WHERE DOES IT SAY GOD'S SABBATH IS ABOLSIHED AND WE ARE COMMANDED TO KEEP SUNDAY AS A HOLY DAY?

[LoveGodsWord]

strawman

Yep so don't do it. Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it. Do you have any scripture to share?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

my position is that you are using a straw man argument and I have yet to reveal what my position is regarding the Sabbath. The OP is based on a straw man argument whether you accept it or not. your challenge is to change the language of the OP before I will engage it.

My position is that you are trying to use a strawman argument because you have no scripture to share for your position.

Your making broard general claims for all of those who go to Church on Sunday that simply is not true. In my experience sharing God's WORD throughout my time there are many who genuinely teach and think God's 4th commandment is not binding on Christians or is abolished so your claims here are simply not true.

I am not making an argument against someone but simply providing the word of GOD in MATTHEW 15:3-9 and asking the questions where is the scripture for this tradition that has lead many to break God's 4th commandment. Your trying to make an argument against the OP and God's WORD that is not true.

It those teaching against God's 4th commandment that are making strawman arguments against God's Word. God's 4th commandment which is one of Gods 10 Commandments give us the KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is when broken *ROMANS 3:4; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4. JAMES says that if we break any one of God's 10 commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN

God's WORD says all those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23. OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50.

If you do not have scripture for your position then we should consider carefully why follow man made traditions over the WORD of GOD? Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it. *ROMANS 3:4

God bless.

 

[Saint Steven]

Read the verse very carefully.
"...things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ." (NASB)
The word "estin" in the Greek is a present tense verb correctly translated as "are." Therefore "are" indicates they ARE a shadow of things to come which indicates that they are still in existence and continuing to be practiced by these believers. Paul did not write "things which WERE a shadow of things to come." Paul is not stating don't practice them. He is stating don't let anyone judge you - as you are practicing these things. Evidently, the Colossian believers distinguished between clean/unclean foods, observed the Jewish religious festivals, New Moons and kept the Jewish Sabbath. If this be true, the question is why don't believers do the same today?

"Are"? Are what? Are a shadow.
As compared to the "reality". Would you like to define that for us too?
Jesus said it best.

Matthew 23:24
You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.

 

[Pavel Mosko]

Hebrew especially is a different language than Greek or English. Hebrew is more a language of pictorial expression than a language of "word nuance". It's sort of like sign language. The words give you pictures. We might say "annoyed", "angry" or "wrath". In Hebrew, the base of that concept is literally "snorting nostril". Now is it a "big snorting nostril" or a "little snorting nostril". This is what make Hebrew very interesting and almost easier than Greek to translate.

I don't know anything about sign language, but I really got a lot out of some of the background talks of my language professor. I actually tend to think of Hebrew as Martian. We as general western raised Christians have some familiarity with Hebrew and Jewish stuff around the Bible. But there is a lot of things that are extremely weird and alien. Just think of this thread and imagine what is going to happen when Easter/Pascha rolls around...

(I am assuming you are on the same page with me and most of Christianity in accepting the general Friday afternoon burial of Jesus taking place around in between 3 to 5 pm, and his Resurrection taking place just before sunrise of Sunday morning maybe just before 6 am).

The whole background around that coming from the weird counter intuitive Jewish custom of "Inclusive Reckoning" will I'm sure set this guy off with a thread how this is a "pagan teaching" etc. and if or when he does I will be ready!

 

[DamianWarS]

Yep so don't do it. Only God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it. Do you have any scripture to share?

Colossians 3:9 Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices

aka no straw men

 

[DamianWarS]

My position is that you are trying to use a strawman argument because you have no scripture to share for your position.

I have no scripture for it because it is a straw man. a straw man argument is something that by design will fail, I'm just simply recognizing it and calling it out. So there is no scripture about the 4th commandment being abolished and there is no scripture about a commandment to keep Sunday so how can I give scripture when there is no scripture? But so what, why would I even want to find scripture for something I make no claims toward? Your challenge to find scripture for this is for a position that no one actually holds and you're using this as a way to prop up your own position which makes no sense.

It's like saying to prove that a house is red when the whole time it's green and no one is actually saying it's green, then claiming you win because it can't be proven it's red... what exactly did you win? that it's not red which we all agreed to begin with? We all agree the 4th commandment is not abolish and that there is no commandment to keep Sunday scripturally speaking but that doesn't mean everyone believes in observing the Sabbath day the same way and that they don't have scripture to support their belief. So stop asking to find scripture for something no one actually accepts and start asking questions about what people actually claim.

