary is shown in Revelation 11:1-2--Herod's Temple or Future?

Revelation 11:
1 And was given to me a reed like-as rod saying "rouse! and measure! the Sanctuary<3485> of the God and the Altar[Golden Altar] and those worshiping in it
2 and the Court/fold<833>[laver, altar of sacrifice/priests] outside of the Sanctuary, be casting-out!<1544> out-side<1854>, and no it thou should be measuring, that it was given to the nations
and the holy City they shall be treading forty two months.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

The Levitical priesthood is so over, but we are forever priests after the order of Melchizadek