Canadian SC: Christian law school can't forbid students from gay sex

[Hieronymus]

Beware of the No True Scotsman fallacy when discussing the sins and hypocrisy of some Christians because we will always hear, "They aren't 'real Christians'!" It's a very convenient cop-out.

"You will know them by their fruits" has nothing to do with Scotsmen or any ethnic group.
They have to do with the fruits of the Faith.
I'm not saying no Christian ever sins, of course.

Actually, your comment is just another a cheap shot at Christians and what it means to be one.

 

[Sparagmos]

Said no one ever.



When do people teach churches?



Said me. Please be aware I do not self-identify as a fascist homosexual.



Neither will angry new users with 1 post.

Bob’s made just a couple of posts but he’s already made it clear he doesn’t like black people or gay people.

 

[Sparagmos]

Obviously you don't have to be gay to be an advocate for that stuff but generally people talk about what is of personal interest to them. In this case we have an atheist on a christian forum,self described in a ''legal union'' which is a fair chance of homosexual couple. Not rocket science to work these little things out.

Even if he's not gay atheists still got no business meddling with the church.

You’re talking about it.

 

[Sparagmos]

Since most estimates put the numbers of gays at 10% or less of the population, I think the extramarital sex prohibition would have the much greater impact.

So why is this only about the gay side of it?

I’m guessing because sexual orientation is a protected class under the law, and so that is what Canada took issue with.

 

[Sparagmos]

Said every fascist homosexual, that they have a right to dictate what people do or allow on their own property.



You believe you have the right to demand that a private school be forced to accept students who refuse to to follow the school's standards of conduct and who also reject the school's beliefs (never mind the perversion you demand). That's the definition of fascism.

"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination... I detest them." - God (Lev 20). I think God hates fascists, too.

That is SO not the definition of fascism. Religion isn’t an excuse to break the law. Discrimination is against the law.

 

[Dave-W]

Just go with the flow.

No - I am saying we need to crack down on hetero extramarital sex. HARD.

 

[Dave-W]

I didn't read the opinion, but I suspect because of the double standard. It's fine for somebody who was straight and married to have sex,

It was not about hetero married sex. It banned hetero extramarital sex. That will affect about 10 times more people that a ban on gay sex.

 

[Dave-W]

Probably because it is an abomination to God.

So is hetero unmarried sex.

 

[Hieronymus]

Bob’s made just a couple of posts but he’s already made it clear he doesn’t like black people or gay people.

That's not what he said.
Besides, he comes across as not liking all kinds of people.
Or at least what they do or stand for.

 

[Hieronymus]

So is hetero unmarried sex.

Why is it called sodomy?

 

[Dave-W]

Why is it called sodomy?

It isn't.

Sodomy (as an action) is not a biblical term.

There is a biblical term refering to people: sodomites. But what makes them that is not clear.

So various groups have defined what they think "sodomy" actually is. And the definitions are all over the place.

 

[Kenny'sID]

"They aren't 'real Christians'!" It's a very convenient cop-out.

Seriously? You honestly believe that everyone who calls themselves Christian, are that? Surely you've seen fakes first hand?

We don't claim it out of convenience, we do it because it's an absolute fact. People delude themselves all the time so they can have it both ways. These days many preachers actually teach the delusions.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Christians don't side with fascist homosexuals and Nazi brownshirts.

This statement would appear to be ludicrously wrong. Both historically and in current alt-reich politics.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Sodomy (as an action) is not a biblical term.

I was sure it was an action named after the city of Sodom and the thing that happened in the section of scripture where Sodom was destroyed.

There is a biblical term refering to people: sodomites. But what makes them that is not clear.

Also seems pretty clear the reason Sodom was destroyed was due to Homosexuality, the sin that happe3ned just prior to the angles announcing they were going to destroy.

As far as it not being clear, it's very clear to me but homosexuals and others will often try to confuse the obvious in Genesis 19:1 thru 14 in order to push the claim, Homosexuality is not a sin. Far from the first time someone tried to confuse the bible for their own selfish purposes.

 

[Dave-W]

lso seems pretty clear the reason Sodom was destroyed was due to Homosexuality,

Ezekiel 16:49
Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had arrogance, abundant food and careless ease, but she did not help the poor and needy.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Ezekiel 16:49
Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had arrogance, abundant food and careless ease, but she did not help the poor and needy.

What did that have to do with my post? Sodom was first the innocent name of a city and Cities are often named after people. Or did you have something else in mind?

 

[Dave-W]

What did that have to do with my post? S

You said Sodom was destroyed due to homosexuality. But that is never actually stated in scripture. Here is what was told to Abraham:

Gen 18:20 And the Lord said, “The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave. 21 I will go down now, and see if they have done entirely according to its outcry, which has come to Me; and if not, I will know.”

That chapter in Ezekiel is the only place that says what that "exceedingly grave" sin was.

 

[Kenny'sID]

You said Sodom was destroyed due to homosexuality. But that is never actually stated in scripture. Here is what was told to Abraham:

Just read the scripture I posted. Unless one doesn't want to see it, it can't be missed.

 

[Dave-W]

Just read the scripture I posted. Unless one doesn't want to see it, it can't be missed.

Oh I am not missing anything from that passage; except the statement that THIS ACTION is the reason we are destroying Sodom.

Yes what those men wanted to do was vile. But it was not just the sexual side of the matter.

They were not being hospitable to strangers, and they were seeking to violate Lot's protection over them. Those 2 issues tie into the Ezekiel passage. And it stands in sharp contrast to how Abraham received them only 24 hours earlier.

I know you want it to be ONLY about homosexuality, but it is not as simple as that. God takes inhospitality very seriously.

 

[Shiloh Raven]

Ezekiel 16:49
Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had arrogance, abundant food and careless ease, but she did not help the poor and needy.

You said Sodom was destroyed due to homosexuality. But that is never actually stated in scripture. Here is what was told to Abraham:

Gen 18:20 And the Lord said, “The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave. 21 I will go down now, and see if they have done entirely according to its outcry, which has come to Me; and if not, I will know.”

That chapter in Ezekiel is the only place that says what that "exceedingly grave" sin was.

Oh I am not missing anything from that passage; except the statement that THIS ACTION is the reason we are destroying Sodom.

Yes what those men wanted to do was vile. But it was not just the sexual side of the matter.

They were not being hospitable to strangers, and they were seeking to violate Lot's protection over them. Those 2 issues tie into the Ezekiel passage. And it stands in sharp contrast to how Abraham received them only 24 hours earlier.

I know you want it to be ONLY about homosexuality, but it is not as simple as that. God takes inhospitality very seriously.

Thank you for dispelling the myth that Sodom was solely destroyed because of homosexuality.