 

[Pavel Mosko]

This is why (in context of current thread) there's 2 sets of Sabbaths. There's an OT set of sabbaths and there's a NT set of sabbaths. The OT sabbath was a day of physical non labor. That was a picture of the NT sabbath to come. This is why when people say "Christ is my sabbath." That is not theologically wrong either. Even tough I don't think the Scripture ever technically calls Jesus "our sabbath" but it does call him our "rest". Again, another example of theological hermeneutics.

If I was running a Bible class I would explain it based on typologies and literary tropes and how those things reveal the Economy of God as far as his will and nature.

In particular I would look at the New Wine skin parable, the incident of the people lamenting over the second temple (because on the surface it wasn't as good as Solomon's temple) but God promising "the Glory of it will be greater" than the previous temple. Would relate that passage to Jesus and Paul's church analogies (the ones that imply a building, especially a temple). Some where in there I try to work in promises to Abraham that implied that he would be the father of many nations and other OT prophecies about the gentiles coming into the kingdom of God.


In general there is a problem that is necessitated. It remind me of that one rule in physics "that an effect cannot be greater than it cause". Which is kind of why, there needed to be a new wine skin. Because trying to have Judaism swallow the entire world and make it Jewish is problematic on many different levels. It's very tough for a little remnant to do that. It's like a cat trying to swallow an elephant. And of course Paul pretty much suggests that one of the big reasons for the Law was a kind of foil to show the need for Christ. So definitely some of those burdens should have been loosed.

But in all honesty if you consider the nature of God this thread is absurd. I'm talking about God being self existent, which is something that is suppose to be implied in some of Akkadian roots that Yahew was derived from. Yahew is beyond time, he created time and is not subject to it. The fact that the OP makes this so important to Him actually denigrates him, it implies that he is waiting around like a pagan god and needing the mortals to worship him on Saturday at the right time and place. A being that is omnipresent (seeing all things at once) and beyond time, living in the eternal now does not act this way!

 

[Pavel Mosko]

The other two volumes are dictionaries. And of course they are as helpful as the dictionary is accurately translated. Yet, not even really knowing the language well, we have a way to check these definitions. Comparing the Scripture to itself to develop a general definition of what the word we're studying means. This is why I don't go to secular definitions per-say of "in Greek this word could have meaning X, Y, Z or F if A and B apply." The outside sources may or may not have valid standing. What does the Scripture's own internal definitions convey? We know we got that right when its theologically sound to the main theme of Scripture itself. Keeping in mind of course that the entire book is about the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. Everywhere in this book - is somehow related to Jesus.

I do Lexicon stuff myself. I like to call it "concept validity testing" (a term I borrowed from experimental and cognitive psychology), and well I use it for dealing with many dubious teachings in the Charismatic movement.

 

[Pavel Mosko]

The other thing I do in regards to Bible study is historical research; which with the Internet, that is much easier than it would have been say 50 years ago. (God has given us a tremendous gift with the Internet.) I do research on historical context because there is some value in it - although it is not the be all and end all of understanding the Scripture either.

Yes I'm really big into that myself. Early Church stuff AD 1-500 especially, and Judaica. Recently I got into Heiser and you might be interested in him too if you ever get the time, then you might consider checking out the two videos below. (The Gnostic one is long but worth it if you got the time!)

 

[ace of hearts]

If you do not have scripture for your position then we should consider carefully why follow man made traditions over the WORD of GOD? Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it. *ROMANS 3:4

Is this a lie or truth -

1 Tim 1:7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;

9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

Or this -

Gal 5 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.

3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.

4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.

6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

7 Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth?

8 This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you.

9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

10 I have confidence in you through the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded: but he that troubleth you shall bear his judgment, whosoever he be.

11 And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased.

12 I would they were even cut off which trouble you.

13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

 

[ace of hearts]

Not at all brother Colossians 2:16 is not talking about the weekly sabbath it is talking about the ceremonial sabbaths connected to the annual feasts.

Lev 23 clearly says the sabbath is as feast day.

 

[The Righterzpen]

I don't know anything about sign language, but I really got a lot out of some of the background talks of my language professor. I actually tend to think of Hebrew as Martian. We as general western raised Christians have some familiarity with Hebrew and Jewish stuff around the Bible. But there is a lot of things that are extremely weird and alien. Just think of this thread and imagine what is going to happen when Easter/Pascha rolls around...

