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I Agree.Depends on how we define "millionaires." Someone here put out a list of preachers each with a net worth in the millions.
Have to be careful about "net worth." I knew some family farmers in Illionois with net worths in the millions, and they barely paid their bills and taxes. Their net worth was in their farmland and equipment.
I worked with a guy in DC who was a "net worth" millionaire because he still lived in the house in Old Town Alexandria that his family had owned for 150 years. But he was worried about losing the house because the taxes on it were too much for a mid-level Civil Service employee.
So "net worth" doesn't really tell you whether they've simply "built bigger barns." We need to see what they're actually passing down the chain.
But shouldn’t Christians be using extra income to help those in need? It’s not earning the money that is a problem, it is holding on to a lot of wealth that could be feeding or clothing someone in need.
That's good to hear. The thought of you running around naked while asking strangers to borrow their cell phone to post on CF seemed awkward.I don't think you know what forsaking means. If a brother needs to use my computer or phone or even my clothes than he can gladly have them. It's God property not mine. I'm still wondering what happened to some of my clothes and some blankets! It doesn't mean I'm naked in the woods
I voted yes only because Lee made your list. Proves only a remnant is righteous.According to Google:
1. Pat Robertson, Networth: 100 Million.
2. Billy Graham, Networth when he died: 25 Million.
3. T.D. Jakes, Networth: 147 Million.
4. Kenneth Copeland, Networth: Although Celebrity Net Worth reported his worth at $300 million, other reports say Copeland could be worth $750 million or more.
5. Joel Olsteen, Networth: 55 Million.
6. Benny Hinn, Networth: 42 Million.
7. Joyce Meyer, Networth: 8 Million.
8. Joseph Prince, Networth: 5 Million.
9. Rick Warren, Networth: 25 Million.
10. Lee Strobel, Networth: 8 Million.
Best re-read vs 17-19 a few more times and slowly. The rich are among the saved too if they conduct themselves according to the Gospel. Not everyone who is rich has sought to become rich. And those that are rich are specifically addressed both in these passages you cite as well as elsewhere in the Scriptures. See James 1:10-11...here we see that the rich fade from their worldly glory.According to Google: Max Lucado's networth is 10 million. How do you think he became a millionaire? Does the Bible want us to be rich? I don't believe so. Please read 1 Timothy 6 several times in prayer if you are in doubt about that.
And if someone who is a millionaire can offer sound financial advice, then sure, I'm willing to listen to them.
Should we take advice from Christians who are millionaires?
According to Google: Max Lucado's networth is 10 million.
How do you think he became a millionaire?
Does the Bible want us to be rich? I don't believe so.
My guess is that he did not hoard that wealth and he helped others with what he had. But again, Abraham is not a part of the New Covenant.
That's good to hear. The thought of you running around naked while asking strangers to borrow their cell phone to post on CF seemed awkward.
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This appears to be a collection of misinformation posted for the purpose of smearing these ministers/ministries.
<J0>According to Google:
1. Pat Robertson, Networth: 100 Million.
2. Billy Graham, Networth when he died: 25 Million.
3. T.D. Jakes, Networth: 147 Million.
4. Kenneth Copeland, Networth: Although Celebrity Net Worth reported his worth at $300 million, other reports say Copeland could be worth $750 million or more.
5. Joel Olsteen, Networth: 55 Million.
6. Benny Hinn, Networth: 42 Million.
7. Joyce Meyer, Networth: 8 Million.
8. Joseph Prince, Networth: 5 Million.
9. Rick Warren, Networth: 25 Million.
10. Lee Strobel, Networth: 8 Million.<J0>
This appears to be a collection of misinformation posted for the purpose of smearing these ministers/ministries.
See e.g.
He [Rick Warren] and his wife consider themselves “reverse tithers.” They live on 10 percent of their income and donate the rest to charity.
“I drive a 12-year-old Ford, have lived in the same house for the last 22 years, bought my watch at Wal-Mart, and I don’t own a boat or a jet,” Warren once said of his lifestyle in a media interview.
Read more at 8 Richest Pastors in America
I would not take spiritual advice from anyone who feel they can judge another's spiritual status knowing only their net worth. As if they themselves paid from thier own salvation with money given or monies they refused to receive.
To think you are better off than another solely by the comparison of bank accounts is a very dangerous notion.....one who does this is the servant of mammon.
Should we take advice from Christians who are millionaires?
Best re-read vs 17-19 a few more times and slowly. The rich are among the saved too if they conduct themselves according to the Gospel.
You said:Not everyone who is rich has sought to become rich. And those that are rich are specifically addressed both in these passages you cite as well as elsewhere in the Scriptures.
You said:See James 1:10-11...here we see that the rich fade from their worldly glory.
You sound envious and spiteful and judgemental rather than full of mercy and pity for those among the rich who are not yet in line with the Scripture.
You said:James says Have mercy for mercy triumphs over judgement...and...judgement without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. (James 2:13 paraphrase)