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WHERE DOES IT SAY GOD'S SABBATH IS ABOLSIHED AND WE ARE COMMANDED TO KEEP SUNDAY AS A HOLY DAY?

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He can't discuss the issue because he doesn't know. He's relying on what he's been told without researching the issue for himself.

Only sent in love brother but your post has no truth in it. I have provided God's WORD and it disagrees with you. You have not provided a single scripture inside of God's WORD or outside that supports the NEW MOON SABBATH theory.

Now let's be honest here. You have no scripture do you and you have provided none. Please show from scripture or elsewhere that at the start of every new MOON is a SEVENTH DAY SABBATH and the weekly cycle which is continuous changes the days in the week?

also...

If the NEW MOON was created on the 4th Day of the creation week *GENESIS 1:14-19 and the God's SABBATH was created on the SEVENTH DAY of the creation week how can the SABBATH start on a NEW MOON?

Only God's WORD is true brother and we should believe and follow it *ROMANS 3:4

Sorry brother God's WORD disagrees with you.

This only further shows that your promoting a false teaching brother

You can read more about the Luna Sabbath false teaching here click me; and here click me; and here click me; and here click me.

*Biblical Sabbath here click me (wiki)


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Just stare at your papal calendar and note the Roman name of the day that each month starts on.

January starts on a Tuesday.
February starts on a Friday.
March starts on a Friday.
April starts on a Monday.

Whereas as a Lunar calendar each month is below.

January starts on a Sunday.
February starts on a Sunday.
March starts on a Sunday.
April starts on a Sunday.
So when they went under the lunar calendar, at the end of each month, or start of the next, it would always be reset back to starting on Sunday...? Do I have that right...? Therefore making the actual days different, and is why they are different, or what...?

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God Bless!
 
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So when they went under the lunar calendar, at the end of each month, or start of the next, it would always be reset back to starting on Sunday...? Do I have that right...? Therefore making the actual days different, and is why they are different, or what...?

Thanks,

God Bless!

No brother it only started the NEW month in the Hebrew calander not the changing of the day which is a continual weekly 7 day cycle. Take a look at some of the links provided. This is what I have been trying to point out from the start with the NEW MOON SABBATH claims.
 
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All you have to do is read GENESIS 1 and GENENSIS 2 to see that the NEW MOON SABBATH claim is a false one.

If the NEW MOON was created on the 4th Day of the creation week *GENESIS 1:14-19 and the God's SABBATH was created on the SEVENTH DAY *GENESIS 2:1-3 of the creation week how can the SABBATH start on a NEW MOON?

It would also have to reset the weekly seven day cycle which is continuous every NEW MOON which it does not. The NEW MOON Sabbath is a false teaching not supported by God's WORD.
 
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No brother it only started the NEW month in the Hebrew calander not the changing of the day which is a continual weekly 7 day cycle. Take a look at some of the links provided.
I'm understanding and seeing where you are coming from LGW, but I'd like to be sure on this issue, to see if I was wrong about it before, or not...?

And I'd like to hear some others points of view on this, and hopefully someone will come up with solid proof either way...

God Bless!
 
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I'm understanding where you are coming from LGW, but I'd like to be sure on this issue, to see if I was wrong about it before, or not...?

And I'd like to hear some others points of view on this, and hopefully someone will come up with solid proof either way...

God Bless!

No problem brother. May I suggest. God wants to be your guide and teacher *JOHN 14:26; 16:13; 8:31-36. This is the NEW COVANANT promise given to God's people in HEBREWS 8:11. Pray about it brother asking JESUS to be your teacher as he promises to. Then go and research it yourself asking God' to guide you. Claim and believe his promises to you and seek his truth for yourself.

God bless
 
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Way I understand it right now, is the luna or lunar calendar had basically 28 day months (exactly 4 weeks) (no change in days month to month) with a monthly Sabbath day at the end of the month making up the 29th day, called an eighth day, that was exempt or excluded from the otherwise normal days or weeks, then there would be no need to reset it, because it would just naturally always start or the months would all start on a Sunday... Anyway, Does any of that or any of this make any of the Sabbaths different or to fall on different days or not...? Or is LGW right maybe (about this anyway)...?

