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Look at this scripture please. Notice that the apostles didnt obey the law of the land. Which is right in God’s eyes: to listen to man, or to Him?

Acts 4:18 Then they called them in again and commanded them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. 19 But Peter and John replied, “Which is right in God’s eyes: to listen to you, or to him? You be the judges! 20 As for us, we cannot help speaking about what we have seen and heard.”
 
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There is never a bad reason for prayer. It fixes your head. Prayer stomps on your ego and forces you to put God's agenda in front of yours, and that's always the right move.

Let's take your imagined stand and lets say that government is evil. We mention that in court while defending our point. The 14 yo picks up on this. So....starting at age 14 the child assumes that government is evil and that it's rules are unjust. Guess what life this teen leads going forward assuming that government and rules are evil and unjust?

Brian 1:5 Thou shalt deny any unjust government, fight rules we don't like, and condemn the lifestyle of any discovered lesbians.

Do you imagine this girl in a pink dress on sitting in a pew on Sunday? I think not.

So between you and me, which of us has the girls future in mind?

What is 'legal' here on earth can send you to hell...
 
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I was persecuted for my beliefs in Jesus
Christ in Texas. I had a fifteen year old daughter who was living with her dad. He introduced her to a lesbian couple whom had money. My daughter saw what they had and wanted it. She called a woman at cps, who immediately believed the lies she told and called.me and said I needed to come in. I thought my daughter was going to live with me. When I met the cps worker she told me I had no rights to what my dsughter wanted to live. I signed a paper stating what she had said. The attorney I had told me I didn't have to write all of that down. Anyway, I was going to sign primary custody over to them. I went home and my television was.on, the first thing I heard was John Hagees voice preaching..." Homosexuality is an abomination to God!"
I knew God was talking to me. Later a minister said he didn't put his signature on a marriage certificate with out counseling the couple, because his signature went with that couple thru life. I knew then God did not want me to put my signature on the primary custody papers.

When I told the cps worker I could not sign papers all hell broke out. They immediately changed judges. The first judge was.in favor of me, so one of the lesbian woman's sister was a district attorney, I believe she.used her connections to move the case before another judge.
I had meetings with my daughter, where she would mirror me and falsely acclaimed I hit her with an extension cord. She never put that on the affadavit, so I knew they coached her to lie.
I wrote washington, I kept calling them, finally a lady called me and said she had pulled my case from 700 others, because of my constantly calling. She told me I in fact had a case, and what they where doing was.unethical. however Washington was out of the jurisdiction, so they would have to send the information back to TX.
Well, the lesbian's ended up getting my daughter and making her father pay child support. I relinquished her rights to me as her.mother.
After she went with them, my car was broken into. I received warrants for my arrest when i had never had tickets. She bragged about placing cameras in my house. There is do much more to this story.
Let's put it this way, there was gang stalking. And when Jesus said they will score you in the synagogues and deliver you to the council it's true. There is nothing more violent than being abused by the system that is suppose to protect the citizens of America. All in the.name of the lgbtq. Today the female I gave birth to is
On the committee for the aging lgbtq.
Blind leading the blind to hell.
Please pray for me because so much has happened to me and my three children because of thier harrasment.
I never thought authority could be so evil and cruel, but I've learned a terrible lesson.
Please pray for me and my three children. I want to forgive the female I gave birth to, but its hard. I want God to vendicate me against her and the government whom harrased me and my little ones.

I also lost all my children and wife to lies and they set me up to the point I could not prove my innocence, I lost my family and children and now live for God alone with nothing but what God blesses me with.

In the end of it, my advice is this.

Everything ends, as long as it ends with god, thats what matters.

God bless you.
 
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What is 'legal' here on earth can send you to hell...

Not if God says to submit to government, like Jesus did.
Ok...well, Jesus did go to hell I guess. But just for a short time.
 
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I'm baffled by your comment. Children just hate rules. My wife signed papers to give guardianship away at an even younger age when her daughter gave birth. There were a number of years where they didn't speak to each other but her daughter is now her firm closest friend. When our daughter's own children started rebelling, she returned back to mom for friendship.

And gay couples outnumber straight couples in adopting. There is no evidence that the children suffer from this. The courts keep the welfare of the child as the top priority, by law.

I am encouraging her to pray and submit to government authority. At your request, no more Romans.

1 Peter 2:13-17
Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God. Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor.

Titus 3:1
Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work,

1 Timothy 2:1-3
First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior,

Psalm 22:28
For kingship belongs to the Lord, and he rules over the nations.

Proverbs 21:1
The king's heart is a stream of water in the hand of the Lord; he turns it wherever he will.

John 19:11
Jesus answered him, “You would have no authority over me at all unless it had been given you from above.

Proverbs 8:15
By me kings reign, and rulers decree what is just;

I have ripped my garments and thrown ashes on my head at your view of what it right and wrong.
 