(I am assuming you are on the same page with me and most of Christianity in accepting the general Friday afternoon burial of Jesus taking place around in between 3 to 5 pm, and his Resurrection taking place just before sunrise of Sunday morning maybe just before 6 am).

The whole background around that coming from the weird counter intuitive Jewish custom of "Inclusive Reckoning" will I'm sure set this guy off with a thread how this is a "pagan teaching" etc. and if or when he does I will be ready!

Pavel - I had to go look up what "inclusive reckoning" is, (LOL) but as soon as I saw the "Jesus crucified on Wednesday" phrase, I knew what it was. I'd just never heard the term before; or if I had, wasn't recognizing it.

Yes, I do see it as Scriptural that Jesus was crucified on Friday. There are not two Passovers. He died in 33 AD, was born in 7 BC, which would have made him 6 months shy of turning 40 years old. He rose from the dead on Sunday; before dawn, and I believe it was probably about 3 AM.

Now beware - I'm about to hit you with a lot of historical information! LOL - I do a lot of research; so if I start randomly spitting out historical facts, please pardon my "need" to do so. LOL

Now as for the time Jesus rose from the dead. I've come to that conclusion based on a bit of conjecture that it seems most reasonable to me that there would have only been 2 soldiers posted to a watch at a time and Scripturally it seems that there were more than two soldiers who reported seeing the angel. So my conjecture here is that He rose from the dead at 3 AM, which would have been the change of the watch and 4 soldiers would have been present at the time.

Now I may be wrong that there were only 2 posted to a watch, but it seems pretty obvious to me that there were more than two who reported what happened. It also seems reasonable to me that Pontius Pilate would have come at some point to inspect the tomb; but that is not recorded in Scripture for us.

Looking at historically what happened in the couple of years following the crucifixion, I believe Pilate knew Jesus rose from the dead. Eastern Orthodox venerate Pilate as a saint and believe that he became a believer; which I think is entirely possible. I also think Jesus's resurrection had a major impact on the Roman army.

I also study a lot of military stuff, so yes I probably know more than any one person should about armies of the past. LOL (I'm a veteran myself - with is probably part of my "military obsession".

Anyways, a "mysterious" religion (Mithraism) appeared rather suddenly in the Roman army, starting in the east. Prior to this most Roman soldiers were "Martian" in religion, seeing how Mars was the god of war and symbolic father to all these soldiers. Military bases had temples to Mars in them and this would have been true of the Antonia Fortress also.

Today, what most everyone thinks is the "temple mount" isn't. That's really the remains of the Antonia Fortress. The temple was south of the Antonia Fortress in the City of David. Jesus was crucified on the Mount of Olives and we know this, because the Scriptures say the Roman soldiers saw the veil of the temple being torn and the only way they would have been able to witness this, is if they were east of the temple.

Well, east of the temple is the Mount of Olives. And the crucifixion would have taken place in some proximity of where the Red Heifer alter was. The Romans called the area Calvery. The Jews called it Golgotha. Both mean the same thing "place of the skull" and the reason it was called that is it literally means "place of the counting heads". Calvery was the place where the Romans would take the census of who was coming into Jerusalem for the Passover. And so as a strategy to deter riots, this was also the place where they crucified people. So yes, the crucifixion would have been near a very major thoroughfare going into the city.

So, very early understanding of Mithraism (this Roman soldier religion); there is not much known about it. It has no surviving theological texts. Some latter archeological evidence emerged as to what it became; but initially, no one is really sure what it was or why it originated where it had or at the point it had.

"Mithra" was the ancient Persian "sun god" of an extinct Persian religion. And of early Mithraism, the only thing they know is soldiers met in basements with no windows, participated in ritual baths and shared meals together.

Now my hypothesis there is that these early "Mithrains" were actually Christian soldiers and they used a code word of this extinct pagan religion to avoid persecution, because in the early days of Christianity it was illegal for soldiers to be Christians. And my hypothesis that there are no "Mithraic" texts is because civilian apostles or preachers would bring the Scriptures with them to read to these soldiers and leave with the texts. Also, Mithraism "mysteriously" disappears in the 4th century, which is when Christianity became legalized in the Roman empire.

So there is some of my historical piecing together of how Jesus impacted the Roman military.

Now the 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth?

Scripture actually gives us the answer.

First off - "6 days before the Passover" it says Mary (Lazarus's sister) anoints Jesus's feet. This would have happened the Thursday after sundown prior to the entry into Jerusalem. That day is technically Friday. This goes back to the book of Daniel that talks about "7 days of tribulation" (i.e. the "great tribulation"). Jesus says in Matthew 24 that the tribulation will be cut short for if it is not; no flesh would be saved. (When was salvation secured? It was secured at the cross.) Hold that thought, I will come back to it.

