Persecuted in America

[SkyWriting]

None is justified by obeying the law, but it doesn't mean the law of God is obsolete.

I thought that was true as well. I was wrong.


Hebrews 8:13
13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Again, I have no say in what was recorded.

 

[Call me Nic]

Hebrews 8:13
13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Again, I have no say in what was recorded.

Again, it was the old covenant that passed away, not the validity of the law. There's a difference. Understand that.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Hebrews 8:13
13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Again, I have no say in what was recorded.

A few months ago, maybe longer, you chose not to obey what is recorded.
Choosing to obey Yahweh and His commandments if you love Him,
is not obsolete.

 

[SkyWriting]

Again, it was the old covenant that passed away, not the validity of the law. There's a difference. Understand that.

I thought that was true as well. I was wrong.

 

[SkyWriting]

A few months ago, maybe longer, you chose not to obey what is recorded.
Choosing to obey Yahweh and His commandments if you love Him,
is not obsolete.

What is in law in writing is death. I didn't invent the word obsolete.

Hebrews 8:7-8
For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second. For he finds fault with them when he says: “Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah,

Hebrews 8:6
But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry that is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises.

2 Corinthians 3:6
Who has made us competent to be ministers of a new covenant,
not of the letter but of the Spirit.
For the letter kills,
but the Spirit gives life.

The law you cling to kills.

 

[devin553344]

I was persecuted for my beliefs in Jesus
Christ in Texas. I had a fifteen year old daughter who was living with her dad. He introduced her to a lesbian couple whom had money. My daughter saw what they had and wanted it. She called a woman at cps, who immediately believed the lies she told and called.me and said I needed to come in. I thought my daughter was going to live with me. When I met the cps worker she told me I had no rights to what my dsughter wanted to live. I signed a paper stating what she had said. The attorney I had told me I didn't have to write all of that down. Anyway, I was going to sign primary custody over to them. I went home and my television was.on, the first thing I heard was John Hagees voice preaching..." Homosexuality is an abomination to God!"
I knew God was talking to me. Later a minister said he didn't put his signature on a marriage certificate with out counseling the couple, because his signature went with that couple thru life. I knew then God did not want me to put my signature on the primary custody papers.

When I told the cps worker I could not sign papers all hell broke out. They immediately changed judges. The first judge was.in favor of me, so one of the lesbian woman's sister was a district attorney, I believe she.used her connections to move the case before another judge.
I had meetings with my daughter, where she would mirror me and falsely acclaimed I hit her with an extension cord. She never put that on the affadavit, so I knew they coached her to lie.
I wrote washington, I kept calling them, finally a lady called me and said she had pulled my case from 700 others, because of my constantly calling. She told me I in fact had a case, and what they where doing was.unethical. however Washington was out of the jurisdiction, so they would have to send the information back to TX.
Well, the lesbian's ended up getting my daughter and making her father pay child support. I relinquished her rights to me as her.mother.
After she went with them, my car was broken into. I received warrants for my arrest when i had never had tickets. She bragged about placing cameras in my house. There is do much more to this story.
Let's put it this way, there was gang stalking. And when Jesus said they will score you in the synagogues and deliver you to the council it's true. There is nothing more violent than being abused by the system that is suppose to protect the citizens of America. All in the.name of the lgbtq. Today the female I gave birth to is
On the committee for the aging lgbtq.
Blind leading the blind to hell.
Please pray for me because so much has happened to me and my three children because of thier harrasment.
I never thought authority could be so evil and cruel, but I've learned a terrible lesson.
Please pray for me and my three children. I want to forgive the female I gave birth to, but its hard. I want God to vendicate me against her and the government whom harrased me and my little ones.

Sorry that happened to you. It must really hurt. I will pray for you. God bless.

 

[Call me Nic]

I thought that was true as well. I was wrong.

Jesus LITERALLY SAID IT. Matthew 5:18. You cannot deny that what Jesus said is true. I'm not saying we have to live by the law in order to be justified, because we are saved by grace through faith. However, the validity, the truth and underlying righteousness of God's law is forever. Period. It doesn't matter what you say, it doesn't matter what I say, it only matters what God himself says, and he himself says that it is. End of story.

 

[SkyWriting]

Jesus LITERALLY SAID IT. Matthew 5:18. You cannot deny that what Jesus said is true. I'm not saying we have to live by the law in order to be justified, because we are saved by grace through faith. However, the validity, the truth and underlying righteousness of God's law is forever. Period. It doesn't matter what you say, it doesn't matter what I say, it only matters what God himself says, and he himself says that it is. End of story.

Jesus also said that instead of blood, He was all wine instead.

2 Corinthians 3:6
Who has made us competent to be ministers of a new covenant,
not of the letter but of the Spirit.
For the letter kills,
but the Spirit gives life.

The law you cling to kills.

Is obsolete,
has been replaced
is faded away.

G-Bye ol covenant.

Do not obey God's law, follow the governments law instead now.
What Does the Bible Say About Government And New Covenant?

 

[Call me Nic]

2 Corinthians 3:6
Who has made us competent to be ministers of a new covenant,
not of the letter but of the Spirit.
For the letter kills,
but the Spirit gives life.

The law you cling to kills.

You are impossible, friend. Either you are not taking the time to read my posts as they are clearly written, or you are arguing an absolutely awful straw-man. Let me say this, once again for the 4th time or so, I. do. not. under. any. circumstances. believe. a. person. has. to. follow. the. law. to. be. saved. Therefore, I do not personally, neither do I preach to any others, that they "cling to the law" to be saved.