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I was persecuted for my beliefs in Jesus
Christ in Texas. I had a fifteen year old daughter who was living with her dad. He introduced her to a lesbian couple whom had money. My daughter saw what they had and wanted it. She called a woman at cps, who immediately believed the lies she told and called.me and said I needed to come in. I thought my daughter was going to live with me. When I met the cps worker she told me I had no rights to what my dsughter wanted to live. I signed a paper stating what she had said. The attorney I had told me I didn't have to write all of that down. Anyway, I was going to sign primary custody over to them. I went home and my television was.on, the first thing I heard was John Hagees voice preaching..." Homosexuality is an abomination to God!"
I knew God was talking to me. Later a minister said he didn't put his signature on a marriage certificate with out counseling the couple, because his signature went with that couple thru life. I knew then God did not want me to put my signature on the primary custody papers.

When I told the cps worker I could not sign papers all hell broke out. They immediately changed judges. The first judge was.in favor of me, so one of the lesbian woman's sister was a district attorney, I believe she.used her connections to move the case before another judge.
I had meetings with my daughter, where she would mirror me and falsely acclaimed I hit her with an extension cord. She never put that on the affadavit, so I knew they coached her to lie.
I wrote washington, I kept calling them, finally a lady called me and said she had pulled my case from 700 others, because of my constantly calling. She told me I in fact had a case, and what they where doing was.unethical. however Washington was out of the jurisdiction, so they would have to send the information back to TX.
Well, the lesbian's ended up getting my daughter and making her father pay child support. I relinquished her rights to me as her.mother.
After she went with them, my car was broken into. I received warrants for my arrest when i had never had tickets. She bragged about placing cameras in my house. There is do much more to this story.
Let's put it this way, there was gang stalking. And when Jesus said they will score you in the synagogues and deliver you to the council it's true. There is nothing more violent than being abused by the system that is suppose to protect the citizens of America. All in the.name of the lgbtq. Today the female I gave birth to is
On the committee for the aging lgbtq.
Blind leading the blind to hell.
Please pray for me because so much has happened to me and my three children because of thier harrasment.
I never thought authority could be so evil and cruel, but I've learned a terrible lesson.
Please pray for me and my three children. I want to forgive the female I gave birth to, but its hard. I want God to vendicate me against her and the government whom harrased me and my little ones.
First, John Hagee was correct. The Bible does condemn homosexualism's desires that are accepted and acted on.

Second, why was your daughter living with your husband, not with you, in the first place? Did he have custody?

Third, those people's sinful actions toward you are despicable. If they don't receive earthly justice, they will be called to account when Jesus returns and the day of judgment comes. That's future hope is a big comfort to me about other people's sins against me that I can't do anything about.
 
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You seem to be fighting against God on multiple fronts:

Romans 13:1-7
For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.

So your story shows you rebelling against government especially regarding sexual orientation.
So there is no such thing as illegitimate authority? If they are a terror to good works and rewarders of evil works they are God ordained?

You don't realize the obvious? That when Revelation called out Satan as behind the Roman Empire the Bible meant that? Scary thing is. Many a believer has withdrawn from their duties to work with God to bring about legitimate human government that is just and rewards the good and punishes the evil.
 
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Look at this scripture please. Notice that the apostles didnt obey the law of the land. Which is right in God’s eyes: to listen to man, or to Him?

Acts 4:18 Then they called them in again and commanded them not to speak or teach at all in the name of Jesus. 19 But Peter and John replied, “Which is right in God’s eyes: to listen to you, or to him? You be the judges! 20 As for us, we cannot help speaking about what we have seen and heard.”
Acts covers things that were done in history. Yes, they were wrong.
All the apostles died defending Christ. No one has indicated since that time that we should follow their lead and die opposing the local laws.

Oh people do play that they have permission to die for Christ. But you don't hear any cheers when people do. It's wrong to ignore local law. We all know that.
 
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So there is no such thing as illegitimate authority? If they are a terror to good works and rewarders of evil works they are God ordained?

You don't realize the obvious? That when Revelation called out Satan as behind the Roman Empire the Bible meant that? Scary thing is. Many a believer has withdrawn from their duties to work with God to bring about legitimate human government that is just and rewards the good and punishes the evil.
The Crucifiction is your example and model to follow.
 
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Acts covers things that were done in history. Yes, they were wrong.
All the apostles died defending Christ. No one has indicated since that time that we should follow their lead and die opposing the local laws.

Oh people do play that they have permission to die for Christ. But you don't hear any cheers when people do. It's wrong to ignore local law. We all know that.
So the apostles were wrong to preach the gospel?
 