The next event we have is an anonymous woman pouring oil over Jesus's head as He's eating dinner in Bethany. He was at the house of Simon the Leper. This occurs the last day he preached in the temple. This would have been Tuesday He left the temple, after sundown we are now into Wednesday. Jesus stats that "She's done this for my burial." Exactly 3 days and 3 nights later; Jesus is dead. (There's your "3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth.) That's language talking about the atonement.

Another nugget the Scripture gives us; just after Jesus leaves the temple that Tuesday. He states "now is the judgement of the world, now is the prince of this world cast out". (I believe it's in John.) There is some thunderous manifestation that people in the area hear.) Move over to Revelation. This is where Satan is cast out of heaven. This is where the atonement for sin has commenced.

Wednesday night (into Thursday) Jesus washes the disciples feet. The rest of that night, He spends explaining to them what is going to happen to Him.

Thursday they prepare for the Passover. Thursday night they eat the Passover. Jesus now being the 1st born of God (go back to Exodus and the angel of death comes through the land at midnight to kill the 1st born. Where is Jesus at midnight? He's in Gethsemane. What is a gethsemane? A gethsemane is a cave that housed an olive press. What happens to Jesus while he's in this cave? An angel comes. Who is this angel? This angle is actually the angel of death. What does the angel of death do to Jesus. He removes the breath of life (that makes you a living soul) which condemns Jesus's soul to hades. What does Jesus's soul do in hades? He preaches to those in captivity.

Jesus though is still alive. Why is He still alive? Because He has a Divine nature. The angle of death shortens the tribulation, because if he hadn't, no flesh would be saved. What is happening to Jesus? He is enduring the wrath of God. He is being forsaken by the other two persons of the Godhead. Jeremiah tells us that the wrath of God causes men to go insane. And this is why I believe Jesus's soul was severed from the rest of His personhood to avoid him going insane. Note that after this event in Gethsemane, Jesus goes through the rest of the ordeal with no emotion. He's cognizant. He speaks to Pilate and interacts with people in the environment but he has no emotion. This is because His soul is now in hades. This is the "cutting short" of the tribulation.

Jesus dies sometime about 3 PM and is buried. His spirit and soul ascend to heaven to stand before the Father to open the scrolls (Revelation) With Him when His soul leaves hades, He takes the souls of all the redeemed with Him. These are the people in Revelation that are standing before the throne that have "come out of great tribulation". Now those of us believers who die after the resurrection, are no longer reserved in hades because we go strait to heaven.

His body rests in the tomb on the Sabbath. This the old testament sabbath has fulfilled the purpose it was intended for. This is why Jesus says the sabbath was made for man and particularly for the son of man; and this is why Jesus is "Lord of the Sabbath". And why he told the Pharisees what he told them when the disciples were eating grain on the sabbath.

Jesus rises from the dead on Sunday morning. Ephesians 1 tells us this begins His reign as King. Go back to Revelation. When does the "millennial reign" begin? It began at the resurrection.

Last bit of info I'll give you - gotta get my kid ready for school. The 1000 in "thousand years" is in the plural. it's not "1 thousand years" it's a multiple of 1000 years. 2033 AD will be exactly 2000 years after the crucifixion. Will that be a significant time in human history (i.e. - the end of time) We'll see what happens!

 

[ace of hearts]

Hello brother Neogaia777, some comments for your consideration below.

Brother the issue is not weather you go to Church on Sunday, Monday Tuesday or Wednesday. The issue is over SIN and KNOWINGLY breaking any one of God's 10 commandments. As shown through this OP in the NEW COVENANT God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTOUESNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

Why do you post this and your statement below about unrepentant sin? I take take it as double speak. Double speak is known as saying something from one side of your mouth and contradicting it with the other side of your mouth.

God's 4th Commandment is one of the 10 commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is when broken. God's WORD says that if we break any one of God's 10 commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN *JAMES 2:10-11.

All those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23. OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50.


This part of your post is confusing brother. Not sure what your trying to say here did you wish to explain it further?


There is nothing impossible to those who BELEIVE and FOLLOW God's WORD *MARK 9:23.
All who wish to follow God's WORD and are working on the Sabbath God can help you and find you work if you trust in him *MATTHEW 6:33-34

1 CORINTHIANS 10:13 There has no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that you are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that you may be able to bear it.