But, I would remind you LGW that, in post #1068, where I quoted a post where you said they (the Sabbath(s)) were not or did not fall literally on the same literal Sabbath on our calendar as it does on the luna calendar or calendar the Hebrews used or whatever, even saying or exclaiming "Of course not"...

God Bless!
 
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No problem brother. May I suggest. God wants to be your guide and teacher *JOHN 14:26; 16:13; 8:31-36. This is the NEW COVANANT promise given to God's people in HEBREWS 8:11. Pray about it brother asking JESUS to be your teacher as he promises to. Then go and research it yourself asking God' to guide you. Claim and believe his promises to you and seek his truth for yourself.

God bless
Thanks LGW.

God Bless!
 
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So when they went under the lunar calendar, at the end of each month, or start of the next, it would always be reset back to starting on Sunday...? Do I have that right...? Therefore making the actual days different, and is why they are different, or what...?

Thanks,

God Bless!
Hole in one, the start of any month under a lunar calendar is always Sunday.

Start of any month under the papal calendar is not a set day.
 
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Way I understand it right now, is the luna or lunar calendar had basically 28 day months (exactly 4 weeks) (no change in days month to month) with a monthly Sabbath day at the end of the month making up the 29th day, called an eighth day, that was exempt or excluded from the otherwise normal days or weeks, then there would be no need to reset it, because it would just naturally always start or the months would all start on a Sunday... Anyway, Does any of that or any of this make any of the Sabbaths different or to fall on different days or not...? Or is LGW right maybe (about this anyway)...?

But, I would remind you LGW that, in post #1068, where I quoted a post where you said they (the Sabbath(s)) were not or did not fall literally on the same literal Sabbath on our calendar as it does on the luna calendar or calendar the Hebrews used or whatever, even saying or exclaiming "Of course not"...

God Bless!
Lunar months have thirty days.
 
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Start of any month under the papal calendar is not a set day.
Is that only due to just the days in a month (being different), and does not change the weeks or days of the week, or not...?

God Bless!
 
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Lunar months have thirty days.
So...? What does that mean...? Am I using the wrong term by using the term "lunar calendar" maybe...? How many days in each month did the calendar the Hebrews went by have...?

Isn't a woman'c cycle 28 days...? Or do I have that wrong...?

Oh and we have to include that eighth day of the last week of the month, so, 29... That's very close to thirty...

God Bless!
 
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Did you have a look at the link provided brother on the Hebrew Calander from wiki? The Hebrew calander day names are not the same our calander day names that have their origin from paganism. The Hebrew calander names the days after GENESIS. That is day 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (preparation) and 7 (Sabbath). Monday to Sunday are days called after pagan Gods.

However the weekly 7 day cycle is still the same ans still a continuous cycle throughout the year under both calanders and does not effect the SABBATH which is every SEVENTH DAY according to God's WORD *GENESIS 2:1-3; EXODUS 20:8-11.

The Hebrew calander is based in the Luna cycle (Moon) while our calander is based on the Sola (Sun) the yearly day totals are different. The Luna being aroung 354 and Sola 365.

If your asking if the SABBATH days is still the same? Of course it is. There is no such thing as a NEW MOON Sabbath. God's SABBATH is every SEVENTH DAY of the WEEK. In both HEBREW (Luna) and our Calander (Sola) God's SEVENTH DAY Sabbath is always the SEVENTH day of the weekly cycle. That starts from Friday sunset to Saturday sunset our calander time.

God bless.
A new moon was a day of rest just like the Sabbath. The Biblical Sabbath falls on the seventh day after the new moon. Notice I did not say 'Saturday', keep your Roman day names and your papal calendar. I will stick with the Biblical lunar calendar.
 
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A new moon was a day of rest just like the Sabbath. The Biblical Sabbath falls on the seventh day after the new moon. Notice I did not say 'Saturday', keep your Roman day names and your papal calendar. I will stick with the Biblical lunar calendar.
I was figuring you'd know what I meant, whatever they were or are called makes no difference to me, I just want to know if they are the same or not, more specifically, about the Sabbath being the same, or not...?

God Bless!
 
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A new moon was a day of rest just like the Sabbath. The Biblical Sabbath falls on the seventh day after the new moon. Notice I did not say 'Saturday', keep your Roman day names and your papal calendar. I will stick with the Biblical lunar calendar.
Sorry just realized that wasn't directed at me, my bad, sorry...