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The Crucifiction is your example and model to follow.
Total falsehood. The wicked would love to have it so. Completely ignores the times and seasons fortold by Bible prophecy and the circumstances of those times and seasons that determined what was and was not the proper actions to take in service of the Government of God.
It’s all sacrifice. Whether dying on the cross or overcoming the influence of the wicked in the culture or nation. Or dying on the battlefield in service of the free world. But it is all designed in the long run to overcome evil and no longer allowing it to rule the world.
 
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I don't mean to poke anyone on Christmas. So first and foremost Merry Christmas!

Sometimes by looking at extremes we can examine our arguments. For instance should it be permissible for a Christian to sentence homosexuals to death in the countries that mandate it by their law? I think we can all agree that it wouldn't be the Christian thing to do, even if the government said it was O.K. We would instead look at what the gospel is preaching as a whole to determine if any one quote was being misinterpreted or taken in the wrong way. Christs kingdom is not of this world and we should strive to be his earthly representatives.
 
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I don't mean to poke anyone on Christmas. So first and foremost Merry Christmas!

Sometimes by looking at extremes we can examine our arguments. For instance should it be permissible for a Christian to sentence homosexuals to death in the countries that mandate it by their law? I think we can all agree that it wouldn't be the Christian thing to do, even if the government said it was O.K. We would instead look at what the gospel is preaching as a whole to determine if any one quote was being misinterpreted or taken in the wrong way. Christs kingdom is not of this world and we should strive to be his earthly representatives.
Our forefathers had it right. They understood the nature of homosexuality. They made it illegal. Not because they or anyone for that matter wants to know what is going on in someones bedroom. That is totally impractical in a free country. But because they understood its nature. They understood that if it was made legal, (defacto by our progressive dominated courts.) Not only does it by nature seek to become in everyone's face public. But it will actually seek to rule over us. As we now see.
 
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Acts covers things that were done in history. Yes, they were wrong.
All the apostles died defending Christ. No one has indicated since that time that we should follow their lead and die opposing the local laws.

Oh people do play that they have permission to die for Christ. But you don't hear any cheers when people do. It's wrong to ignore local law. We all know that.
If they pass a law that says i must worship a false God, im not obeying. You can though friend if thats your belief. Its sad that you dont love the words of the Lord and His apostles. You call it law and throw it out so you can observe mans law instead. You are deceived my friend. I pray for you.
 
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I was persecuted for my beliefs in Jesus
Christ in Texas. I had a fifteen year old daughter who was living with her dad. He introduced her to a lesbian couple whom had money. My daughter saw what they had and wanted it. She called a woman at cps, who immediately believed the lies she told and called.me and said I needed to come in. I thought my daughter was going to live with me. When I met the cps worker she told me I had no rights to what my dsughter wanted to live. I signed a paper stating what she had said. The attorney I had told me I didn't have to write all of that down. Anyway, I was going to sign primary custody over to them. I went home and my television was.on, the first thing I heard was John Hagees voice preaching..." Homosexuality is an abomination to God!"
I knew God was talking to me. Later a minister said he didn't put his signature on a marriage certificate with out counseling the couple, because his signature went with that couple thru life. I knew then God did not want me to put my signature on the primary custody papers.

When I told the cps worker I could not sign papers all hell broke out. They immediately changed judges. The first judge was.in favor of me, so one of the lesbian woman's sister was a district attorney, I believe she.used her connections to move the case before another judge.
I had meetings with my daughter, where she would mirror me and falsely acclaimed I hit her with an extension cord. She never put that on the affadavit, so I knew they coached her to lie.
I wrote washington, I kept calling them, finally a lady called me and said she had pulled my case from 700 others, because of my constantly calling. She told me I in fact had a case, and what they where doing was.unethical. however Washington was out of the jurisdiction, so they would have to send the information back to TX.
Well, the lesbian's ended up getting my daughter and making her father pay child support. I relinquished her rights to me as her.mother.
After she went with them, my car was broken into. I received warrants for my arrest when i had never had tickets. She bragged about placing cameras in my house. There is do much more to this story.
Let's put it this way, there was gang stalking. And when Jesus said they will score you in the synagogues and deliver you to the council it's true. There is nothing more violent than being abused by the system that is suppose to protect the citizens of America. All in the.name of the lgbtq. Today the female I gave birth to is
On the committee for the aging lgbtq.
Blind leading the blind to hell.
Please pray for me because so much has happened to me and my three children because of thier harrasment.
I never thought authority could be so evil and cruel, but I've learned a terrible lesson.
Please pray for me and my three children. I want to forgive the female I gave birth to, but its hard. I want God to vendicate me against her and the government whom harrased me and my little ones.

I am sorry about your daughter and the harassment that you have been through. You are not alone in your suffering my friend I'll just say that. The persecution is real but we must remain strong and endure until the end. We cannot make other people's choices for them. Your daughter made her choice and you tried to prevent her but it didn't work. You can only do what you can.
 