However, God's law is righteous, and holy, and perfect. And we know the judgements of God, that they are perfect, and we find such judgements in the law. Therefore, when God says that sodomy is a sin worthy of death, it is a sin worthy of death. You cannot say that God's judgement is wrong. Because you would be calling God a liar.

 

[SkyWriting]

You are impossible, friend. Either you are not taking the time to read my posts as they are clearly written, or you are arguing an absolutely awful straw-man. Let me say this, once again for the 4th time or so, I. do. not. under. any. circumstances. believe. a. person. has. to. follow. the. law. to. be. saved. Therefore, I do not personally, neither do I preach to any others, that they "cling to the law" to be saved.

However, God's law is righteous, and holy, and perfect. And we know the judgements of God, that they are perfect, and we find such judgements in the law. Therefore, when God says that sodomy is a sin worthy of death, it is a sin worthy of death. You cannot say that God's judgement is wrong. Because you would be calling God a liar.

You must follow the government's law now becasue God has put all governments in place.
I understand you've been brainwashed to not believe what is written.
I didn't want to read it either.
God institutes all government.
Same sex marriage is legal in my country. God has instituted it.
I'm not saying that orgies are ok. What you call "sodomy" was orgies and such behavior. Not sexual orientation.

 

[Call me Nic]

You must follow the government's law now becasue God has put all governments in place.
I understand you've been brainwashed to not believe what is written.
I didn't want to read it either.
God institutes all government.
Same sex marriage is legal in my country. God has instituted it.
I'm not saying that orgies are ok. What you call "sodomy" was orgies and such behavior. Not sexual orientation.

Okay, you go on believing that just because a worldly, God-hating, evolution-teaching, money-grubbing, war-mongering, secretive government institutes a law, that it is righteous and super-cedes the Bible. See you on judgement day.

 

[Call me Nic]

You must follow the government's law now becasue God has put all governments in place.
I understand you've been brainwashed to not believe what is written.
I didn't want to read it either.
God institutes all government.
Same sex marriage is legal in my country. God has instituted it.
I'm not saying that orgies are ok. What you call "sodomy" was orgies and such behavior. Not sexual orientation.

And by the way, I'm not preaching against following the law of a government and being a law-abiding citizen, but laws that legalize certain lifestyles doesn't make those lifestyles righteous or "okay" in the eyes of God, or according to his law. And it doesn't mean that we have to support it either.

Because there is a difference between sinning by resisting the laws of a government, and having an opinion about the rulings of such a government. A vast difference. It is the foundational principle of Republicanism, sir.

 

[W2L]

Sorry. I think the german language scriptures read the same.
I could check for you.

Did Rahab the prostitute obey the law of the land?

 

[W2L]

You must follow the government's law now becasue God has put all governments in place.
I understand you've been brainwashed to not believe what is written.
I didn't want to read it either.
God institutes all government.
Same sex marriage is legal in my country. God has instituted it.
I'm not saying that orgies are ok. What you call "sodomy" was orgies and such behavior. Not sexual orientation.

Thats not true. When the law of the land conflicts with Gods law then mans law must be disobeyed. Give unto Cesar that which is his, and unto God that which belongs to Him.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I thought that was true as well. I was wrong.


Hebrews 8:13
13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Again, I have no say in what was recorded.

When anyone is persecuted for sinning, they have nothing to say about it.

God's Government overrides man's in Judgment. God's is True, man's is not always true.

So if man's government protects sinners, it will not save the sinners from damnation. Only if they repent of their perversion, of disobeying God's Law, which is never obsolete... might they be saved.

 

[Not David]

I love arguing about Christian morality but I don't think this is the best place

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Scripture says anywhere there is wickedness, expose it. Hopefully to bring about repentance
so then walking in truth, persecution is for something good as God's Word Says,
and not for allowing immorality. If a Christian does wrong and suffers for it, it is not in their favor; but when Christians suffer for doing what is right, God states in His Word the reward they may receive - it is good.

 

[SkyWriting]

When anyone is persecuted for sinning, they have nothing to say about it.

God's Government overrides man's in Judgment. God's is True, man's is not always true.

So if man's government protects sinners, it will not save the sinners from damnation. Only if they repent of their perversion, of disobeying God's Law, which is never obsolete... might they be saved.

Perversion is a word you made up to suit you and your hatred.

When you begin to treat others exactly as you would like
to be treated by them, you'll stop looking in their pants
and deciding what to do with what.

Till then your stuck on the superiority treadmill. I was there.
It can take years to get off.

 

[SkyWriting]

Okay, you go on believing that just because a worldly, God-hating, evolution-teaching, money-grubbing, war-mongering, secretive government institutes a law, that it is righteous and super-cedes the Bible. See you on judgement day.

Well...no. The Bible says local government takes priority over scripture so I am holding to scripture first and forum posters second.

2 Corinthians 3:6
Who has made us competent to be ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Hebrews 7:22
This makes Jesus the guarantor of a better covenant.

Therefore one must be in subjection to local government, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.

Romans 13:1-7
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.

1 Peter 2:13-17
Titus 3:1
1 Timothy 2:1-3
Psalm 22:28
Daniel 2:20-21
Deuteronomy 16:18-20
Proverbs 21:1
Luke 20:25
John 19:11
Mark 3:24
Proverbs 8:15

Do not obey God's law, follow the governments law instead now.

 

[SkyWriting]

Did Rahab the prostitute obey the law of the land?

Only God can judge.