God Bless!
 
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A new moon was a day of rest just like the Sabbath. The Biblical Sabbath falls on the seventh day after the new moon. Notice I did not say 'Saturday', keep your Roman day names and your papal calendar. I will stick with the Biblical lunar calendar.

Firstly the Hebrew calander has 29.5 days. The NEW MOON is NOT God's SEVENTH DAY WEEKLY Sabbath of God's 4th commandment and never has been. The weekly cycle was never reset to Sunday or any other day on a NEW MOON because the weekly cycle is a 7 day continuous cycle. Please provide your scripture or state your source that says that God's SEVENTH DAY WEEKLY Sabbath starts seven days after the NEW MOON. If you have no Scripture or source why are you saying and teaching things that are not biblical and have no basis in scripture or fact? The NEW MOON was to start the beginning of the NEW MONTH not a new week. Get your facts right brother.
 
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I think I know how we can test this maybe...?

What if we took a year from each calendar, and take ones that both start on the same day at the beginning of the year(s) say, Sunday, since that would be appropriate, then lets track and follow the days and weeks on both over a year, and see if and they are the same or not maybe...?

Now, Anyone happen to know what the outcome of that will be maybe possibly...? (cause I don't, not yet)...?

Then check the following or the beginnings of the next years after that too, and maybe we will be able to see and tell and test this for sure... See if there are any discrepencies maybe...?

God Bless!
 
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Firstly the Hebrew calander has 29.5 days. The NEW MOON is NOT God's SEVENTH DAY WEEKLY Sabbath of God's 4th commandment and never has been. The weekly cycle was never reset to Sunday or any other day on a NEW MOON because the weekly cycle is a 7 day continuous cycle. Please provide your scripture or state your source that says that God's SEVENTH DAY WEEKLY Sabbath starts seven days after the NEW MOON. If you have no Scripture or source why are you saying and teaching things that are not biblical and have no basis in scripture or fact? The NEW MOON was to start the beginning of the NEW MONTH not a new week. Get your facts right brother.
You got the papal calendar, wrong calendar.
 
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I think I know how we can test this maybe...?

What if we took a year from each calendar, and take ones that both start on the same day at the beginning of the year(s) say, Sunday, since that would be appropriate, then lets track and follow the days and weeks on both over a year, and see if and they are the same or not maybe...?

Now, Anyone happen to know what the outcome of that will be maybe possibly...? (cause I don't, not yet)...?

Then check the following or the beginnings of the next years after that too, and maybe we will be able to see and tell and test this for sure... See if there are any discrepencies maybe...?

God Bless!

Hello Neogaia777, take a look at the links already provided. They are from wiki, Judaism 101 and Israel Science and Technology. The NEW MOON is NOT God's SEVENTH DAY WEEKLY Sabbath of God's 4th commandment and never has been. The weekly cycle was never reset to Sunday or any other day on a NEW MOON because the weekly cycle is a 7 day continuous cycle. The NEW MOON was to start the beginning of the NEW MONTH not a new week.

God bless.

Links below..

HEBREW calander (linked here; and here) From one year to the next it will throw out the FEAST DAYS to different dates linked and days from the previous year.

More info here click me
 
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You got the papal calendar, wrong calendar.

Not at all read the post you are quoting from.

The NEW MOON is NOT God's SEVENTH DAY WEEKLY Sabbath of God's 4th commandment and never has been the same as it is not the resetting of a new week. The weekly cycle was never reset to Sunday or any other day on a NEW MOON because the weekly cycle is a 7 day continuous cycle.

Please provide your scripture or state your source that says that God's SEVENTH DAY WEEKLY Sabbath starts seven days after the NEW MOON. If you have no Scripture or source why are you saying and teaching things that are not biblical and have no basis in scripture or fact? The NEW MOON was to start the beginning of the NEW MONTH not a new week. Get your facts right brother.
Where are your scriptures and sources for your claim that the weekly cycle is reset every NEW MOON.

I have provided both scripture and outside sources that all disagree with your claims. You have only provided your words, no scripture or supporting references.

Only sent in love and as a help to you brother.
 
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