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I was persecuted for my beliefs in Jesus
Christ in Texas. I had a fifteen year old daughter who was living with her dad. He introduced her to a lesbian couple whom had money. My daughter saw what they had and wanted it. She called a woman at cps, who immediately believed the lies she told and called.me and said I needed to come in. I thought my daughter was going to live with me. When I met the cps worker she told me I had no rights to what my dsughter wanted to live. I signed a paper stating what she had said. The attorney I had told me I didn't have to write all of that down. Anyway, I was going to sign primary custody over to them. I went home and my television was.on, the first thing I heard was John Hagees voice preaching..." Homosexuality is an abomination to God!"
I knew God was talking to me. Later a minister said he didn't put his signature on a marriage certificate with out counseling the couple, because his signature went with that couple thru life. I knew then God did not want me to put my signature on the primary custody papers.

When I told the cps worker I could not sign papers all hell broke out. They immediately changed judges. The first judge was.in favor of me, so one of the lesbian woman's sister was a district attorney, I believe she.used her connections to move the case before another judge.
I had meetings with my daughter, where she would mirror me and falsely acclaimed I hit her with an extension cord. She never put that on the affadavit, so I knew they coached her to lie.
I wrote washington, I kept calling them, finally a lady called me and said she had pulled my case from 700 others, because of my constantly calling. She told me I in fact had a case, and what they where doing was.unethical. however Washington was out of the jurisdiction, so they would have to send the information back to TX.
Well, the lesbian's ended up getting my daughter and making her father pay child support. I relinquished her rights to me as her.mother.
After she went with them, my car was broken into. I received warrants for my arrest when i had never had tickets. She bragged about placing cameras in my house. There is do much more to this story.
Let's put it this way, there was gang stalking. And when Jesus said they will score you in the synagogues and deliver you to the council it's true. There is nothing more violent than being abused by the system that is suppose to protect the citizens of America. All in the.name of the lgbtq. Today the female I gave birth to is
On the committee for the aging lgbtq.
Blind leading the blind to hell.
Please pray for me because so much has happened to me and my three children because of thier harrasment.
I never thought authority could be so evil and cruel, but I've learned a terrible lesson.
Please pray for me and my three children. I want to forgive the female I gave birth to, but its hard. I want God to vendicate me against her and the government whom harrased me and my little ones.
I would like to help you, but I have no idea of what you are trying to say in this post.

It's really unclear what is going on with your daughter. Could you speak more precisely or directly?
 
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Angelstar seems to have lost interest in this thread, or maybe her situation is resolved, I really hope so.

I would say to anyone who is in a situation of grown up kids and teens that rebel and reject to look to the father in the parable of the prodigal son Luke 15 v 11-32. When the son declared he wanted his inheritance early the father said yes. He didn't have to and even if there were some legal obligation in that situation, he didn't even consult his lawyer, he just said yes.

Sometimes we have to let go and let our kids make damn fool mistakes but never, never cut them off. Many reading this will have kids battling addictions, involved in sects, unsuitable partners and even part of the 'gay scene.' Satan tells us to cut them them a d their disgusting habits off, have nothing more to do with them or worse still, go to battle with them, through the courts, on social media. All that will do is alienate you kids against you, cause division within the family; all meat and honey for Satan.

No, be there waiting for your 'Llittle one' to return. Meanwhile pray, tell them you love them, tell them you're praying for them, respect their choices, they're adult but maybe question the wisdom and reassure them that you are there for them, and keep praying.

I think sometimes we look for persecution when there is none.
 
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I thought that was true as well. I was wrong.


Hebrews 8:13
13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Again, I have no say in what was recorded.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 does not agree with you. Hebrews 8:13 was not in reference to all moral laws even mentioned in the New Covenant. It is in reference to the Old Covenant. Hebrews 8:13 is like a Bible commentary on the words of Jesus Christ at the Lord's supper. It was a commentary on the words "New Covenant" or "New Testament." The author of Hebrews was explaining what the two words of Jesus meant at the Lord's supper. So the old was passing away when Jesus was going to the cross and not after the cross. We can see that Jesus's followers uphold the same commands and laws that Jesus did. Read to the end of Revelation and you will see this:

14 "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie." (Revelation 22:14-15).

Also, Jesus said narrow is the way that leads unto life and FEW be there that finds it. I am sorry to inform you but your idea of justifying sin with the thinking you are saved is the majority view within the churches and it is not the minority view.

Jesus said to certain believers who did wonderful works in his name to depart from Him because they also worked iniquity or sin, too (See Matthew 7:22-23).
 
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Oh, I was forgiven my sins decades ago on 1003 w. Atkinson Street.
You need to get out more. How long have you been in the house today?

Does this include future sin?
Most in your camp believe that future sin is forgiven them but nowhere does the Bible teach such a thing.
 
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