God bless.

 

[ace of hearts]

The Law of Moses is the book of the Covenant written by the hand of Moses.

Handwriting of ordinances-Exodus 34:27; Nehemiah 9:13,14; 2 Chronicles 33:8; Exodus 18:20; Leviticus 18:4; 2 Kings 17:34,35,37,38

Law of moses-Joshua 8:31,32,34,35; Joshua 23:6; Judges 4:11; 1 Kings 2:3; 2 Kings 14:6; 2 Kings 23:25; 2 Chronicles 23:18; 2 Chronicles 30:16; Ezra 3:2; Ezra 7:6; Nehemiah 8:1; Daniel 9:11,13; Malachi 4:4

Law of the Covenant/Book of the Covenant- Exodus 34:27; Exodus 24:7; 2 Kings 23:21; 2 Kings 23:2,3,21

Book of the Law- Deut 29:27,29; Joshua 1:7-8; Deuteronomy 31:24,26; Deuteronomy 30:10; Joshua 23:6; Joshua 24:26; 2 Kings 14:6; 2 Chronicles 25:4; 2 Chronicles 17:9; Nehemiah 9:3; Nehemiah 8:1; Ezra 6:18; Nehemiah 13:1; 2 Kings 22:8-13 ; Psalm 40:7; 1 Samuel 10:25; Nehemiah 8:9; Joshua 8:31,31,34,35


The Moral law/ten commandments were written on stone by the finger of God(Deuteronomy 10:2-5;Exodus 25:16; Exodus 31:16-18; Exodus 34:1)


The Book of the Covenant(Exodus 34:27; Exodus 24:7; 2 Kings 23:21; 2 Kings 23:2) was only for a time, that is why God said there was going to be a new covenant(Jeremiah 31:31-34, Isaiah 28:10,13-19, Ezekiel 36:23-27,29-31). That is why the book of law, written by the hand of Moses(Exodus 34:27; Nehemiah 9:13,14) was not placed inside the ark of the Covenant with the ten commandments that were written in stone by the finger of God Twice (Deuteronomy 10:2-5;Exodus 25:16; Exodus 31:16-18; Exodus 34:1), but were instead placed by the side of the ark( Deut 31:26) signifying that the book of law(the book of the covenant) was only for a time.


Mosaic law written by the Hand of Moses was only for a time until Christ came.

Moral Law written by the Finger of God is eternal and kept since the beginning(Genesis 2:2-3) all the way into the new Heaven and the New earth(Isaiah 66:23).

It's evident you don't believe Jer 31:31-33.

 

[Saint Steven]

Is this a lie or truth -

True. As is this.
The Apostle was confronting the teachings of the Circumcision Group.
They were working in a divisive way to draw believers away.

Galatians 4:17
Those people are zealous to win you over,
but for no good. What they want is to alienate you from us,
so that you may have zeal for them.

 

[The Righterzpen]

Yes I'm really big into that myself. Early Church stuff AD 1-500 especially, and Judaica. Recently I got into Heiser and you might be interested in him too if you ever get the time, then you might consider checking out the two videos below. (The Gnostic one is long but worth it if you got the time!)

I'll defiantly check out your videos.

 

[ace of hearts]

Read the verse very carefully.
"...things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ." (NASB)
The word "estin" in the Greek is a present tense verb correctly translated as "are." Therefore "are" indicates they ARE a shadow of things to come which indicates that they are still in existence and continuing to be practiced by these believers. Paul did not write "things which WERE a shadow of things to come." Paul is not stating don't practice them. He is stating don't let anyone judge you - as you are practicing these things. Evidently, the Colossian believers distinguished between clean/unclean foods, observed the Jewish religious festivals, New Moons and kept the Jewish Sabbath. If this be true, the question is why don't believers do the same today?

So you believe the New Covenant is yet to come? If that's so the NT is a lie.

 

[ace of hearts]

Wiki
A straw man is a form of argument and an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting anargument that was not presented by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man."

Exactly!

 

[ace of hearts]

Not at all there is no truth in your claims or your post. None of the links you provide above support any of the claims you are making. Do you have any scritpures to share?

Just plain amazing. There's not truth means it's a lie to me. Your posting Rom 3:4 is very off topic and can't be about anything else except accusation. The cults are very good at this.

 

[ace of hearts]

Indeed there is no scripture for it though as the LORD'S DAY is the SABBATH day *MATTHEW 12:8

So you refuse to admit to reality.